MBB: Landmark Conference

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

ronk - I don't think we got to secondary criteria because that MAY have swayed towards CUA since their game against Transylvania would have been included and then their overall record, etc. With not know the answer first-hand... I am pretty sure this was a primary criteria decision already mapped out.

[ronk]

ronk - I don't think we got to secondary criteria because that MAY have swayed towards CUA since their game against Transylvania would have been included and then their overall record, etc. With not know the answer first-hand... I am pretty sure this was a primary criteria decision already mapped out.

I was unclearly referencing the exchange between Charles and nescac1 with my secondary criteria comment.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

ROFL - terribly sorry - well done indeed.

[pg04]

Misunderestimate? Oh I'm way too late.

[NEPAFAN]

Misunderestimate? Oh I'm way too late.

[lefty2]

Misunderestimate? Oh I'm way too late.

I think Roger Clemens said that Andy Pettite must have 'misunderestimated'?

[ronk]

Dave,
  I read your comment on media timeouts on the Nescac board; what's the Landmark policy? Is it up to the individual schools?
If I remember right, CUA had them during the Landmark finals, but Goucher didn't during the final regular season game 1 week earlier.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Up to the schools at this point. Catholic actually used them all season - adding them after the Hoopsville Classic where we did use them as well. Stevenson, for example, has been using them all season, too.

Goucher has not been using them, nor do I see them adding them unless the conference decides it is something they want to add.

[gordonmann]

I don't think there are many paid media outlets in the NESCAC that could make use of the media timeouts. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any commercial stations -- and not many student radio stations -- that cover the games. It's mostly student-staffed, department-directed video.  That doesn't mean they won't use them at some point, but it won't be to make money.

On a different note, congrats to Catholic on a great season. Kearney was a total stud with some of the best footwork I've seen for a Division III big man. It sucks that his season ended that way.  He handled it really, really well in the postgame, too.

Williams coach Maker called Bryson Fonville "one of the smartest point guards we've seen here in five years."  He's a nasty ball handler.  He reminds me a little of Corey Lemons at Cabrini, which is a nice comparison considering how his career went.

[nescac1]

Fonville is going to be a great one for Catholic.  I was impressed with how well Catholic hung in despite the misfortune with two key players out late in the game.  They could have packed it in, but instead gave the Ephs all they could handle.  The frosh twins are small and still learning how to find their offense, but they are very tough and quick, those two plus Fonville will give opposing teams fits for the next three years.  Fonville had two amazing plays, one I did not get to see (an around the back pass to Kearney for a monster jam) the other was a drive and then a reverse bounce pass through his legs to Limberiou for an open three.  Incredible play.  Limberiou by the way has one of the prettiest shooting strokes I've seen in D-3. he kept Catholic in the game until the Ephs finally started hitting their open threes late in the game.  If Catholic can find any sort of big guy to replace Kearney (the team's big weakness was no other interior player of note) they will be very tough next year, once again. 

[Matt Letourneau]

Well, its obviously disappointing that on the biggest stage, our 2nd leading scorer didn't play at all, and the most important player on the team went down with 12:00 to go.  Against a team like Williams, that's just too much adversity to overcome.

But I'm proud of them for fighting.  I believe they had the lead when Chris went out.  Who knows what would have happened, but they certainly were showing they could play high caliber basketball on the road.  At the end of the day, it was still a fantastic season, and the seniors went out as conference champions  and with a tournament win.  I think it also brought a lot of the alumni, former players, and campus community together and to some extent reenergized the basketball program.  I know we're losing a lot next year, but there were some real growth in the underclassmen and this run certainly does not hurt recruitment. 

I hope the Cardinals are holding their heads up high on the trip back to DC.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Well... many schools are finding ways to insert ads into their webstreams, so while there might not be for-pay stations, school streams can be a source of some revenue and that will start happening in the near future (it already is at some places).

[ronk]

Well... many schools are finding ways to insert ads into their webstreams, so while there might not be for-pay stations, school streams can be a source of some revenue and that will start happening in the near future (it already is at some places).

Is that sufficient reason to affect how and when the game is played/delayed or should they be forced into running their ads during the existing non-media timeouts?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Yes because if you start getting advertisers, they want to make sure their content is seen. You can't guarantee them it will be seen when you can't guarantee even half of the timeouts allotted will be used. Media timeouts guarantee the advertiser's programming will be seen.

When putting together the Hoopsville Classic, I could tell advertisers their ads would be seen, say, six times a game because we had media timeouts to do it.

And the game is already affected by media timeouts at the championship games to the point that many in Division III realized they had to get these teams used to the scenarios. Too many times teams are walking out of timeouts when there was a still a full minute left to go because they aren't used to them. Coaches aren't used to the changes it will have on their substitution patterns and normal thinking when it comes to using their timeouts.

Also, many have reported that using media timeouts of 60 to 75 seconds have actually sped up their normal game times, not slowed it down. The biggest reason? Instead of four 1:15 or so timeouts and two 30 second ones... coaches have five 30 seconds ones (one has to be used in the first half or it is lost) and just one full timeout. It makes a big difference especially late in games.

Division III basketball rules allow for media timeouts and in an age of trying to find revenue dollars just to help maybe just make a dent in the spending especially for the video broadcasts to begin with, I think it is well worth it. And to be honest, I think it brings a sense of importance to the game because you aren't just playing for those in the gym... you are aware you are playing in front of many others tuning in.

[Matt Letourneau]

Congratulations to Catholic's Coach Steve Howes and senior Chris Kearney for being named D3hoops.com Mid Atlantic Coach and Player of the Year.  Well deserved for both.

Congratulations also to CUA's Shawn Holmes and Scranton's Ross Danzig for being named 3rd team all Mid-Atlantic.