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KnightSlappy

#480
Through Sunday's games:

REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.875   0.543   0.502   0.529   0.6158   018   A   C       7-1    11-6   MIAA     Calvin
GL   02   0.800   0.545   0.526   0.539   0.6041   031   A   C      12-3    13-4   OAC      Wilmington
GL   03   0.667   0.581   0.499   0.554   0.5818   056   C   033    10-5    11-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   04   0.750   0.526   0.517   0.523   0.5797   060   C   036     6-2    11-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   05   0.813   0.483   0.522   0.496   0.5753   066   A          13-3    13-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   06   0.786   0.468   0.502   0.479   0.5560   095   C   057    11-3    11-4   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   07   0.727   0.503   0.484   0.497   0.5544   097   N/A         8-3    11-7   PrAC     Geneva
GL   08   0.692   0.514   0.484   0.504   0.5512   100   C   061     9-4    13-4   NCAC     Wittenberg
GL   09   0.692   0.475   0.553   0.501   0.5488   106   C   067     9-4    11-6   OAC      Heidelberg


10. Albion
11. Baldwin-Wallace
12. Thomas More
13. Wabash

Geneva is not eligible to be ranked by the NCAA due to their provisional status, so you can go ahead and move everyone behind them up a spot.

KnightSlappy

REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.813   0.525   0.527   0.526   0.5974   031   A   C      13-3    14-4   OAC      Wilmington
GL   02   0.889   0.480   0.507   0.489   0.5889   043   A   C-2     8-1    12-6   MIAA     Calvin
GL   03   0.688   0.582   0.499   0.554   0.5875   047   C   027    11-5    12-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   04   0.778   0.525   0.500   0.517   0.5819   055   C   032     7-2    12-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   05   0.824   0.481   0.516   0.493   0.5755   063   A          14-3    14-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   06   0.800   0.463   0.499   0.475   0.5559   094   C   057    12-3    12-4   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   07   0.714   0.459   0.551   0.490   0.5457   105   C   067    10-4    12-6   OAC      Heidelberg
GL   08   0.722   0.471   0.507   0.483   0.5429   114   A          13-5    13-5   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   09   0.714   0.483   0.490   0.485   0.5425   115   C   075    10-4    14-4   NCAC     Wittenberg
10. Case Western Reserve
11. Albion
12. Baldwin-Wallace


A good sized gap has formed between #6 Penn State-Behrend and #5 Wooster. I think Wooster and above all still have Pool C chances, though Wooster's chances may be pretty slim.

Should Hope beat Calvin on Saturday, they'll find themselves in the thick of the Pool C race (and ahead of the Knights in the rankings).

sac

Wow, look how Calvin's OWP, OOWP, SOS and RPI were affected by playing the now 0-12 in-region Alma Scots Wednesday.

They went from #18 to #43 nationally.

KnightSlappy

#483
Quote from: sac on January 29, 2010, 01:01:49 AM
Wow, look how Calvin's OWP, OOWP, SOS and RPI were affected by playing the now 0-12 in-region Alma Scots Wednesday.

They went from #18 to #43 nationally.

...And it'll really hurt if they "get" to play them in the MIAA tournamnet opening round. The Scots could potentially contribute a solid 0-51 to Calvin's final OWP.

wooscotsfan

Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 28, 2010, 02:07:24 PM
REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.813   0.525   0.527   0.526   0.5974   031   A   C      13-3    14-4   OAC      Wilmington
GL   02   0.889   0.480   0.507   0.489   0.5889   043   A   C-2     8-1    12-6   MIAA     Calvin
GL   03   0.688   0.582   0.499   0.554   0.5875   047   C   027    11-5    12-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   04   0.778   0.525   0.500   0.517   0.5819   055   C   032     7-2    12-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   05   0.824   0.481   0.516   0.493   0.5755   063   A          14-3    14-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   06   0.800   0.463   0.499   0.475   0.5559   094   C   057    12-3    12-4   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   07   0.714   0.459   0.551   0.490   0.5457   105   C   067    10-4    12-6   OAC      Heidelberg
GL   08   0.722   0.471   0.507   0.483   0.5429   114   A          13-5    13-5   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   09   0.714   0.483   0.490   0.485   0.5425   115   C   075    10-4    14-4   NCAC     Wittenberg
10. Case Western Reserve
11. Albion
12. Baldwin-Wallace


A good sized gap has formed between #6 Penn State-Behrend and #5 Wooster. I think Wooster and above all still have Pool C chances, though Wooster's chances may be pretty slim.

