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Hugenerd

Quote from: sac on January 10, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
*  Huge losses for the UAA Great Lakes members Case Western and Carnegie-Mellon, both were swept by Rochester and Emory and Carnegie dropped all four in-region games since the last update.  Now with 7 losses and 2 games with WashU Pool C seems out of reach for Carnegie.

Carnegie isnt doing anything this year.  They are probably the worst team in the UAA right now.  Carnegie will be fortunate to get to double-digit wins this year.

David Collinge

Quote from: sac on January 10, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
*  The NCAC should see Wooster and Witt both add two to their in-region win totals,  both face  Allegheny this week. 
Never count your Gators before they're flushed.  Both games are in Meadville, and 'Gheny has a reasonable chance to win either, or even both.  Plus Witt has a non-trivial game at Denison, who is not as bad as their terrible record would suggest.

ScotsFan

Quote from: David Collinge on January 11, 2010, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: sac on January 10, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
*  The NCAC should see Wooster and Witt both add two to their in-region win totals,  both face  Allegheny this week.
Never count your Gators before they're flushed.  Both games are in Meadville, and 'Gheny has a reasonable chance to win either, or even both.  Plus Witt has a non-trivial game at Denison, who is not as bad as their terrible record would suggest.
:D

As for the rest of your quote, you're taking my job David.  ;)

I agree on your assessments BTW.  Wooster never seems to play well at Allegheny and with the Gators having a senior laden team that has shown signs of being a good team this year, I see no reason to believe that 'Gheny won't come ready to play in both games.


sac

Didn't mean to suggest Allegheny would be an easy win, but on the whole you'd have to make Woo/Witt favorites on both nights regardless of location.  Mostly I thought it interesting both played 'gheny this week.

ScotsFan

Quote from: sac on January 11, 2010, 11:29:24 PM
Didn't mean to suggest Allegheny would be an easy win, but on the whole you'd have to make Woo/Witt favorites on both nights regardless of location.  Mostly I thought it interesting both played 'gheny this week.

I thought that as well.  I'm sure that 'Gheny wasn't all too pleased about seeing those 2 back to back on their schedule even if they are home games for the Gators. 

sac

Big doings in the OAC last night, Heidelberg beat JCU 85-81......this makes 5 in-region losses for JCU meaning their Pool C chances are on life support.

Capital upset Wilmington, which cuts  Wilmington's 2 game lead to 1.



Thomas More beat Bethany 90-88

ScotsFan

I'm not going to go through and rank all of the top teams.   Instead I chose to rank those with records still above .700 in-region.  They are as follows:

1.  Wilmington  10-2
2.  Wittenberg  8-2
3.  Calvin  4-1
4.  Wooster  10-3
5.  PSU-Behrend  7-3
5.  Heidelberg  7-3
----------------------------------------- .700


I think that's all of them.  I didn't really do a thorough job of research, so feel free to add any I might have neglected.

KnightSlappy

GL RPI Rankings through games with scores reported to d3hoops.com at 11 am est. Currently projecting only 4 teams into the tournament, easily the fewest of any region. Numbers are based on in region competition only.

REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.846   0.540   0.528   0.6136   027   A   C      11-2    12-3   OAC      Wilmington
GL   02   0.800   0.529   0.526   0.5963   045   A   C-2     4-1     8-6   MIAA     Calvin
GL   03   0.818   0.505   0.490   0.5796   067   C   037     9-2     9-3   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   04   0.700   0.513   0.560   0.5717   076   C   043     7-3     9-5   OAC      Heidelberg
GL   05   0.769   0.485   0.548   0.5715   077   A          10-3    10-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   06   0.750   0.506   0.494   0.5641   086   C   050     6-2     9-5   MIAA     Albion
GL   07   0.615   0.571   0.492   0.5625   092   C   055     8-5     9-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   08   0.636   0.550   0.500   0.5590   099   C   061     7-4     8-5   UAA      Case Western Reserve
GL   09   0.333   0.697   0.503   0.5576   103   C   065     4-8     4-8   UAA      Carnegie Mellon

