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Started by Dave 'd-mac' McHugh, February 20, 2007, 07:23:47 PM

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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

I think Scranton needed to get to the title game to be in a better position. With already upsets taking place, I think Scranton fell short this season. However, I haven't had the chance to truly breakdown the numbers. That's what I spend the next four days doing.
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Quote from: saratoga on February 24, 2016, 10:41:56 PM
Looks like Frank made the adjustment & our guy didn't.


I watched 80% of that game last night.  Your guy adjusted from getting his ass handed to him in the first half, to actually having a shot to win near the end.  Maybe he didn't do as much as he could, but those halftime adjustments were pretty darn impressive.  It's not like Susquehanna was shooting the lights out in the first half and came back to earth - they played a mediocre half and just ran Scranton out of the gym.  The fact it wasn't a 40 point loss should at least earn Danzig some credit.  I make no comments on his overall performance for the season or even if he did what is expected of him in this game, but he did make adjustments that worked pretty well, even if they weren't enough for you.
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Hey ronk,

Would Scranton consider an ECAC bid if they don't get in or is that not something the school does?
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Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 25, 2016, 07:56:56 AM

Hey ronk,

Would Scranton consider an ECAC bid if they don't get in or is that not something the school does?

They did play in the ECACs in 2005 @ F&M, but there's been only 2? other years in Danzig's tenure that they have declined to play. It would be advisable to play this year to give PT to a couple of frosh. Lunardi says we have a decent chance @ the NCAA, however.

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Is Scranton a member of the ECAC?  Last year, when I asked if F&M was going to play in the ECAC, I was told they were no longer involved in ECAC basketball.  Maybe that was a coach's decision.

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Scranton is in a bit of rebuild mode. 2 starting positions open ( at least ) and some minutes to replace. no current freshman got any playing time, and only Doolan as a Sophomore.
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Quote from: ronk on February 25, 2016, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 25, 2016, 07:56:56 AM

Hey ronk,

Would Scranton consider an ECAC bid if they don't get in or is that not something the school does?

They did play in the ECACs in 2005 @ F&M, but there's been only 2? other years in Danzig's tenure that they have declined to play. It would be advisable to play this year to give PT to a couple of frosh. Lunardi says we have a decent chance @ the NCAA, however.

I think they have a good chance to get in, as well, but you never what will happen the next three days.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

I honestly don't think they have a good chance. Scranton needed to get to the conference finals to at least put themselves in a better position because another win, especially over a regionally ranked opponent, would have done wonders for their resume. I hate to be blunt and I will admit I haven't poured my head into the numbers fully as of yet, but I just don't like the situation they have put themselves in.
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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
I honestly don't think they have a good chance. Scranton needed to get to the conference finals to at least put themselves in a better position because another win, especially over a regionally ranked opponent, would have done wonders for their resume. I hate to be blunt and I will admit I haven't poured my head into the numbers fully as of yet, but I just don't like the situation they have put themselves in.

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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
I honestly don't think they have a good chance. Scranton needed to get to the conference finals to at least put themselves in a better position because another win, especially over a regionally ranked opponent, would have done wonders for their resume. I hate to be blunt and I will admit I haven't poured my head into the numbers fully as of yet, but I just don't like the situation they have put themselves in.

I agree they're in a bad position, but if we don't have too many upsets, they'll get a hearing at least.  Not sure if they'll make it, but their SOS is good enough to get them to the table, I think.
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Ronk I agree with you!I also think they will get in with an sos at 555 and a couple great wins over the 1 and 2 teams in the region and to do it on the road is a good resume in itself.The atlantic is very weak and the east is okay so I also thinks that helps.

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Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 25, 2016, 11:32:00 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
I honestly don't think they have a good chance. Scranton needed to get to the conference finals to at least put themselves in a better position because another win, especially over a regionally ranked opponent, would have done wonders for their resume. I hate to be blunt and I will admit I haven't poured my head into the numbers fully as of yet, but I just don't like the situation they have put themselves in.

I agree they're in a bad position, but if we don't have too many upsets, they'll get a hearing at least.  Not sure if they'll make it, but their SOS is good enough to get them to the table, I think.

Yeah... really depends on how many upsets there are. Their SOS entering the week was a .542... it currently is a .555... it will shift again, but not sure which direction. They are now 2-4 vRRO when they could have been 3-3 and I think that is where I am the most concerned. Also, their have a 2-6 record against teams with a better than .600 record (Cabrini just fell below that threshold) and I know when the national committee is looking at secondary criteria and get to overall record, they are looking at that factor. That doesn't bode well for Scranton.

Quote from: NEPAFAN on February 25, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 25, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
I honestly don't think they have a good chance. Scranton needed to get to the conference finals to at least put themselves in a better position because another win, especially over a regionally ranked opponent, would have done wonders for their resume. I hate to be blunt and I will admit I haven't poured my head into the numbers fully as of yet, but I just don't like the situation they have put themselves in.

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I realize you don't like it when people speak ill about Scranton especially when it apparently comes from me. But I don't drink the Kool-Aid and I take it from a much larger perspective, clearly.

Listen, Scranton has a nice SOS number, but so will pretty much most of those at the table when they get there. They will be sitting with other teams who have 20-wins and less losses. They will also be there with teams with similiar resumes. The trick will come down to what does the committee do - take the better WL% or lean on the SOS. I have already been told this year when breaking a tie - the committee is going to go with WL%. That coupled with the fact that Scranton is .250 against those who win 60% of their games or more... makes me think Scranton is in trouble. Like it or not. A win over Susquehanna would have given them 20-wins, boosted their vRRO to 3-3 (and promised 3-4 at worse), and raised their v60 to .300 at worse (considering a loss in the title game to make them a Pool C team to enter this equation)... all of which is a far better resume in a very crowded Pool C field this year.
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I just knew you were going to feel the need to comment on Scranton in the post seasons and react negatively. Just like you haven't had them in your Top 25 the whole year ( save 1 week maybe). No surprises here, when it comes to you and Scranton.
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