Great Lakes Region

[ScotsFan]

But why wouldnt you still put them ahead of Capital, since they beat them on the road? 

I didnt mean putting them in first or anything like that, just why arent people rating them ahead of capital?

I'm looking at the entire body of work.  Capital, while they did lose head to head vs. CMU also has several rather impressive road wins including @ Wittenberg, @ OWU @ JCU and @ ONU.  They've also racked up some pretty impressive drubbings including beating Wilmington by 21, JCU by 15 and BW by 27.  Granted, the OAC isn't as strong as in years past, but it is still a very good conference and these wins have to count for something.

CMU, on the other hand has what I would consider 2 quality wins out of their 10.  Their road win at Cap obviously and their win over ONU at home.  Other than that, only 3 teams of CMU's other 8 wins can boast a record of 0.500 or better with Juniata (9-5) the best of that bunch. 

Like I said before.  Let me see CMU start to rack up some UAA wins and maybe I'll start to warm on them a little more.  Like I also said, unless they beat Brandeis this weekend, they won't be moving ahead of the Cap/Heide winner at least on my ballot.

[kiltedbryan]

Key matchups this week

Wednesday
#3 Capital @ #5 Heidelberg
#6 Ohio Wesleyan @ #7t Wabash

Saturday
#1 Wooster @ #7t Wittenberg

We could add to that list Brandeis v. Carnegie Mellon on Friday. Obviously not a GL region game, though it counts as in-region for those two teams, and with all the debate about Mellon in here, can't hurt to pay attention to this one too.

[Hugenerd]

Key matchups this week

Wednesday
#3 Capital @ #5 Heidelberg
#6 Ohio Wesleyan @ #7t Wabash

Saturday
#1 Wooster @ #7t Wittenberg

We could add to that list Brandeis v. Carnegie Mellon on Friday. Obviously not a GL region game, though it counts as in-region for those two teams, and with all the debate about Mellon in here, can't hurt to pay attention to this one too.

CMU also plays NYU on Sunday, but obviously the big game of the weekend (for CMU) is against Brandeis.

[pennstghs]

A point from the Wittenberg perspective-although Wittenberg's only chance of making the tournament is to successfully win the NCAC Tournament, they are a huge factor in the races. If they can successfully win a few games (i.e. win against Wooster) and improve their record-the wins by Capital, ONU, Transy, will only look even better in the long run and help improve their regional ratings.

If Witt can successfully beat Wooster 1-2 times this year i belive with their continual improvement over the course of the year they will be major players in the season-some tough games to come in the next few weeks!

[kiltedbryan]

For those with interest:

http://www.capital.edu/166/

Link on that page to a live broadcast for tonight's Capital at Heidelberg game.

[sac]

I am just wondering people's reasoning for having Capital ahead of CMU, when CMU beat Capital in Columbus?  CMU has only lost once since opening day and that was to the #1 team in the country.

Since I have the votes......the difference is 5 points, and Capital is #2 on 2 ballots vs CMU being #5 and #3 on the same two ballots.  That accounts for 4 of the 5 points, otherwise its pretty much one in front of the other.

[hope1]

now sac i think hope schould be number 1 in the region with wooster lsoing  what you think

[old ends]

Just picked this off the USA Web Site. Thought you might like to read it- though it is old news to all of you.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2008-01-15-milestone_N.htm

[pennstghs]

hmmm didnt i predict this last week.....witt entered back into the picture somewhat, but a tough couple games ahead

[sac]

Should be an interesting poll this week, with some tough decisions.  Tuesday nights the deadline...........make sure someone reminds me. 

[sac]

Week 2 Great Lakes Poll(Edited)........how they fared.

1. Wooster (4) 11-2..............75 def Hiram 117-87, lost @ Witt 86-87(OT)
2. Hope (4) 10-2...................74 def Kzoo 88-60, def Adrian 74-40
3. Capital 11-2......................60 def Heidelberg 99-90, def Otterbein 86-57
4. Carnegie Mellon 10-2.........55  lost Brandeis 48-60, lost NYU 58-63
5. Heidelberg 11-2.................51 lost Capital 90-99, def Muskingum 83-67
6. Ohio Wesleyan 8-4............35 lost @ Wabash 62-67, def Earlham 79-53
7t. Wabash 8-5.....................15 def Ohio Wes 67-62, def Oberline 99-84
7t. Calvin 7-5........................15 def Adrian 79-67, lost Albion 68-73
9. Wittenberg 7-5.................14 def Earlham 59-49, def Wooster 87-86(OT)
10. PSU-Behrend 8-3...............11 def Mount Aloysius 82-64, def LaRoche 71-60

Others receiving votes:  Muskingum 8, Lake Erie 8, Case Western 4, Ohio Northern 4, Albion 3, Wilmington 1, Grove City 1

[ScotsFan]

Should be an interesting poll this week, with some tough decisions.  Tuesday nights the deadline...........make sure someone reminds me. 

I tried to sort out my poll yesterday and I feel pretty strongly about my top 4.  But after that, it was like picking out of a hat almost.  Tough decisions might be an understatement.

[sac]

Week 3 Great Lakes Region poll

1. Hope (7) 12-2...................88
2. Capital (1) 13-2................77
3. Wooster (1) 12-3..............75
4. Heidelberg 12-3................50
5. Wittenberg 10-5................49
6. Wabash 10-5.....................48
7. Carnegie Mellon 10-4.........42
8. Ohio Wesleyan 9-5.............28
9. PSU-Behrend 12-3..............20
10. Albion 8-5.........................10

Others receiving votes:  Calvin 8, Muskingum 2, Ohio Northern 2, Bethany 1

Key matchups this week

Wednesday
#8 Ohio Wesleyan @ #5 Wittenberg
Saturday
#1 Hope @ Calvin


***Notable weirdness, Heidelberg loses and moves up 1 spot.

[David Collinge]

Can I vote for the Hope women?

[pennstghs]

that Capital loss by Wittenberg earlier in the year is looking better and better