WBB: Landmark Conference

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Swish3

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 03, 2020, 03:33:42 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on March 03, 2020, 03:29:09 PM
I took the liberty of looking back at Scranton's schedule from the 06-07 season through the 18-19 season...if I'm correct, they made the tournament in 11 of 13 years and hosted the first two rounds 9 times, then hosted the sectionals 4 times.  In those 11 tournaments, they won 17 of 22 games at home and 1 of 6 on the road (does not include loss at Salem last year)...so, what does all this mean?  Well, Scranton hosts A LOT and wins most of their games at home, while they seem to struggle on the road, but I do acknowledge that 3 of those 5 road losses are against sectional opponents.  When you win a lot of games during the regular season and are in a great geographical location, that's a tough combination to beat when it comes to hosting privileges...I think I'm just jealous.  Oh, if you include this season, make that hosting the first two rounds 10 out of 12 years...I wonder if any of the NESCAC schools have hosted this much?

Most of the favorites in that NESCAC comparison also have men's programs who are perennial Top 25 and NCAA tournament favorites. As a result, they tend to lose hosting chances (either gender) because of the priorities given for each weekend on which years. Scranton has had a good men's team, but not nearly as good as some of those NESCACs and thus aren't usually in the same situation for hosting - don't qualify for the tournament as often, either.

Good point, Dave....

Rofrog

Swish amazing you didnt do that for the nescac also!!!Did you realize since that year  you mention 2006 that the nescac had one team host then in 2009 until today there was  two to three teams hosting from the nescac except 2016 when Bowdin hosted.

Rofrog

Nescac teams hosted 2006&7 Bowdoin 2008 no one 2009,10,11-Amherst&Bowdoin,2012Amherst&Williams,2013 Amhesrt&'Williams,2014&15-Bowdoin&Tufts,2016-Bowdoin,2017Amherst&Tufts,2018&19Amherst,Tufts&Bowdoin.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Rofrog on March 03, 2020, 08:19:32 PM
Swish amazing you didnt do that for the nescac also!!!

A CNU fan isn't likely to care about NESCAC teams hosting, since they are all well more than 500 miles from CNU.
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Agree that the women's selection committee did a nice job with the bracketing considering the constraints placed on them by the NCAA.

One change I would have considered given the fact that Scranton & CNU having been meeting over & over the past several years is to have moved CNU to the New Paltz pod & Smith to Scranton.

If nothing else, it just adds a different look.

Rofrog

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Pat stop picking parts ,he mentioned Scranton and Nescac in the same topic.So keep trying to part words!

Rofrog

I wonder if any Nescac teams hosted as much as Scranton so fill it all in Pat.If your going to pick pieces tell the whole story I notice your good at just picking certain things!

Swish3

Quote from: Rofrog on March 03, 2020, 08:19:32 PM
Swish amazing you didnt do that for the nescac also!!!Did you realize since that year  you mention 2006 that the nescac had one team host then in 2009 until today there was  two to three teams hosting from the nescac except 2016 when Bowdin hosted.

Once I realized how often Scranton hosted, the only other schools I could think of that might rival that kind of frequency would be from the NESCAC, so I threw it in at the end of my commentary.  Since CNU is having to travel to Scranton for the 3rd time in 5 years, that prompted my curiosity, but I do think it would be an interesting comparison.     

gordonmann

Here's a partial answer to that question:

https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/sectional-hosts-chart

This shows which schools hosted during the second weekend, not the first. As someone mentioned below, the NESCAC women do occasionally lose hosting opportunities if the men's team at the same school has priority to host. It switches back and forth each year. This year the men have priority the first weekend and the women the second.

That factor costed Tufts women a chance to host during the first weekend this year and the Amherst women the chance to host a couple years ago when they were sent to Rowan.

The interesting thing is that the sectional host advances to the Final Four less than half the time.

Swish3

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Quote from: gordonmann on March 04, 2020, 11:28:12 AM
Here's a partial answer to that question:

https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/sectional-hosts-chart

This shows which schools hosted during the second weekend, not the first. As someone mentioned below, the NESCAC women do occasionally lose hosting opportunities if the men's team at the same school has priority to host. It switches back and forth each year. This year the men have priority the first weekend and the women the second.

That factor costed Tufts women a chance to host during the first weekend this year and the Amherst women the chance to host a couple years ago when they were sent to Rowan.

The interesting thing is that the sectional host advances to the Final Four less than half the time.

Thanks, Gordon, that's interesting stuff...look at all those NESCAC teams that have hosted the sectionals...wow! :o

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

Quote from: Swish3 on March 04, 2020, 11:44:24 AM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 04, 2020, 11:28:12 AM
Here's a partial answer to that question:

https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/sectional-hosts-chart

This shows which schools hosted during the second weekend, not the first. As someone mentioned below, the NESCAC women do occasionally lose hosting opportunities if the men's team at the same school has priority to host. It switches back and forth each year. This year the men have priority the first weekend and the women the second.

That factor costed Tufts women a chance to host during the first weekend this year and the Amherst women the chance to host a couple years ago when they were sent to Rowan.

The interesting thing is that the sectional host advances to the Final Four less than half the time.

Thanks, Gordon, that's interesting stuff...look at all those NESCAC teams that have hosted the sectionals...wow! :o

To be blunt ... they tend to have really good teams.
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gordonmann

True. Geography also helps, as does having half of your conference schedule translate into results against regionally ranked opponents (one of the primary criteria for getting into the tournament and getting hosting rights).

I'm not convinced that Williams is a better at-large candidate than Ohio Northern or Augsburg, but their SOS and vRRO look great because almost every other game is against a regionally ranked team.

gordonmann

Side note...

I'm headed north to Scranton to watch the game on Saturday, but not Friday.

Feel free to swing by the press box and say hello. Rofrog, Saratoga and I should take a photo for posterity. :)

Rofrog


ronk

Quote from: gordonmann on March 04, 2020, 04:00:08 PM
Side note...

I'm headed north to Scranton to watch the game on Saturday, but not Friday.

Feel free to swing by the press box and say hello. Rofrog, Saratoga and I should take a photo for posterity. :)

Some of us may have to use the elevator.  :)

Hope we're playing Saturday!