WBB: Landmark Conference

Started by Dave 'd-mac' McHugh, February 20, 2007, 07:24:46 PM

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saratoga


Thanks Augie.
That's what it looked like before FloSports pulled the plug.

Augie2020

That left side of the bracket is murder row!

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: Augie2020 on February 26, 2024, 03:58:37 PMThat left side of the bracket is murder row!

I think it's pretty balanced.
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saratoga


How the heck did Scranton draw Framingham St. & Catholic ends up with Penn. St. Behrand?
That seems slightly backwards.

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My best guess is that DeSales and Wash & Lee were in the Top 16, but couldn't host due to geography (HSU and DePauw pods), so the committee decided to let them host as alternatives for the hosts that were bumped by their men's teams (NYU and Catholic).

As a result, they seem to have bracketed essentially two "4" seeds in each of those pods - so they have a much tougher second round matchup, but a slightly easier first round matchup.

I'm sure Dave will ask the committee chair about it tonight.  I'm not sure it can be explained any other way,though.
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saratoga


Thanks, Ryan.
Something isn't right.

Could have also sent them up the road to at large host Bates & sent Brooklyn to the Electric City.
Both make more sense that what they (committee) landed on.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: saratoga on February 26, 2024, 05:00:18 PMThanks, Ryan.
Something isn't right.

Could have also sent them up the road to at large host Bates & sent Brooklyn to the Electric City.
Both make more sense that what they (committee) landed on.

There were a ton of geographic constraints this year, especially on the "2" line in pods.  There were a disproportionate number of 2s in the midwest, some of which had to get pushed east, plus you had a couple of 1s losing hosting position for geography - and the limits of having two hosts in Maine and one in RI.  Our mock bracketing was VERY difficult to manage nationally - Gettysburg and JHU are underseeded as well.  There was going to be a sacrifice somewhere - I think this committee did a phenomenal job given the constraints.  Putting this perfectly right in the East would've been massive inequity farther west.  This was a truly commendable job of balancing a bracket, far better than any WBB bracket in my recent memory.  It might not be better overall, but given the realities of the Division a real work of art.
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Augie2020

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2024, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: saratoga on February 26, 2024, 05:00:18 PMThanks, Ryan.
Something isn't right.

Could have also sent them up the road to at large host Bates & sent Brooklyn to the Electric City.
Both make more sense that what they (committee) landed on.

There were a ton of geographic constraints this year, especially on the "2" line in pods.  There were a disproportionate number of 2s in the midwest, some of which had to get pushed east, plus you had a couple of 1s losing hosting position for geography - and the limits of having two hosts in Maine and one in RI.  Our mock bracketing was VERY difficult to manage nationally - Gettysburg and JHU are underseeded as well.  There was going to be a sacrifice somewhere - I think this committee did a phenomenal job given the constraints.  Putting this perfectly right in the East would've been massive inequity farther west.  This was a truly commendable job of balancing a bracket, far better than any WBB bracket in my recent memory.  It might not be better overall, but given the realities of the Division a real work of art.
I will take Pat Colemans bracket.Especially when Dave asked why Desales(Talking about NYU)-You could have easily did what Pat did send them up the road to Vasser!It is not perfect but Pats Bracket made alot more sense.

ronk

   The chair said tonight that past history is to reward the 2-seeds if a 1-seed can't host. This penalizes the 1-seed(NYU, Catholic, this year) by having to play on a 2-seed's(DeSales, W&L) home court in the 2nd round rather than on a neutral court(3 or 4-seed). I was afraid this was the case but at least it's out in the open now. That was my question to Dave McHugh to ask her tonight and thankfully, he did ask her.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: ronk on February 26, 2024, 09:17:45 PMThe chair said tonight that past history is to reward the 2-seeds if a 1-seed can't host. This penalizes the 1-seed(NYU, Catholic, this year) by having to play on a 2-seed's(DeSales, W&L) home court in the 2nd round rather than on a neutral court(3 or 4-seed). I was afraid this was the case but at least it's out in the open now. That was my question to Dave McHugh to ask her tonight and thankfully, he did ask her.

I agree, it's not ideal, but it's what they do.  As for alternative locations, we just don't know what sites are available.  The committee is dependent on which schools actually bid to host.
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Augie2020

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2024, 11:14:01 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 26, 2024, 09:17:45 PMThe chair said tonight that past history is to reward the 2-seeds if a 1-seed can't host. This penalizes the 1-seed(NYU, Catholic, this year) by having to play on a 2-seed's(DeSales, W&L) home court in the 2nd round rather than on a neutral court(3 or 4-seed). I was afraid this was the case but at least it's out in the open now. That was my question to Dave McHugh to ask her tonight and thankfully, he did ask her.

I agree, it's not ideal, but it's what they do.  As for alternative locations, we just don't know what sites are available.  The committee is dependent on which schools actually bid to host.
Well you should ask Coach Meredith Mesaris Former Basketball standout at the UofS

Augie2020

Surprised Kranson did not get player of the year and Coach of the year was not Ben O'brien.Okay then!Wow

ronk

Quote from: Augie2020 on February 27, 2024, 11:44:08 PMSurprised Kranson did not get player of the year and Coach of the year was not Ben O'brien.Okay then!Wow

 There will be 2 more years to battle for POY between them; at least the winner was from northeastern PA.

saratoga


Congrats to Anna Scoblick on winning POY.
Another local player that former coach DiPillo never even spoke to even though she was coached by Deanna Klingman.
She has always worked her tail off to get better & it's paying off.
The best thing to happen to Lady Royal basketball was DiPillo leaving for another D1 assistant coaching gig.

Well done to Kaeli voted as DPOY, Meghan as ROY, Kaci as a First Team selection & Maddy Ryan as a second team pick.

Not sure what Ben & his coaching staff didn't quite accomplish as they defeated CUA twice & won the Landmark on Catholic's court.

ronk

Quote from: saratoga on February 28, 2024, 11:15:17 AMCongrats to Anna Scoblick on winning POY.
Another local player that former coach DiPillo never even spoke to even though she was coached by Deanna Klingman.
She has always worked her tail off to get better & it's paying off.
The best thing to happen to Lady Royal basketball was DiPillo leaving for another D1 assistant coaching gig.

Well done to Kaeli voted as DPOY, Meghan as ROY, Kaci as a First Team selection & Maddy Ryan as a second team pick.

Not sure what Ben & his coaching staff didn't quite accomplish as they defeated CUA twice & won the Landmark on Catholic's court.


 I guess it was more what Catholic accomplished(regular season title) with a decidedly thinner bench than what Ben's staff did accomplish.