WBB: Landmark Conference

[ronk]

 Head-to-head is the 1st, which in this case, is a split; then u work your way down the standings until the tie is broken - vs 3rd, then 4th, etc.

[gordonmann]

In other words, if both Scranton and CUA win out, then it depends on whether E'town or Moravian finishes higher in the standings. If E-town finishes higher, then Catholic wins the tie breaker. And if Moravian finishes higher, then Scranton wins it.

Have I got that right? If so, the last game between Moravian and E'town looms large.

[ronk]

 That's right, along with the 4-way battle(add Drew and Susquehanna to E-town and Moravian)) for the 3rd and 4th spots in the conference playoff.

[saratoga]

Watching yesterday's game I have to wonder why Sophia wasn't given any help trying to slow down Gracie as she dominated in the post during the 3rd. & first part of the 4th. quarters?

Once you allow easy passes that deep and Sophia is playing behind her, there isn't that much that can be done...especially when the refs are calling things tight.

Why not place Danielle in front of her to deny the easy passes and cheat on one of their other players?

Or, try a 2/3 zone and box her up & force them to hit from the outside until they prove they can or get them to try and force the ball in where turnovers happen? No offense, but it isn't like Juniata is the second coming of Tufts.

Sophia played her tough but once you allow uncontested passes that low into such a good player, not much anyone can do.

If the Lady Royals plan to play a few extra games this season, they better have some contingency plans ready for situations such as this.

Their response yesterday leaves me believing they're not quite there.

[ronk]

  My sense is that your suggestions are "old school" - don't let a team(or best player) beat u with what they do best; make the lesser players beat u doing things they're not using to doing(making plays) - maybe, "new school" considers that too negative - that one can't win by playing straight up.
  I had the same feeling about the men's team earlier in the season when the Arcadia guard lit them up with 43 points.
The Lady Royals could use a different offensive inbounding strategy, also; the defenders seem to have too good a chance to intercept when you're depending on the receiver to catch a pass running from 20' feet away.

[saratoga]

Don't get me wrong....I'm all for innovation, metrics and a fresh way of looking at similar issues.

But when one person is putting a team solely on her back and has scored 95% of her teams points over a 12 minute span, then whether it's "old school" or not, you need to make adjustments.

Also agree on the extremely lazy entry passes.

They need to present several options coming toward the ball as opposed to a singular option going away from it.

[Tim the Enchanter]

It shouldn't have had to come down to needing a strong 4th quarter to beat Juniata.  They should have made the adjustments to not let them back into the game in the third.  They can't get away with that in March.

That said, with Gettysburg's loss, they have the same record but Scranton's SOS is slightly better so Scranton could move into 2nd when the next regional rankings come out.

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

In other words, if both Scranton and CUA win out, then it depends on whether E'town or Moravian finishes higher in the standings. If E-town finishes higher, then Catholic wins the tie breaker. And if Moravian finishes higher, then Scranton wins it.

Have I got that right? If so, the last game between Moravian and E'town looms large.

what if both E'town and Moravian finish tied?  who currently has that tie breaker?

[saratoga]

If they finished tied as well, I'm pretty sure Landmark by-laws go to Rofrog for the tie breaker. 

[ronk]

In other words, if both Scranton and CUA win out, then it depends on whether E'town or Moravian finishes higher in the standings. If E-town finishes higher, then Catholic wins the tie breaker. And if Moravian finishes higher, then Scranton wins it.

Have I got that right? If so, the last game between Moravian and E'town looms large.

what if both E'town and Moravian finish tied?  who currently has that tie breaker?

Depends on who is 1st and 2nd; if Catholic is 1st, then Moravian,being 1-1 vs Catholic, would win the tiebreaker for 3rd, since E-town is 0-2 vs Catholic. If Scranton is 1st, then E-town would win the tiebreaker for 3rd.

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

if Catholic ties Scranton for #1 AND E-Town ties Moravian for #3, which tie breaker resolves first?

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

if Catholic ties Scranton for #1 AND E-Town ties Moravian for #3, which tie breaker resolves first?

I've never heard of a league that doesn't resolved them top to bottom.

[ronk]

if Catholic ties Scranton for #1 AND E-Town ties Moravian for #3, which tie breaker resolves first?

Decscending from the top; each tie will be broken differently depending on whether it is 12-2,11-3, or 10-4 for 1st and 9-5 or 8-6 for 3rd.

Here's the Landmark tiebreaker:
https://www.landmarkconference.org/championships/tiebreakers

[VT-Alum-NOVA]

I like Landmark tie-breaker better than CAC

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I think the Landmark could get rid of the non-conference stuff. I think that begs to have other factors determine things. Other conferences use regional rankings to break it up. I'm fine with that.