Should Hope beat Calvin on Saturday, they'll find themselves in the thick of the Pool C race (and ahead of the Knights in the rankings).

KnightSlappy - Thanks for posting these regular updates for all GL region teams - it is appreciated. k+

KnightSlappy

Here's what the GL Region looks like through the weekend:

REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.800   0.548   0.499   0.532   0.5986   029   A   C       8-2    13-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   02   0.706   0.570   0.500   0.547   0.5868   042   A   C-2    12-5    13-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   03   0.765   0.520   0.525   0.522   0.5827   049   C   027    13-4    14-5   OAC      Wilmington
GL   04   0.800   0.509   0.502   0.507   0.5799   053   C   030     8-2    12-7   MIAA     Calvin
GL   05   0.833   0.465   0.512   0.481   0.5689   071   A          15-3    15-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   06   0.813   0.469   0.498   0.479   0.5624   083   C   048    13-3    13-4   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   07   0.737   0.468   0.506   0.480   0.5445   114   A          14-5    14-5   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   08   0.778   0.440   0.503   0.461   0.5402   119   C   079    14-4    14-5   PrAC     Bethany
GL   09   0.556   0.543   0.508   0.531   0.5374   124   C   084    10-8    11-8   OAC      Baldwin-Wallace
GL   10                                                                                     Ohio Northern
GL   11                                                                                     Wittenberg


Hope did themselves a nice service by beating Calvin on Saturday. Calvin now has some work left to do to climb back into Pool C contention.

I still feel that #5 Wooster on up all have chances for Pool C. Everybody else will need to win their conferences automatic bid to get in.


sac

A better measure of where Hope stands will come Wednesday after playing in-region winless Alma, now 0-13.  Thats a big hit to the numbers.

Thats the lowest rated team remaining on the schedule.

ziggy

Quote from: sac on January 31, 2010, 11:12:10 PM
A better measure of where Hope stands will come Wednesday after playing in-region winless Alma, now 0-13.  Thats a big hit to the numbers.

Thats the lowest rated team remaining on the schedule.

This year more than ever I am realizing the importance of rooting for our MIAA breathren in the non-conference/pre-season portion of the schedule.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: sac on January 31, 2010, 11:12:10 PM
A better measure of where Hope stands will come Wednesday after playing in-region winless Alma, now 0-13.  Thats a big hit to the numbers.

Thats the lowest rated team remaining on the schedule.

You're right...

Plugging in a Hope win and an Alma loss (not touching any other game) brings Hope's RPI down to the 0.579 range, and drops them below Calvin.

Of course, other games will affect the ranking, but it looks like the top 4-5 in the region will have a very tight race.

We also get to see Wilmington vs. John Carroll this week.

sac

Updated through Sunday Jan 31 games

1. Wooster 15-3
2. PSU-Behrend 13-3
3. Hope 8-2
3. Calvin 8-2
-----------------------------------------.800

5. Bethany 14-4
6. Wilmington  13-4
7. Thomas More 14-5
8. Wabash 12-5
8. John Carroll 12-5
-----------------------------------------.700

10. Heidelberg 10-5
10. Wittenberg 10-5
12. Grove City 11-7
-----------------------------------------.600

13. Adrian 7-5
14. Allegheny 8-6
15. Baldwin-Wallace 10-8
15. Capital 10-8
17. Albion 7-6
18. Ohio Wesleyan 9-8

**  3 of the 4 GL conferences have either ties at the top or one game separating 1st from 2nd.

MIAA
1. Calvin 7-1
2. Hope 6-2
3. Adrian 5-3

OAC
1. Wilmington 9-3
1. John Carroll 9-3
3. Ohio Northern 8-4
3. Heidelberg 8-4

PrAC
1. Grove City 7-2
2. Bethany 6-2
2. Thomas More 6-2

NCAC
1. Wooster 10-0
2. Wabash 7-3
2. Allegheny 7-3
2. Ohio Wesleyan 7-3


Key Games

Wednesday
Medaille 19-1 @ PSU-Behrend
Allegheny @ Wooster
Wittenberg @ Ohio Wesleyan
Heidelberg @ Bald Wally

Saturday
Bald Wally @ Capital
Wilmington @ John Carroll
Grove City @ Bethany

Sunday
Wooster @ Wabash








sac

Forgot to add Wilmington begins its 'make or break' stretch for the OAC title with games @JCU, @Ohio Northern, Heidelberg and @Capital in succession starting Saturday.

