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NEPAFAN

#3555
March 20, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
If the Landmark is the middle of a road conference what is the CSAC? Rosemont and a couple of Bible Schools?
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

#3556
March 20, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
CSAC is not a strong conference... not going to do deny that... that is why I didn't have Cabrini too high in my ballot until I just didn't have enough reasons to not move them up (just like I didn't have enough reasons not to have F&M in my ballot).

Landmark from top to bottom is better than the CSAC... but the top of the CSAC in Cabrini... is better than the top of the Landmark in Scranton and others.
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fanuofs

#3557
March 20, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
Scranton nor the Landmark Conference get enough credit from that d3 wesbite ... Scranton beat Middlebury for Pete's sake (or should I save Dave's)... they beat Becker... But that was all luck... or them having a bad day, or whatever excuse Dave uses for however we beat whoever we beat.

Whatever - better to sneak in and "surprise" everyone with a win.  We're good at being the underdogs... and Scranton has a great group of students too!  All the luck to the seniors in their post college careers... and to the underclassman to "surprise" everyone again!!!

onetinsoldier

#3558
March 20, 2012, 01:20:21 PM
When ranking who had the most impressive tournament performances, Scranton is in the top three with MIT and UWW.  The champs had a great run where they beat the defending national champs and three top 6 teams (from the last reg season d3hoops rankings), two on a neutral court.  MIT won four games that included a road win over F&M.  Scranton did something no team has done in almost three years, beat Middlebury on their own home court. 

Cabrini also had a great tournament, and is likely the second best team in the country.  But lets not forget that of Cabrini's 5 wins, only one came against a team ranked in the top 30. 
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#3559
March 20, 2012, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: fanuofs on March 20, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
Scranton nor the Landmark Conference get enough credit from that d3 wesbite ... Scranton beat Middlebury for Pete's sake (or should I save Dave's)... they beat Becker... But that was all luck... or them having a bad day, or whatever excuse Dave uses for however we beat whoever we beat.

Whatever - better to sneak in and "surprise" everyone with a win.  We're good at being the underdogs... and Scranton has a great group of students too!  All the luck to the seniors in their post college careers... and to the underclassman to "surprise" everyone again!!!

So, my repeated comments that I was impressed with how Scranton beat Middlebury are just not read?
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cold_case

#3560
March 20, 2012, 01:30:18 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 20, 2012, 12:59:01 PM
CSAC is not a strong conference... not going to do deny that... that is why I didn't have Cabrini too high in my ballot until I just didn't have enough reasons to not move them up (just like I didn't have enough reasons not to have F&M in my ballot).

Landmark from top to bottom is better than the CSAC... but the top of the CSAC in Cabrini... is better than the top of the Landmark in Scranton and others.

Suppose the leagues future, Goucher or Catholic, were at the top end?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

#3561
March 20, 2012, 01:40:49 PM
Top of the conference? Same opinion.

Overall conference - still same opinion.
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Pat Coleman

#3562
March 20, 2012, 01:44:30 PM
Quote from: fanuofs on March 20, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
Scranton nor the Landmark Conference get enough credit from that d3 wesbite ... Scranton beat Middlebury for Pete's sake (or should I save Dave's)... they beat Becker... But that was all luck... or them having a bad day, or whatever excuse Dave uses for however we beat whoever we beat.

Whatever - better to sneak in and "surprise" everyone with a win.  We're good at being the underdogs... and Scranton has a great group of students too!  All the luck to the seniors in their post college careers... and to the underclassman to "surprise" everyone again!!!

Well, I think it's just important to remember that the entire season counts for part of the ranking as well, so there were seven non-NCAA Tournament losses. Without the win against Middlebury, I don't think Scranton would have made the ranking at all, because they would have beaten Messiah and Becker with no wins against ranked teams.

Quote from: onetinsoldier on March 20, 2012, 01:20:21 PM
But lets not forget that of Cabrini's 5 wins, only one came against a team ranked in the top 30. 

Ranked in the Top 30 when the tournament started. I'm sure that once IWU won at Hope (not to mention the next two games), the value of that win changes a bit, right? But Cabrini also only lost two games all season. And Cabrini won five tournament games, rather than two. That's plenty to account for the difference in ranking.
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cold_case

#3563
March 20, 2012, 01:48:26 PM
Strange. I lost two karma is the last 10 minutes. Hmmmm ...

BTW, it's OT but mark down the Orioles for 90+ wins this season

Pat Coleman

#3564
March 20, 2012, 01:50:36 PM
You lost one from me for continuing to beat the four-years-dead horse.

Are you counting spring training?
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cold_case

#3565
March 20, 2012, 01:53:21 PM
Not including spring training. Laugh now, see me at seasons end.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

#3566
March 20, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
FYI - my rule for the past two years is to not smite people... so you didn't lose karma from me. I will +1 when appropriate... but not the other way around - even if a comment is beyond the line for the rules of these boards.

And being that I cover the Orioles and have for 13+ years... not sure I can count on 90+ wins.
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NEPAFAN

#3567
March 20, 2012, 01:59:35 PM
Scranton better be ranked in the Top 25 pre-season next year. Ronk , C_C, and Saratoga have promised me an blue chip recruting class including two transfers from JUCO.  ;D
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cold_case

#3568
March 20, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 20, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
FYI - my rule for the past two years is to not smite people... so you didn't lose karma from me. I will +1 when appropriate... but not the other way around - even if a comment is beyond the line for the rules of these boards.

And being that I cover the Orioles and have for 13+ years... not sure I can count on 90+ wins.

If it were Goucher you would.... ;D

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

#3569
March 20, 2012, 02:00:59 PM
With the likes of Ross Danzig on that team as well... I like Scranton next year... though, let's wait until those others are actually in uniform! :)

Quote from: cold_case on March 20, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 20, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
FYI - my rule for the past two years is to not smite people... so you didn't lose karma from me. I will +1 when appropriate... but not the other way around - even if a comment is beyond the line for the rules of these boards.

And being that I cover the Orioles and have for 13+ years... not sure I can count on 90+ wins.

If it were Goucher you would.... ;D
Nope... being realistic is something others need to come to grips with... not me.
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