MBB: Landmark Conference

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Well, their SOS was far higher than I ever expected it to be... and the rest of the Mid-Atlantic Region is struggling and are not playing as well as they were a month ago... giving Scranton a chance to sit at the top of the regional rankings - though I completely agree, I don't see why Scranton is #1 right now since they only win one of the criteria points compared to Cabrini.

[Pat Coleman]

Perhaps part of the reason why Scranton's SOS is unexpectedly high. From the Pool C board:

Five ranked teams benefiting the most from the NCAA's SOS calculation method (NCAA/'Correct'):
1.   NYU – (.551/.498) +.051
2.   Guilford – (.541/.499) +.041
3.   Scranton – (.549/.512) +.037
4.   Dubuque – (.509/.481) +.027
5.   Whitworth – (.521/.494) + .027

The NCAA math gurus calculate the SOS number in a way that makes no sense. They apply the home-away multiplier in the wrong part of the equation.

To know more, you'd have to ask a math guy, not a word guy. But KnightSlappy, the guy with the RPIs and the regional rankings projections, has written about it quite a lot in the past 12 months. The men's basketball committee tried to get it fixed and the D-III championships committee refused.

[CardsFan]

100% credit to Goucher men's basketball for winning a game where they were down by 11 at halftime on the road. Smart game from Alex Noble tonight. I have to say though, it plainly appeared tonight that Catholic's players were not interested in playing basketball tonight. The players looked like they really hated being out there. Goucher deserved to win that game tonight.

Cardsfan are you a player?

Nope. Just seen most of their games for 15 years.

[gouchersid]

This has been checked and re-checked several times by several different people, so I think it is accurate: Four teams remain in the hunt for the final playoff berth. The only one of the five who haven't clinched so far that can't make it in is Drew. It is conceivable that all four games on Saturday could help determine the final playoff team.

Men's Basketball
-   Scranton is the No. 1 seed.
-   If Catholic defeats Moravian or Susquehanna loses to USMMA, Catholic is No. 2.
-   Susquehanna has clinched a spot, but could be No. 2, 3 or 4. If Susquehanna defeats USMMA and Catholic loses, Susquehanna is No. 2. If Susquehanna defeats USMMA and Catholic wins, Susquehanna is No. 3.
-   Goucher gets in if Catholic, Drew, Goucher and Susquehanna win. It forces a 3-way tie between Drew, Goucher and USMMA and Goucher wins the tiebreaker.
-   Juniata gets in if Goucher, Moravian, Juniata and Susquehanna win. It forces a 4-way tie between Goucher, Juniata, Moravian and USMMA and Juniata wins the tiebreaker.
-   Moravian gets in Drew, Moravian, Scranton and Susquehanna win. It forces a 3-way tie between Drew, Moravian and USMMA and Moravian wins the tiebreaker.
-   If USMMA wins, they're in and clinch the No. 3 seed. If they lose, they need Scranton and Catholic to win to clinch the No. 4 seed.

[ronk]

Gouchersid,
  Thanks for the tiebreaker outcomes.

[Charles]

100% credit to Goucher men's basketball for winning a game where they were down by 11 at halftime on the road. Smart game from Alex Noble tonight. I have to say though, it plainly appeared tonight that Catholic's players were not interested in playing basketball tonight. The players looked like they really hated being out there. Goucher deserved to win that game tonight.

Cardsfan are you a player?

Nope. Just seen most of their games for 15 years.

So what's going on with the team this year? I have followed them on an off since I lived in DC and this year it just seems like they are lost. Is it poor Coaching or recruiting? I think CUA is very expensive.

[Pat Coleman]

One of their top players is sick and has been out for a few weeks.

First-time poster....
I've seen a lot of posts about Limberiou being out the last 4 games, haven't heard anything official from the team, but I have heard claims that it is a chest-related issue, possible pneumothorax. These are just the grumblings I've heard around the gym. If true, most likely done for the season. Hopefully not done for good.

[CardsFan]

100% credit to Goucher men's basketball for winning a game where they were down by 11 at halftime on the road. Smart game from Alex Noble tonight. I have to say though, it plainly appeared tonight that Catholic's players were not interested in playing basketball tonight. The players looked like they really hated being out there. Goucher deserved to win that game

So what's going on with the team this year? I have followed them on an off since I lived in DC and this year it just seems like they are lost. Is it poor Coaching or recruiting? I think CUA is very expensive.

