WBB: Landmark Conference

Started by Dave 'd-mac' McHugh, February 20, 2007, 07:24:46 PM

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ronk

 Hopefully, Catholic is selected but they have 4(Messiah-Albright loser,Widener,Gettysburg,UMW) candidates ahead of them in the MA region rankings before they get to the selection table; it could happen.
Good effort by the Lady Royals; Catholic plays their helping defense well and consistently gives Scranton trouble with it. But PLAYERS make plays and Mac and Bridget did today to hold off Catholic.

Rofrog

Ronk I think Catholic gets in they beat Haverford,Scranton,Marymount that is some nice wins!!

saratoga


Congrats to Coach, his assistants & certainly all the Lady Royal's (most certainly this Senior class), for another year of championship basketball.

I think the turning point for this season came when Coach realized that as much as he hopes to coach kids in a run & gun offense...first you need to have those players. Understanding what he had personnel wise & the game that suits their strengths & what had been so successful for them and going back to that style was huge.

I think I read somewhere that this group of Seniors have only experienced something like 12 losses in 4 years.

Half the D3 teams across the country have that many losses by January so what these kids have accomplished is pretty special.

Here's to hoping they get to play together at least one more weekend in the Long Center...they've certainly earned it!

Rofrog

I have a question on your mock picking for pool c tonight,First does the committe use the 3rd regional rankings or do they have a final ranking and if they do have a final ranking what's not to say Cathiloc which made it to the Championship game doesnt move up in the final rankings I mean widener didnt even make it to the championship game and I think when you talk about regional ranked teams Catholic beat number 1 Marymount number 2 Scranton and  a divison champ.which I think moves up to number 4 in the final regional rankings  -Haverford?

Pat Coleman

Catholic did beat those teams, but also lost to Mary Washington. If the committee insists on keeping Mary Washington in that spot and having Catholic behind them because of the head-to-head result, Catholic won't get in.
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Rofrog

I'm just so glad they split up the Middle Atlantic teams like they did with the Nescac!!!lol

Rofrog

Dave McHugh-I love that question you asked Karin about have no teams name on and have it blank.Just put numbers on it !Love that idea great question!

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Rofrog on March 03, 2020, 12:01:32 AM
Dave McHugh-I love that question you asked Karin about have no teams name on and have it blank.Just put numbers on it !Love that idea great question!

I've asked it a few times to different people ... I don't think I've gotten the same answer twice.
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Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Rofrog on March 02, 2020, 01:12:39 AM
I have a question on your mock picking for pool c tonight,First does the committe use the 3rd regional rankings or do they have a final ranking and if they do have a final ranking what's not to say Cathiloc which made it to the Championship game doesnt move up in the final rankings I mean widener didnt even make it to the championship game and I think when you talk about regional ranked teams Catholic beat number 1 Marymount number 2 Scranton and  a divison champ.which I think moves up to number 4 in the final regional rankings  -Haverford?

In case it was never updated ... there is a whole other set of rankings. The RACs met on Sunday morning and did their work (including those who presented options for conference title games that hadn't finished). Then the national committee got together and made any adjustments they felt necessary. THEN the vRRO data is retabulated after the conference championship game are over and using the national committee's "final" rankings. That vRRO data is compiled from the Week 3 rankings and that "final" rankings. That is the ONLY time vRRO comes from two set of rankings. The committee looks over the data and makes another set of adjustments if (probably) necessary. Then they proceed forward.

Final rankings have now been posted, by the way. You can find them on our website.
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Rofrog

My question to Dave is you do so much for the game of Basketball on both ends have you ever been offered to sit on the committee of either the Men or Women you would be a big help to them.I heard Karin say we Volunteer for this I think you need someone outside the box to ask them question like you do before they put the bracket together.I understand no one is perfect but your knowledge of the game would help them outside the box as a fan perspective rather then someone that is part of the game !Just my thought

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Rofrog on March 03, 2020, 01:45:25 AM
My question to Dave is you do so much for the game of Basketball on both ends have you ever been offered to sit on the committee of either the Men or Women you would be a big help to them.I heard Karin say we Volunteer for this I think you need someone outside the box to ask them question like you do before they put the bracket together.I understand no one is perfect but your knowledge of the game would help them outside the box as a fan perspective rather then someone that is part of the game !Just my thought

