MBB: Landmark Conference

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · March 03, 2011, 10:29:05 AM

Lusty - one more time... look at La Roche... look at their regional record... then look at their OWP, OOWP, SOS, etc. You will notice that with poor numbers there... they are still #1 in the region ahead of SMC with stronger numbers but a worse regional record. Thus... if F&M had won those games and improved their regional record... then it is very safe to say they would have finished higher then #5... possibly ahead of Cabrini and then possibly hosting.

It is not something of a reach... La Roche certainly has a better regionally ranked record... but everything else is about equal. So I am not reaching that those losses hurt F&M - we say it all the time around D3... games count from the beginning of the season until the end. No game, especially in-region, is unimportant. Just one game can make a huge difference when it comes to NCAA selections. This is a good example of that.

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 03, 2011, 10:31:58 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 03, 2011, 10:29:05 AM
Lusty - one more time... look at La Roche... look at their regional record... then look at their OWP, OOWP, SOS, etc. You will notice that with poor numbers there... they are still #1 in the region ahead of SMC with stronger numbers but a worse regional record. Thus... if F&M had won those games and improved their regional record... then it is very safe to say they would have finished higher then #5... possibly ahead of Cabrini and then possibly hosting.

It is not something of a reach... La Roche certainly has a better regionally ranked record... but everything else is about equal. So I am not reaching that those losses hurt F&M - we say it all the time around D3... games count from the beginning of the season until the end. No game, especially in-region, is unimportant. Just one game can make a huge difference when it comes to NCAA selections. This is a good example of that.

i've looked at LaRoche, they are 4-2 vs RRT, Cabrini was 5-0. GMC was 2-4. its impossible to know how that piece of criteria came into play

ronk · March 03, 2011, 10:42:25 AM

Nepa,
Nothing on Becker from their league's message board; only a human interest story on their big man who showed up from S. MD to play football(Around the nation-2/23). Like Larry says: poor foul shooting, good 3-pt shooting, 10 steals/g). Just going to enjoy the video for the over-achieving Royals; not expecting too much with the loss of Tommy Morgan.

cold_case · March 03, 2011, 11:58:26 AM

Quote from: ronk on March 03, 2011, 10:42:25 AM
Nepa,
Nothing on Becker from their league's message board; only a human interest story on their big man who showed up from S. MD to play football(Around the nation-2/23). Like Larry says: poor foul shooting, good 3-pt shooting, 10 steals/g). Just going to enjoy the video for the over-achieving Royals; not expecting too much with the loss of Tommy Morgan.

Morgan will be your crutch should Scranton fall? Give me a break.

NEPAFAN · March 03, 2011, 12:05:13 PM

Quote from: cold_case on March 03, 2011, 11:58:26 AM
Quote from: ronk on March 03, 2011, 10:42:25 AM
Nepa,
Nothing on Becker from their league's message board; only a human interest story on their big man who showed up from S. MD to play football(Around the nation-2/23). Like Larry says: poor foul shooting, good 3-pt shooting, 10 steals/g). Just going to enjoy the video for the over-achieving Royals; not expecting too much with the loss of Tommy Morgan.

Morgan will be your crutch should Scranton fall? Give me a break.

Why not? If Becker can claim DJ Ezzum as their crutch?

Matt Letourneau · March 03, 2011, 12:06:45 PM

Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 03, 2011, 09:52:24 AM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 02, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
Anybody have thoughts on how the Royals match up with Becker?

my stats are showing Becker likes to play an up-tempo game to mask a weak offense compared to other tournament teams. They are abysmal from the foul line. Their strength however is their defensive prowess (as discussed earlier on this board). Scranton would be wise to create a chippy game and not get lured into a running game (unless it has the athletes to do so). How is scrantons depth, is it enough to generate lots of fouls?

Uhhh...depth is not really their strong suit.

ronk · March 03, 2011, 12:14:32 PM

Having seen their tourney games when Zach was frosh and soph; I'll amend it to not expecting much w/wo Tommy Morgan; the present Royals don't have as much as either team that lost in the 1st round.

gordonmann · March 03, 2011, 12:17:46 PM

Incidentally DJ Ezzum would be a fantastic name for a guy spinning electronic records at a dance club.

Matt Letourneau · March 03, 2011, 12:27:50 PM

By the way, the Cardinals get a rematch with DeSales (at Lebanon Valley) in what should be a good game in the ECAC semis. They beat Gallaudet last night 66-58. This was Gallaudet's best team in school history--the first to make it to any kind of postseason play.

ronk · March 03, 2011, 12:35:03 PM

Matt,
How r they doing that- the women have a pod this weekend at Leb Val?

NEPAFAN · March 03, 2011, 12:38:51 PM

Quote from: Matt Letourneau on March 03, 2011, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 03, 2011, 09:52:24 AM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 02, 2011, 08:57:38 PM
Anybody have thoughts on how the Royals match up with Becker?

my stats are showing Becker likes to play an up-tempo game to mask a weak offense compared to other tournament teams. They are abysmal from the foul line. Their strength however is their defensive prowess (as discussed earlier on this board). Scranton would be wise to create a chippy game and not get lured into a running game (unless it has the athletes to do so). How is scrantons depth, is it enough to generate lots of fouls?

Uhhh...depth is not really their strong suit.

Glass houses, Matt.

Pat Coleman · March 03, 2011, 12:39:04 PM

I know they did well in a weak conference this year but I think Gallaudet's team with Jeff Ploederl, Joey Kutcka, Mike Kent, etc., from the mid-90s was actually a better team than this one. 5-seed in the CAC and won a first-round game.

Plus their Iron Five team that is in their hall of fame and won the Mason-Dixon Conference in 1943 would probably be considered better as well.

Sorry for the lack of details. I can't find the 1997-98 Gallaudet media guide that I wrote in my files right now.

ronk · March 03, 2011, 12:41:59 PM

Gordo,
Which game(s) r u doing this weekend?

saratoga · March 03, 2011, 01:14:55 PM

Just deep enough to get by Catholic & into the tournament.
And...to have The Player of the Year (Landmark)
And...First Team Academic All-American
And...Josten's Finalist
And...to have denied Catholic even a single victory in 4 years
And...to have played in the NCAA tourney in 3 of the past 4 years (batteries & wins not included).
I've bet against them all year & I hope they keep proving me wrong.

Matt Letourneau · March 03, 2011, 01:36:57 PM

Quote from: ronk on March 03, 2011, 12:35:03 PM
Matt,
How r they doing that- the women have a pod this weekend at Leb Val?

The men's ECAC games are at 1 and 3 on Saturday, and the women's NCAA games are at 6 and 8 on Friday, and 7 pm on Saturday. The ECAC final will be on Sunday.

Busy weekend for the gym, but they've apparently scheduled around it.

NEPA--Catholic's problem is not lack of depth. They actually go pretty deep--in fact, it was one of the guys lower on the depth chart--like, way lower (Cody Otto)--that sparked their win last night.

Pat--amend my comments to say "most successful" then--best is subjective. Either way, this is still their first team to ever play in any kind of postseason tournament.