It is expensive to go there, but there are other small, private schools that cost a lot that have figured out how to stay on top. Big problem this year seems that they are tired. The starters have been run into the ground and they haven't developed reliable options off the bench.

[Charles]

100% credit to Goucher men's basketball for winning a game where they were down by 11 at halftime on the road. Smart game from Alex Noble tonight. I have to say though, it plainly appeared tonight that Catholic's players were not interested in playing basketball tonight. The players looked like they really hated being out there. Goucher deserved to win that game

So what's going on with the team this year? I have followed them on an off since I lived in DC and this year it just seems like they are lost. Is it poor Coaching or recruiting? I think CUA is very expensive.

It is expensive to go there, but there are other small, private schools that cost a lot that have figured out how to stay on top. Big problem this year seems that they are tired. The starters have been run into the ground and they haven't developed reliable options off the bench.

Thanks Coach.

[CardsFan]

Any real arguments to be made for the individual awards?

Ross Danzig, Scranton-POY (seems like runaway winner)

Carl Danzig, Scranton-COY (same as above)

Corey Stanford, CUA, Newcomer of the Year (only other candidate I see is Steven Weidlich at Susquehanna).

[ronk]

Any real arguments to be made for the individual awards?

Ross Danzig, Scranton-POY (seems like runaway winner)

Carl Danzig, Scranton-COY (same as above)

Corey Stanford, CUA, Newcomer of the Year (only other candidate I see is Steven Weidlich at Susquehanna).

Sounds good; I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought I saw previously that Danzig had never won COY despite winning the AQ most years.

[CardsFan]

Any real arguments to be made for the individual awards?

Ross Danzig, Scranton-POY (seems like runaway winner)

Carl Danzig, Scranton-COY (same as above)

Corey Stanford, CUA, Newcomer of the Year (only other candidate I see is Steven Weidlich at Susquehanna).

Sounds good; I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought I saw previously that Danzig had never won COY despite winning the AQ most years.

That could be true, which doesn't make much sense. He probably should have won it 3 or 4 times by now

[ronk]

Any real arguments to be made for the individual awards?

Ross Danzig, Scranton-POY (seems like runaway winner)

Carl Danzig, Scranton-COY (same as above)

Corey Stanford, CUA, Newcomer of the Year (only other candidate I see is Steven Weidlich at Susquehanna).

Sounds good; I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought I saw previously that Danzig had never won COY despite winning the AQ most years.

That could be true, which doesn't make much sense. He probably should have won it 3 or 4 times by now

I just looked it up; it's true that Danzig hasn't won it; everyone except Scranton and Goucher has won it 1 time each.
Separately, the worst record in the league is 5-9 and 7 teams were between 8-6 & 5-9 - most competitive year ever.

[NEPAFAN]

Any real arguments to be made for the individual awards?

Ross Danzig, Scranton-POY (seems like runaway winner)

Carl Danzig, Scranton-COY (same as above)

Corey Stanford, CUA, Newcomer of the Year (only other candidate I see is Steven Weidlich at Susquehanna).

Sounds good; I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought I saw previously that Danzig had never won COY despite winning the AQ most years.

That could be true, which doesn't make much sense. He probably should have won it 3 or 4 times by now

I just looked it up; it's true that Danzig hasn't won it; everyone except Scranton and Goucher has won it 1 time each.
Separately, the worst record in the league is 5-9 and 7 teams were between 8-6 & 5-9 - most competitive year ever.

Not loving the first round match up against MMA since they already came into the Long Center once and knocked off Scranton. What's with the 530 start time?

[ronk]

Any real arguments to be made for the individual awards?

Ross Danzig, Scranton-POY (seems like runaway winner)

Carl Danzig, Scranton-COY (same as above)

Corey Stanford, CUA, Newcomer of the Year (only other candidate I see is Steven Weidlich at Susquehanna).

Sounds good; I may be remembering incorrectly, but I thought I saw previously that Danzig had never won COY despite winning the AQ most years.

That could be true, which doesn't make much sense. He probably should have won it 3 or 4 times by now

I just looked it up; it's true that Danzig hasn't won it; everyone except Scranton and Goucher has won it 1 time each.
Separately, the worst record in the league is 5-9 and 7 teams were between 8-6 & 5-9 - most competitive year ever.

Not loving the first round match up against MMA since they already came into the Long Center once and knocked off Scranton. What's with the 530 start time?

It's a doubleheader, since the women are also hosting a semifinal game(7:30) on the same day; men go 1st this year in Landmark conference play