You have to an employee of an NCAA institution and nominated, usually to a RAC at least once, before you get national committee duties.  It's quite the process, which is why not every coach is into the time commitment.
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Swish3

Another post season, another trip to Scranton...they're deserving a lot of the time, but they're also in a great location it seems.  Anyone happen to know how many NCAA tournament games Scranton has played at home?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 03, 2020, 08:22:18 AM
Quote from: Rofrog on March 03, 2020, 01:45:25 AM
My question to Dave is you do so much for the game of Basketball on both ends have you ever been offered to sit on the committee of either the Men or Women you would be a big help to them.I heard Karin say we Volunteer for this I think you need someone outside the box to ask them question like you do before they put the bracket together.I understand no one is perfect but your knowledge of the game would help them outside the box as a fan perspective rather then someone that is part of the game !Just my thought

You have to an employee of an NCAA institution and nominated, usually to a RAC at least once, before you get national committee duties.  It's quite the process, which is why not every coach is into the time commitment.

First off .. yes, I've asked if I can be part of the process at least as a media member to see how it all happens and how it all works. That has been received well, but hasn't been allowed. You might notice, there are never media members even embedded with the D1 process either.

And as Ryan said ... you have to be an NCAA member. I don't qualify, unfortunately. I do try and talk extensively with those who do spend time on the committees - both on air and a ton off air. Sometimes we get incredible information out of that to understand it all. Other times, I seem to get confusing or irrelevant information. :)

Though, those conversations are where I try and put nuggets in their minds about better ideas or ways to do things. I try and do it respectfully and sometimes it is then explained why my ideas don't work. Other times, they do consider them. I think a lot of the changes we have seen over the years have come from people like Pat, Gordon, Ryan, and myself bringing up ideas on air and off that make their way through the committees. I've even done it in other sports, though clearly not nearly as much as I do in basketball.

But I appreciate your kind words about my knowledge.
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Swish3

I took the liberty of looking back at Scranton's schedule from the 06-07 season through the 18-19 season...if I'm correct, they made the tournament in 11 of 13 years and hosted the first two rounds 9 times, then hosted the sectionals 4 times.  In those 11 tournaments, they won 17 of 22 games at home and 1 of 6 on the road (does not include loss at Salem last year)...so, what does all this mean?  Well, Scranton hosts A LOT and wins most of their games at home, while they seem to struggle on the road, but I do acknowledge that 3 of those 5 road losses are against sectional opponents.  When you win a lot of games during the regular season and are in a great geographical location, that's a tough combination to beat when it comes to hosting privileges...I think I'm just jealous.  Oh, if you include this season, make that hosting the first two rounds 10 out of 12 years...I wonder if any of the NESCAC schools have hosted this much?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Swish3 on March 03, 2020, 03:29:09 PM
I took the liberty of looking back at Scranton's schedule from the 06-07 season through the 18-19 season...if I'm correct, they made the tournament in 11 of 13 years and hosted the first two rounds 9 times, then hosted the sectionals 4 times.  In those 11 tournaments, they won 17 of 22 games at home and 1 of 6 on the road (does not include loss at Salem last year)...so, what does all this mean?  Well, Scranton hosts A LOT and wins most of their games at home, while they seem to struggle on the road, but I do acknowledge that 3 of those 5 road losses are against sectional opponents.  When you win a lot of games during the regular season and are in a great geographical location, that's a tough combination to beat when it comes to hosting privileges...I think I'm just jealous.  Oh, if you include this season, make that hosting the first two rounds 10 out of 12 years...I wonder if any of the NESCAC schools have hosted this much?

Most of the favorites in that NESCAC comparison also have men's programs who are perennial Top 25 and NCAA tournament favorites. As a result, they tend to lose hosting chances (either gender) because of the priorities given for each weekend on which years. Scranton has had a good men's team, but not nearly as good as some of those NESCACs and thus aren't usually in the same situation for hosting - don't qualify for the tournament as often, either.
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