GL   10 Thomas Moore
GL   11 Hope
GL   12 Wittenberg


KnightSlappy

Through Sunday's games:


REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.833   0.543   0.504   0.6061   029   A   C       5-1     9-6   MIAA     Calvin
GL   02   0.786   0.528   0.524   0.5914   044   A   C-2    11-3    12-4   OAC      Wilmington
GL   03   0.833   0.500   0.494   0.5817   058   C   031    10-2    10-3   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   04   0.786   0.477   0.539   0.5700   075   A          11-3    11-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   05   0.643   0.570   0.495   0.5695   077   C   043     9-5    10-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   06   0.727   0.496   0.554   0.5684   079   C   045     8-3    10-5   OAC      Heidelberg
GL   07   0.778   0.484   0.502   0.5619   090   C   053     7-2    10-5   MIAA     Albion
GL   08   0.750   0.490   0.486   0.5537   105   A          12-4    12-4   PrAC     Thomas Moore
GL   09   0.667   0.515   0.516   0.5532   106   C   066     8-4     9-5   UAA      Case Western Reserve

Notables:
GL   10   Wittenberg
GL   11   Carnegie Mellon
GL   15   Hope


sac

Quote from: ScotsFan on January 14, 2010, 08:33:16 PM
I'm not going to go through and rank all of the top teams.   Instead I chose to rank those with records still above .700 in-region.  They are as follows:

1.  Wilmington  10-2
2.  Wittenberg  8-2
3.  Calvin  4-1
4.  Wooster  10-3
5.  PSU-Behrend  7-3
5.  Heidelberg  7-3
----------------------------------------- .700


I think that's all of them.  I didn't really do a thorough job of research, so feel free to add any I might have neglected.

Could have saved yourself some time by flipping back one more page :)



Quote from: sac on January 10, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
Updated through Sunday's games

1. Wilmington  11-1
2. PSU-Behrend 8-2
-----------------------------------------.800
3. Wittenberg 7-2
4. Bethany 9-3
4. Wooster 9-3
4. Calvin 3-1
4. Hope 3-1
8. Thomas More 10-4
8. Albion 5-2
-----------------------------------------.700

10. John Carroll 8-4
10. Heidelberg 6-3
12. Case Western 7-4
12. Wabash 7-4
14. Baldwin-Wallace 8-5
15. Frostburg St. 6-4
----------------------------------------.600




sac

#475
Updated through Sunday Jan 17 games


1. PSU-Behrend 10-2
1. Calvin 5-1
3. Wittenberg 9-2
-----------------------------------------.800

4. Wilmington  11-3
4. Wooster 11-3
6. Albion 7-2
7. Thomas More 12-4
8. Heidelberg 8-3
-----------------------------------------.700
9. Bethany 9-4
9. Wabash 9-4
11. Case Western 8-4
11. Hope 4-2
13. John Carroll 9-5
14. Baldwin-Wallace 9-6

----------------------------------------.600

* Quite a shakeup this week

*  As Knightslappy's above post suggests, not a good year for Pool C's from the Great Lakes

* Only one midweek OAC conference game this week, so not much should change for those teams.  Wilmington plays BW on Saturday.....kind of a survival game for BW.

Key games this week.........biggest week of the season thus far for important regional and league matchups

Wednesday
Hope @ Albion
Wittenberg @ Wabash

Friday
Washington-Stl @ Case Western

Saturday
Albion @ Calvin
Wooster @ Wittenberg






ScotsFan

Looks like Albion and Witt have the toughest schedules as both teams have 2 tough games on their slates for the week.

We will get to see if Albion is truly a threat to chase after the MIAA this week.  And a win for the Britons on Wednesday at Kresge could really throw a wrench in Hope's MIAA championship thoughts.  With Hope already 2 games back of both Calvin and Albion, Wed. is pretty much a must win game for the Dutch.

