Great Lakes Region

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GREAT LAKES
1 Wooster 18-2 21-2
2 Hope 14-1 18-5
3 Marietta 18-2 21-2
4 Penn State-Behrend 20-2 20-3
5 Wittenberg 14-3 17-5
6 Thiel 14-3 17-6

[Flying Dutch Fan]

GREAT LAKES
1 Wooster 18-2 21-2
2 Hope 14-1 18-5
3 Marietta 18-2 21-2
4 Penn State-Behrend 20-2 20-3
5 Wittenberg 14-3 17-5
6 Thiel 14-3 17-6


ziggy - looks that way to me too

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What is Behrend's  wSOS and wRPI compared to these others.

It simply can't be good.

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What is Behrend's  wSOS and wRPI compared to these others.

It simply can't be good.

Marietta doesn't have a great wRPI either. Neither school is in the Great Lakes' top nine for wRPI. Both have very good WP so you can figure how bad their wSOS must be to knock them down.

The weighting of the SOS makes wRPI goofy, though. Olivet looks good wRPI wise (5th in GL Region) due to a 0.589 wSOS despite a 0.533 WP.

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I'm willing to give Marietta a pass because the OAC has traditionally been at least a good conference, the AMCC has never been a good conference.

[ziggy]

I'm willing to give Marietta a pass because the OAC has traditionally been at least a good conference, the AMCC has never been a good conference.

True, plus Marietta concludes the regular season with games at Capital and at John Carroll. That will be a boost to their SOS.

Marietta's non-conference in region schedule included three home games and one road game so they started in an SOS hole to begin with.

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Massey's schedule ratings has its faults, but geez a schedule of #375 out of 411 teams is just kind of pathetic.

At least Marietta's in the top half of D3.

[KnightSlappy]

At least they're being fair across the regions. My new best fit curve ranks the GL as:

Wooster
Hope
Witt
Marietta
Behrend
Thiel

So they're only "switching" Witt and Marietta.

I'm using:

0.5 x WP + 0.49 x SOS + 0.002 x (# of regionally ranked games) + 0.005 (pct. versus regionally ranked) + 0.05 x d3RPI

when comparing actual ranking to computed ranking, this a trendline using this equation gives a slope of 0.8269 and an r-squared coefficient of 0.8693. Not bad.

[pennstghs]

With a possible win by Witt tonight, they should in all honesty be no lower than 4th. I think its a bunch of bull-honkey they're still rated 5th.

[ziggy]

With a possible win by Witt tonight, they should in all honesty be no lower than 4th. I think its a bunch of bull-honkey they're still rated 5th.

On which primary criteria do you think they are being short-changed?

[ScotsFan]

With a possible win by Witt tonight, they should in all honesty be no lower than 4th. I think its a bunch of bull-honkey they're still rated 5th.

On which primary criteria do you think they are being short-changed?

I would say wins over regionally ranked opponents would be a start.  Witt has wins over Wooster and Wabash.  PSU-B has a win over LaRoche.  

And I'm just guessing that Witt's SOS is a bit higher than PSU-B's as well?


Now if you will excuse me, I need to go check my temp as there must be something wrong with me seeing as how I am defending Witt...   

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Albion beat Hope tonight, I think this makes it nearly impossible for Wooster to not be the #1 team in the region if they take care of business.........and today's poll suggests they even have a 1 loss wiggle room probably.

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Wabash beats Wittenberg

Capital beat Marietta

Too tired to figure all the ramifications of this stuff, but suffice it to say.....a wild night in the region.

That was a very big must win for Wabash and Pool C hopes I do know that.

[KnightSlappy]

Wabash beats Wittenberg

Capital beat Marietta

Too tired to figure all the ramifications of this stuff, but suffice it to say.....a wild night in the region.

That was a very big must win for Wabash and Pool C hopes I do know that.

It'll be Wooster, then Hope, then the next four teams that get pulled out of a hat.

I think a win over Oberlin would lead pipe lock up a Pool C for Wabash.

[kiltedbryan]

Albion beat Hope tonight, I think this makes it nearly impossible for Wooster to not be the #1 team in the region if they take care of business.........and today's poll suggests they even have a 1 loss wiggle room probably.

And Marietta and Wittenberg also lost. A bit of breathing room potentially opened up in the GL rankings for Wooster, as Seinfeld noted in the NCAC room.

Regular season championship and hosting rights now come down to Saturday's results in the NCAC. Neither Wooster (hosting OWU) and Wittenberg (at Hiram) have automatic wins on Saturday—both of those games could be tough battles. As Wittenberg and Hiram play at 3 p.m., Wooster will know the situation going into its 7:30 p.m. contest.

[Edit: I see the other losses had been noted...]