MBB: Landmark Conference

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · March 04, 2011, 10:13:11 AM

Larry - we don't need fodder... in fact it is more of a distraction for the show when we try and talk to coaches and get insight on what is going on around the country from their point of view.

NEPAFAN · March 04, 2011, 10:17:10 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 04, 2011, 10:13:11 AM
Larry - we don't need fodder... in fact it is more of a distraction for the show when we try and talk to coaches and get insight on what is going on around the country from their point of view.

Really then why is Pat on the board highlighting that part of the show? You guys are telling Lusty to give it a rest, but you respond to every post he makes.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · March 04, 2011, 10:23:05 AM

Actually - the reference wasn't to Lusty primarily... but to someone else... and we didn't talk about just that... there was how teams were selected this year over all and the tough decision that had to be made on the last team (that actually affects the South - primary question to that - the Midwest and the West regions)... we asked about moving pods around the best they could with limited flights to try and get a more national feel and hopefully allow some of the top teams to not see one another until later in the tournament (might have nothing to do with the MA)... we talked about the screw-up with RMC hosting or not hosting (affects the South Region and maybe a little of the MA, but no one here cares)... talked about the tournament expanding to 62 teams which will make the process even harder... etc.

It was a 32 minute interview... it as not all about you guys... and per asking other questions especially about the future... this is the FIRST time I have ever gotten a committee chair on the show twice in a season... so you take advantage of the situation and ask what you can.

But if anyone would like create their own show and try and do this... go ahead... you will find it isn't that easy to do - especially out of your own home. It' been 9 seasons and we are still trying to improve the show...

Pat Coleman · March 04, 2011, 10:23:13 AM

I pointed it out because Lusty Larry doesn't accept a word I say, so I wanted to point out that the people in charge were saying the same thing.

I am definitely done with it, hence my two move on posts this morning.

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 04, 2011, 10:24:38 AM

Quote from: NEPAFAN on March 04, 2011, 10:17:10 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 04, 2011, 10:13:11 AM
Larry - we don't need fodder... in fact it is more of a distraction for the show when we try and talk to coaches and get insight on what is going on around the country from their point of view.

Really then why is Pat on the board highlighting that part of the show? You guys are telling Lusty to give it a rest, but you respond to every post he makes.

NEPAfan, they also give me negative karma points on a daily basis, which makes me chuckle inside. That said, i think at times D-mac actually wants to have a basketball/bracket conversation, whereas pat simply wants to spout off and protect his narrative that the NCAA is always right, and he thinks his overly condescending attitude will drive me away (and thats why he responds to every post.

NEPAFAN · March 04, 2011, 10:27:48 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 04, 2011, 10:23:05 AM
Actually - the reference wasn't to Lusty primarily... but to someone else... and we didn't talk about just that... there was how teams were selected this year over all and the tough decision that had to be made on the last team (that actually affects the South - primary question to that - the Midwest and the West regions)... we asked about moving pods around the best they could with limited flights to try and get a more national feel and hopefully allow some of the top teams to not see one another until later in the tournament (might have nothing to do with the MA)... we talked about the screw-up with RMC hosting or not hosting (affects the South Region and maybe a little of the MA, but no one here cares)... talked about the tournament expanding to 62 teams which will make the process even harder... etc.

It was a 32 minute interview... it as not all about you guys... and per asking other questions especially about the future... this is the FIRST time I have ever gotten a committee chair on the show twice in a season... so you take advantage of the situation and ask what you can.

But if anyone would like create their own show and try and do this... go ahead... you will find it isn't that easy to do - especially out of your own home. It' been 9 seasons and we are still trying to improve the show...

Guys, the fodder comment was light hearted and tongue in check, no need to get defensive. I understand that you raised Saratoga's not Larry's point, but the point is it did provide fodder...

