MBB: Landmark Conference

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: Matt Letourneau on March 03, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2015, 05:59:57 PM
Well, I took it on Dave's word. Maybe it was an off-camera conversation or maybe it took place at the Hoopsville Classic or at Catholic's game at Goucher. I'm not privy to everything in Dave's head (thank goodness!) but he talks to Howes more than I do. Maybe more than you do, too, I don't know.

I don't believe that was the case. If its going to be repeated as gospel across multiple shows and platforms...then...its not asking too much to be sure that's actually what was said.

No kidding. Thanks for the reminder, Matt.
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ronk

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2015, 11:34:48 PM
Quote from: Matt Letourneau on March 03, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2015, 05:59:57 PM
Well, I took it on Dave's word. Maybe it was an off-camera conversation or maybe it took place at the Hoopsville Classic or at Catholic's game at Goucher. I'm not privy to everything in Dave's head (thank goodness!) but he talks to Howes more than I do. Maybe more than you do, too, I don't know.

I don't believe that was the case. If its going to be repeated as gospel across multiple shows and platforms...then...its not asking too much to be sure that's actually what was said.

My fuzzy memory says the interview took place in relation to the Hoopsville Classic but I couldn't find it in the Hoopsville archives.

No kidding. Thanks for the reminder, Matt.

CardsFan

Quote from: ronk on March 03, 2015, 11:40:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2015, 11:34:48 PM
Quote from: Matt Letourneau on March 03, 2015, 11:09:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 03, 2015, 05:59:57 PM
Well, I took it on Dave's word. Maybe it was an off-camera conversation or maybe it took place at the Hoopsville Classic or at Catholic's game at Goucher. I'm not privy to everything in Dave's head (thank goodness!) but he talks to Howes more than I do. Maybe more than you do, too, I don't know.

I don't believe that was the case. If its going to be repeated as gospel across multiple shows and platforms...then...its not asking too much to be sure that's actually what was said.

My fuzzy memory says the interview took place in relation to the Hoopsville Classic but I couldn't find it in the Hoopsville archives.

No kidding. Thanks for the reminder, Matt.

It was on the Hoopsville episode that aired on February 5. Coach Howes was the first guest on that night and the discussion was at the end of his interview around the 39:15 minute mark. The archive is on CUA's D3hoops team page under news releases. As I said, I had forgotten it aired before regional rankings came out.

Pat Coleman

Yeah. That interview comes close to upholding the standard Dave gives it. He doesn't look at the numbers, he's talking about "body of work" in a system that hasn't rewarded that since 1999 -- practically since he was playing. This doesn't specifically tie in this specific interview to how he puts together his schedule, but it's pretty close.

Jeff Burns, the national chair, specifically gave a call out to coaches to get involved in their Regional Advisory Committee. That would be an eye-opener for a "body of work" coach. (And there are certainly still a lot of them.)

I'm pretty alright with the pundit using it this way. Not perfect but not a travesty.

I wouldn't play Frostburg State. (I get it, they're not overly far away and it's his alma quater but they haven't been a positive addition to SOS for years.) I would make sure you play a better opening round game in your tournament than a team that comes into the season off 7-win and 5-win seasons. I get the whole bad blood with the CAC thing but go play Christopher Newport or play Dickinson again ...

And I don't have a problem with one of the 25 games being played against a D-I team.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2015, 12:14:15 AM
Yeah. That interview comes close to upholding the standard Dave gives it. He doesn't look at the numbers, he's talking about "body of work" in a system that hasn't rewarded that since 1999 -- practically since he was playing. This doesn't specifically tie in this specific interview to how he puts together his schedule, but it's pretty close.

Jeff Burns, the national chair, specifically gave a call out to coaches to get involved in their Regional Advisory Committee. That would be an eye-opener for a "body of work" coach. (And there are certainly still a lot of them.)

I'm pretty alright with the pundit using it this way. Not perfect but not a travesty.

I wouldn't play Frostburg State. (I get it, they're not overly far away and it's his alma quater but they haven't been a positive addition to SOS for years.) I would make sure you play a better opening round game in your tournament than a team that comes into the season off 7-win and 5-win seasons. I get the whole bad blood with the CAC thing but go play Christopher Newport or play Dickinson again ...

And I don't have a problem with one of the 25 games being played against a D-I team.

Is there legitimate bad blood with the CAC? I'm asking out of ignorance. Is that bad blood from CUA towards the league or the other way around?