KnightSlappy

#491
Quote from: KnightSlappy on January 31, 2010, 10:28:02 PM
Here's what the GL Region looks like through the weekend:

REG   #   WP      OWP     OOWP    SOS     RPI      NAT   Pool        REG     OVR   CONF     Team
GL   01   0.800   0.548   0.499   0.532   0.5986   029   A   C       8-2    13-6   MIAA     Hope
GL   02   0.706   0.570   0.500   0.547   0.5868   042   A   C-2    12-5    13-5   OAC      John Carroll
GL   03   0.765   0.520   0.525   0.522   0.5827   049   C   027    13-4    14-5   OAC      Wilmington
GL   04   0.800   0.509   0.502   0.507   0.5799   053   C   030     8-2    12-7   MIAA     Calvin
GL   05   0.833   0.465   0.512   0.481   0.5689   071   A          15-3    15-4   NCAC     Wooster
GL   06   0.813   0.469   0.498   0.479   0.5624   083   C   048    13-3    13-4   AMCC     Penn State-Behrend
GL   07   0.737   0.468   0.506   0.480   0.5445   114   A          14-5    14-5   PrAC     Thomas More
GL   08   0.778   0.440   0.503   0.461   0.5402   119   C   079    14-4    14-5   PrAC     Bethany
GL   09   0.556   0.543   0.508   0.531   0.5374   124   C   084    10-8    11-8   OAC      Baldwin-Wallace
GL   10                                                                                     Ohio Northern
GL   11                                                                                     Wittenberg


The NCAA's first regional rankings come out today, ranking the top 6 in the region.

Here's my guess at what we'll see:

1. Hope (MIAA) -- A solid SOS and a nice win percentage to go with it. Two wins against ranked Calvin will also help them out.

2. Wilmington (OAC) -- Their win head to head with John Carroll will likely keep them ahead of the Blue Streaks... for now.

3. John Carroll (OAC) -- They've beaten Wooster, and their tough schedule should boost them despite their less than desired win percentage.

4. Calvin (MIAA) -- Calvin's one win over Hope, a tougher schedule, and win over Albion (common opponent) should keep them ahead of Wooster. The win over likely Midwest ranked Carthage would also help in the secondary criteria, should it come to that.

5. Wooster (NCAC) -- Wooster's got the best win percentage in the region, but they have had a relatively easy schedule to date, and don't own a win over any of the other ranked GL teams.

6. Penn State-Behrend (AMCC) -- They've got a nice win percentage, but the cupcake schedule and lack of a quality win will keep them low.

Thomas More may sneak in replacing PSU-B at the #6 spot via their win over Wilmington, but I think the Behrend Lions have enough of a buffer right now that that won't happen.

John Carroll and Calvin could trade places depending on how highly the regional committee values win percentage over schedule difficulty.

ziggy

#492
Great Lakes Region - Feb. 3
1. Wooster 15-3
2. Wilmington (Ohio) 13-4
3. Hope 8-2
4. Calvin 8-2
5. Penn State-Behrend 13-3
6. Thomas More 14-5

First glance tells me it is all about the record with this committee.
http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/020310aae.html

sac

Wilmington's in-region win % is lower than Hope and Calvin.......and their SOS is lower than Hope.

head to head
Hope beat Calvin
Calvin beat Hope
Hope beat Calvin
Wilmington lost to Thomas More

results vs common in-region opponents
Wilmington beat Ohio Northern
Calvin beat Ohio Northern

Wooster lost to Albion
Calvin beat Albion
Hope beat Albion

Hope beat Alma
Calvin beat Alma

Hope beat Adrian
Calvin beat Adrian

Hope beat Kalamazoo
Calvin beat Kalamazoo

Olivet beat Hope
Calvin beat Olivet

Hope beat Trine
Calvin beat Trine


results vs reginally ranked teams
Wilmington lost to Thomas More
Hope beat Wheaton
Carthage beat Hope
Calvin beat Carthage
Wheaton beat Calvin
Hope beat Calvin
Calvin beat Hope
Hope beat Calvin


<shrugs>

ScotsFan

Maybe body of work might come into play a bit?  Wooster has played 8 more regional games than both Hope and Calvin and only has one more loss while having a whopping 7 more wins.  And the majority of Hope's and Calvin's regional opponents are also conference opponents.  Not so for the others in the regional rankings.  And that SOS you're referring to has only been bolstered by the fact that Calvin and Hope have played each other 3 times?!  Of their miniscule 10 regional games each has played, 3 of those 10 have been against each other which totally pads the stats from a SOS perspective IMO.  Maybe the NCAA is taking note of that?

Besides, Calvin's loss tonight should put an end to them being in the discussion for now...