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 04, 2011, 10:39:04 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 04, 2011, 10:23:05 AM
we talked about the screw-up with RMC hosting or not hosting (affects the South Region and maybe a little of the MA, but no one here cares)... talked about the tournament expanding to 62 teams which will make the process even harder... etc.

i cared about the RMC thing, i like hearing what goes into the process. the 62 teams question though was a joke, had nothing to do with 2011 and a waste of five minutes. my only advice (and take it for what its worth, and watch nantz/kellog when they go after D1 guy in a few weeks) would be to ask more direct questions and let the guy choose to answer it or not. Questions like, why is eastern mennonite not in the tournament? Why is F&M going to VaWesleyan and not Cabrini? Did geo diversity trump seeding?

when you ask lots of softballs, you lead the listener to believe you are more interested in getting the interviewee on your show than actually getting information out of him. I'm not saying you asked lots of softballs (well pat did, not you per se), but there were few curve balls

ronk · March 04, 2011, 10:43:21 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 04, 2011, 10:23:05 AM
Actually - the reference wasn't to Lusty primarily... but to someone else... and we didn't talk about just that... there was how teams were selected this year over all and the tough decision that had to be made on the last team (that actually affects the South - primary question to that - the Midwest and the West regions)... we asked about moving pods around the best they could with limited flights to try and get a more national feel and hopefully allow some of the top teams to not see one another until later in the tournament (might have nothing to do with the MA)... we talked about the screw-up with RMC hosting or not hosting (affects the South Region and maybe a little of the MA, but no one here cares)... talked about the tournament expanding to 62 teams which will make the process even harder... etc.

Actually, I do care; it just happened to affect Randolph-Macon and a few others schools this time, but the lack of communication could have affected any of the dual-hosting capable schools; it's not that hindsight is 100%; I said somewhere that a good reason for the women to have their show 1st was because they had the primary option for the dual-hosting capable schools; I didn't dream that they wouldn't tell the opposite site that R-M women were no longer being considered to host. Same thing for the sectional next weekend.

Pat Coleman · March 04, 2011, 10:47:40 AM

Quote from: LustyLarryintheToilet on March 04, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 04, 2011, 10:23:05 AM
we talked about the screw-up with RMC hosting or not hosting (affects the South Region and maybe a little of the MA, but no one here cares)... talked about the tournament expanding to 62 teams which will make the process even harder... etc.

i cared about the RMC thing, i like hearing what goes into the process. the 62 teams question though was a joke, had nothing to do with 2011 and a waste of five minutes. my only advice (and take it for what its worth, and watch nantz/kellog when they go after D1 guy in a few weeks) would be to ask more direct questions and let the guy choose to answer it or not. Questions like, why is eastern mennonite not in the tournament? Why is F&M going to VaWesleyan and not Cabrini? Did geo diversity trump seeding?

I asked about 62 because I don't want this committee to wimp out on getting every tournament spot they are entitled to the way previous men's basketball committees did. We held at 48 for years longer than the 6.5 ratio said we needed to.

The D-I guys are paying a billion dollars to air the tournament and are entitled to a few more answers than we or you are. CBS has just a little more leverage over that tournament, wouldn't you say?

You can email Dave Martin those questions if you like.

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 04, 2011, 10:52:33 AM

pat a good journalist never admits defeat, no matter his resources. if your point is, if we asked him tough questions he wouldnt have come on at all then i'd have more respect for you guys saying not have him on at all.

also, whats his email address and i'd be glad to ask him myself?

Pat Coleman · March 04, 2011, 10:54:02 AM

Larry:

A good journalist can find his email.

NEPAFAN · March 04, 2011, 10:55:55 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
Larry:

A good journalist can find his email.

So much for being done~!

Pat Coleman · March 04, 2011, 11:00:29 AM

Touche. I'm just surprised a guy who works for CBS would need help finding someone's email.

LustyLarryintheToilet · March 04, 2011, 11:04:21 AM

its a 3 second yahoo search, i just figured you were offering

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · March 04, 2011, 11:06:30 AM

Lusty - there is actually a Hoopsville conversation on in the General Boards... take your criticism for how I do my show and how those my show conduct themselves over there... I am tired of you thinking you are better then anyone here especially when they disagree with you. So you if actually want to talk about Hoopsville... head there.

Lusty - if it was that easy to find an email - you wouldn't waste the time being a jerk here and questioning EVERYTHING Pat and I say and just do work yourself. Do you really think it is proper that Pat and I hand out email address for people on a whim. Do it yourself and stop wasting everyone's time.

Again... good luck to Scranton this weekend (since this is the Landmark board)... would love to see a surprise being a Landmark school... but it would really screw up my bracket! :-)