Pat Coleman

Seemed like there was bad blood with pretty much anyone who left their conferences to join the Landmark. :)
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Matt Letourneau

Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 04, 2015, 12:14:15 AM
Yeah. That interview comes close to upholding the standard Dave gives it. He doesn't look at the numbers, he's talking about "body of work" in a system that hasn't rewarded that since 1999 -- practically since he was playing. This doesn't specifically tie in this specific interview to how he puts together his schedule, but it's pretty close.

Jeff Burns, the national chair, specifically gave a call out to coaches to get involved in their Regional Advisory Committee. That would be an eye-opener for a "body of work" coach. (And there are certainly still a lot of them.)

I'm pretty alright with the pundit using it this way. Not perfect but not a travesty.

I wouldn't play Frostburg State. (I get it, they're not overly far away and it's his alma quater but they haven't been a positive addition to SOS for years.) I would make sure you play a better opening round game in your tournament than a team that comes into the season off 7-win and 5-win seasons. I get the whole bad blood with the CAC thing but go play Christopher Newport or play Dickinson again ...

And I don't have a problem with one of the 25 games being played against a D-I team.

Pat--its a completely different context.  He's not being asked about his scheduling philosophy or whether he looks at or understands the criteria for how teams are selected in the tournament--he was asked solely about the upcoming Regional Rankings and how his team was going to fare.  To then extrapolate from that that the Catholic staff pays no attention to the selection criteria when putting together their schedule is a heck of a stretch.  And at the least, it certainly shouldn't be presented as fact.

You guys have a lot of power--if you say it, people believe it!  I'm just saying--be careful.  There are implications when you say something like that.






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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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All-Conference Teams are out:

First Team: Ross Danzig, Brendan Boken, Bryson Fonville, Jay Howard, Mike Klinger, Brandon Hedley

Second Team: Kevin Herring II, David Smith, Steven Weidlich, Justin Klingman, Corey Stanford, Josh Miller

POY: Bryson Fonville
DPOY: Kevin Phanord
ROY: Jay Howard
COY: Susquehanna staff

3 holdovers from last year's 1st Team in Danzig (3-time 1st Teamer), Boken, and Fonville. CUA, Scranton, and Susquehanna all had 3 honorees. 4 teams not represented at all, but probably tough looking for parity in a league where there was such a gap between the top 3 and everyone else. Congrats to all the honorees.

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What is the contingency plan for tomorrow's snow and the CUA game?
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ronk

 Alvernia will probably be on site tonight; just have to have the refs be able to get there tomorrow.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Maryland is expecting about five inches of snow from this - I know they asked people to stay off the roads during the day, but I doubt it will be too much trouble.
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NEPAFAN

Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 05, 2015, 09:24:02 AM

Maryland is expecting about five inches of snow from this - I know they asked people to stay off the roads during the day, but I doubt it will be too much trouble.

Is the federal government shut down?  ;D
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Charles

Quote from: CardsFan on March 04, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
All-Conference Teams are out:

First Team: Ross Danzig, Brendan Boken, Bryson Fonville, Jay Howard, Mike Klinger, Brandon Hedley

Second Team: Kevin Herring II, David Smith, Steven Weidlich, Justin Klingman, Corey Stanford, Josh Miller

POY: Bryson Fonville
DPOY: Kevin Phanord
ROY: Jay Howard
COY: Susquehanna staff

3 holdovers from last year's 1st Team in Danzig (3-time 1st Teamer), Boken, and Fonville. CUA, Scranton, and Susquehanna all had 3 honorees. 4 teams not represented at all, but probably tough looking for parity in a league where there was such a gap between the top 3 and everyone else. Congrats to all the honorees.

What team does the DPOY play for? Didn't see his name anywhere.

ronk

Quote from: Charles on March 05, 2015, 11:15:06 AM
Quote from: CardsFan on March 04, 2015, 05:43:56 PM
All-Conference Teams are out:

First Team: Ross Danzig, Brendan Boken, Bryson Fonville, Jay Howard, Mike Klinger, Brandon Hedley

Second Team: Kevin Herring II, David Smith, Steven Weidlich, Justin Klingman, Corey Stanford, Josh Miller

POY: Bryson Fonville
DPOY: Kevin Phanord
ROY: Jay Howard
COY: Susquehanna staff

3 holdovers from last year's 1st Team in Danzig (3-time 1st Teamer), Boken, and Fonville. CUA, Scranton, and Susquehanna all had 3 honorees. 4 teams not represented at all, but probably tough looking for parity in a league where there was such a gap between the top 3 and everyone else. Congrats to all the honorees.

What team does the DPOY play for? Didn't see his name anywhere.

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