Witt will truly be tested this week and we will see if the loss of their conference POY candidate, Greg Hill will finally start to prove costly for the Tigers.  Allegheny was a test for the Tigers and they passed that with flying colors.  But beating Wabash at Chadwick is never an easy task and Wabash has really been a different team at home.  The NCAC conference race could either widen this week for Wooster or it could become extremely tight by the end of Saturday's games.

ziggy

#477
Quote from: ScotsFan on January 18, 2010, 09:27:35 AM
We will get to see if Albion is truly a threat to chase after the MIAA this week.  And a win for the Britons on Wednesday at Kresge could really throw a wrench in Hope's MIAA championship thoughts.  With Hope already 2 games back of both Calvin and Albion, Wed. is pretty much a must win game for the Dutch.

The first regional rankings are coming out at a time when the picture may begin to clear a bit, at least as far as the MIAA is concerned. Calvin will have played Albion and their second conference game against Hope by Feb. 3 with the return trip to Olivet that night.

KnightSlappy

Through Wednesday's games:

REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.857   0.500   0.509   0.503   0.5916   042   A   C-2     6-1    10-6   MIAA     Calvin
GL   02   0.786   0.527   0.523   0.526   0.5907   045   A   C-2    11-3    12-4   OAC      Wilmington
GL   03   0.833   0.500   0.489   0.496   0.5806   058   C   033    10-2    10-4   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   04   0.643   0.575   0.492   0.547   0.5710   075   C   043     9-5    10-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   05   0.714   0.516   0.519   0.517   0.5664   083   C   049     5-2     9-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   06   0.800   0.461   0.534   0.485   0.5638   084   A          12-3    12-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   07   0.765   0.469   0.490   0.476   0.5483   105   A          13-4    13-4   PrAC     Thomas Moore
GL   08   0.667   0.490   0.544   0.508   0.5477   106   C   066     8-4    10-6   OAC      Heidelberg
GL   09   0.750   0.470   0.499   0.480   0.5473   107   C   067     9-3    13-3   NCAC     Wittenberg

      Pool:   A   Top ranked team in Pool A eligible conference                           
         B   Pool B eligible team                           
         C   At large candidate                           
         N/A   Not eligible for postseason participation                           
                                       
      B or C #      Rank in Pool (C or B)                           
                                       
      A Status:   C   Pool A candidate, would rank within top 19 of Pool C                            
         C-2   2nd tier Pool A candidate, would rank 20-29 of Pool C                            
         Blank   Ranks outside of the top 29 of Pool C                           
                                       
      Updated:   1/21/2010                     

In: Hope (5), Wittenberg (9)
Out: #7 Albion (11), #9 Case Western Reserve (10)
Notable: Wabash (12)

sac

#479
Updated through Sunday Jan 24 games



1. Calvin 7-1
2. Wooster 13-3
3. Wilmington  12-3
-----------------------------------------.800
4. PSU-Behrend 11-3
5. Hope 6-2
6. Bethany 11-4
6. Wabash 11-4
8. Thomas More 13-5
-----------------------------------------.700
9. Heidelberg 9-4
9. Wittenberg 9-4
11. John Carroll 10-5
12. Albion 7-4
----------------------------------------.600
13. Case Western 8-6
14. Baldwin-Wallace 9-7
14. Capital 9-7
14. Grove City 9-7


**  Losses really beginning to pile up, we went from 8 teams with 3 or fewer losses to just 4.  A lot of teams on the brink with the entire 2nd half of most conference seasons to go.

**  Witt and Albion took the biggest hits losing twice in the week to their conference challengers.

**  As knightslappy's chart suggests its really looking like the only chance for 'Pool C's' from this region will come if there are upsets in the conference tournaments with the regular season champs all the likely best candidates.


Saturday
Calvin @ Hope