Great Lakes Region

[sac]

UPDATED for Thursday games



Northcoast
Tuesday, Feb. 22                 
#8 Allegheny 57 at #1 Wooster 62                
#7 Denison 63 at #2 Wittenberg 77         
#6 Kenyon 61 at #3 Wabash 72                    
#5 Hiram 85 at #4 Ohio Wesleyan 100


Friday, Feb. 25
at Wooster
#3 Wabash vs #2 Wittenberg, 6pm
#4 Ohio Wesleyan vs #1 Wooster, 8pm
   

Saturday, Feb. 26     
7:00 at Wooster



Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association
First Round - Wednesday, February 23
#8 Alma 77 at #1 Hope 110
#7 Trine 65 at #2 Calvin 72
#6 Kalamazoo 66 at #3 Albion 76 2OT
#5 Adrian 67 at #4 Olivet 64 2OT

Semifinals - Friday, February 25 at Hope College, Holland, MI
#3 Albion vs #2 Calvin 6 p.m.
#5 Adrian at #1 Hope 8:15 p.m.

Championship - Saturday, February 26
At Hope College, 7:30 p.m.


Ohio Athletic Conference
Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2011

Game 1: #8 Wilmington 73 at #1 Marietta College 84
Game 2: #7 Mount Union 68 at #2 John Carroll 75
Game 3: #6 Otterbein 47 at #3 Capital 76
Game 4: #5 Heidelberg 80 at #4 Ohio Northern 77  2OT

OAC Semifinals: Thursday, Feb. 24, 2011 • All Game Times TBA
Game 5: #5 Heidelberg 55 at #1 Marietta 70
Game 6: #3 Capital 74 at #2 John Carroll 81

OAC Finals: Saturday, Feb. 26, 2011 • 7:30 p.m.
#2 John Carroll at #1 Marietta



Presidents Athletic Conference
First Round - Tuesday, February 22, 2011

#8 Waynesburg 53 at #1 Thiel 73
#5 Thomas More 58 at #4 W&J 57
#7 Grove City 54 at #2 Saint Vincent 72
#6 Westminster 58 at #3 Bethany 90

Semifinals - Thursday, February 24, 2011
#5 Thomas More 65 at #1 Thiel 78
#3 Bethany 66 at #2 Saint Vencent 65

Finals - Saturday, February 26, 2011
#3 Bethany at #1 Thiel- 7:30 p.m.



AMCC
First Round - Tuesday, Feb. 22 - 7p
#5 Mount Aloysius 60 at #4 Hilbert 102
#6 Pitt-Bradford 85 at #3 Medaille 97

Semifinals - Friday, Feb. 25
Hosted by La Roche
1p: #4 Hilbert  vs. #1 La Roche
3p: #3 Medaile vs #2 PSU-Behrend


(fixed a score typo, no biggie...dc)

[seinfeld]

Question for those who are crunching the numbers. What are the odds that anyone in the GL region passes by Wooster in the eyes of the committee (for potential hosting purposes) if the Scots lose to Wittenberg tonight, and who between Marietta, Penn St. Behrend and Hope has the best chance to do so?

[ziggy]

Question for those who are crunching the numbers. What are the odds that anyone in the GL region passes by Wooster in the eyes of the committee (for potential hosting purposes) if the Scots lose to Wittenberg tonight, and who between Marietta, Penn St. Behrend and Hope has the best chance to do so?

So much of it depends on how that NCAA configures the bracket. There is no guarantee that Hope would actually play in a a "Great Lakes" pod and PSU-B may be swept eastward. It just depends on how the pods take shape nationally.

This may be a good time to point out that the NCAA has historically not had any issues sending Calvin and Hope into a "Midwest" pod despite the rigid insistence that such games are not regional games in the regular season. I understand the standards are different for bracketing but, to me, this is one more example of why the regional model is broken for Calvin and Hope.

[monsoon]

Question for those who are crunching the numbers. What are the odds that anyone in the GL region passes by Wooster in the eyes of the committee (for potential hosting purposes) if the Scots lose to Wittenberg tonight, and who between Marietta, Penn St. Behrend and Hope has the best chance to do so?

So much of it depends on how that NCAA configures the bracket. There is no guarantee that Hope would actually play in a a "Great Lakes" pod and PSU-B may be swept eastward. It just depends on how the pods take shape nationally.

This may be a good time to point out that the NCAA has historically not had any issues sending Calvin and Hope into a "Midwest" pod despite the rigid insistence that such games are not regional games in the regular season. I understand the standards are different for bracketing but, to me, this is one more example of why the regional model is broken for Calvin and Hope.

Women have hosting priority on the first weekend this year, so Hope's men will likely be on the road regardless of how the final regional rankings stack up (because Hope's women will probably host).

Ziggy - I couldn't agree more.

[KnightSlappy]

Question for those who are crunching the numbers. What are the odds that anyone in the GL region passes by Wooster in the eyes of the committee (for potential hosting purposes) if the Scots lose to Wittenberg tonight, and who between Marietta, Penn St. Behrend and Hope has the best chance to do so?

So much of it depends on how that NCAA configures the bracket. There is no guarantee that Hope would actually play in a a "Great Lakes" pod and PSU-B may be swept eastward. It just depends on how the pods take shape nationally.

This may be a good time to point out that the NCAA has historically not had any issues sending Calvin and Hope into a "Midwest" pod despite the rigid insistence that such games are not regional games in the regular season. I understand the standards are different for bracketing but, to me, this is one more example of why the regional model is broken for Calvin and Hope.

Women have hosting priority on the first weekend this year, so Hope's men will likely be on the road regardless of how the final regional rankings stack up (because Hope's women will probably host).

Ziggy - I couldn't agree more.

Unless the Calvin women beat them today. Then I could see Calvin getting the host on the Women's side.

[monsoon]

Unless the Calvin women beat them today. Then I could see Calvin getting the host on the Women's side.

The women's bracket usually does a better job of moving teams around; I expect Hope and Calvin to be in different "pods" the first weekend regardless of who wins this afternoon so they could both host.  But your right; the loser probably hits the road.

If it was the men's bracket, they'd almost certainly be lumped together in the same "pod" (i.e. @ Aurora a few years ago).

[sac]

Should Benedictine win the Nathcon tonight, I think they would be a prime candidate to host based on their central location in Chicago.  Not sure about their record and other credentials.

You could easily place an Indiana, Michigan and Wisconsin school there without much trouble. 

[kiltedbryan]

Potentially bad news for GL region Pool C hopefuls...

At the half:
John Carroll 49
Marietta 28

[kiltedbryan]

69-69 all, Marietta has come back from over 20 down to tie JCU with 6:30 to go.

Live feed: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/marietta-college-athletics

83-82 JCU with 1:19 left. Marietta ball.

85-83 Marietta after a 3 by Worstell.
85-85 JCU answers with a driving bucket.  36.5 left, Marietta ball with a full shot clock.

Timeout Marietta. They'll basically be able to hold for a shot to win. Marietta beat JCU on a buzzer-beater about a week ago.

Inbounds....Marietta killing time...

Halter drains a jumper, nearly a 3 but he wasn't quite over the line.

87-85 Marietta, 2.7 seconds left. JCU to inbound under the Marietta hoop.

EDIT: Officials confer and they credit it as a three.  88-85 Marietta. Also revised the time to 4.1 seconds.

JCU inbounds to half court and calls time. 3.4 seconds left.

The JCU three goes wanting at the buzzer.

Congratulations to the Marietta Pioneers on its first-ever OAC Tournament Title and the tremendous comeback!

[David Collinge]

I've seen worse games.

[seinfeld]

It is definitely worth pointing out that Bethany beat Thiel tonight. I'm guessing Thiel, although I don't think they are better than either Witt or Wabash, is probably going to get a bid over them.

[David Collinge]

Penn St. Erie, the Behrend College also lost tonight.  Gotta be happy for LaRoche.  What a season they've had.

[ScotsFan]

So with both Thiel and PSU-B not getting the A-bids from the GL Region, does that put both Wabash and Witt on the outside looking in?  Thiel was already ahead of Wabash in the last GL Regional poll and Wabash hurt themselves losing in the semis while Thiel made it to the PrAC finals.  And as for Witt, I wonder how much ground they had to make up after losing their last 2 games of the regular season.  Just making it to the NCAC finals might not have been enough to make up the ground they lost.

[sac]

So with both Thiel and PSU-B not getting the A-bids from the GL Region, does that put both Wabash and Witt on the outside looking in?  Thiel was already ahead of Wabash in the last GL Regional poll and Wabash hurt themselves losing in the semis while Thiel made it to the PrAC finals.  And as for Witt, I wonder how much ground they had to make up after losing their last 2 games of the regular season.  Just making it to the NCAC finals might not have been enough to make up the ground they lost.

I think Wabash is out, not very many Pool C's have ever lost in their conference semi-finals and still received a bid.

At least when it comes to SOS, I think Thiel's loss to Bethany was worse than Witt losing to Wooster.  I would think Witt moved ahead of Thiel with their NCAC tournament performance.

The GL committee seems pretty set in their belief PSU-Behrend is worthy of being considered for a Pool C bid based on their ranking last week.  They will probably only drop behind Hope.

The trouble for Witt is going to be they will likely be behind PSU-B and their very week SOS/RPI it could be awhile before PSU-B is taken off the Pool C table meaning Witt will probably be near the last group of teams to be looked at.

[KnightSlappy]

I think Witt's in.

I'm just beginning my final projections, and with 2 upset possibilities remaining, they appear to be safe.

Wabash looks to be out.