Great Lakes Region

Started by sac, February 21, 2007, 06:46:48 PM

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smedindy

#1620
The NCAC was 46-24 in non-conference. The NCAC was 8-1 against the OAC if I counted right.

Mind you, they were 4-0 against Otterbein, and some of the NCAC scheduled some interesting teams, as it were.
Wabash Always Fights!

Ohigy

#1621
I don't think Marietta or the NCAC "powers" were ducking anyone.   Wooster played Mount Union and St Vincent while OWU went on the road to Calvin, Hope, and Trine.  I think defiance and OWU also played each other.  Everyone presumed Otterbein would be much better.  the Cardinals are the biggest disappointment in the OAC.  Let's hope all the top Ohio teams win in the NCAA tourney and meet in the later rounds to see who is the best.

ettaexpress

Quote from: smedindy on February 07, 2015, 12:58:16 PM
Maybe Marietta didn't want to schedule them either? If you're making accusations bring some proof.

Try to follow. I'm not the one making the accusations about anyone re: Denison and who they did or didn't want to play. St. Vincent and Hanover are usually contenders in their league, Denison usually isn't. There were two teams there that beat Wooster and Marietta is better than both of them.

Again, it's only half of the NCAC that are in the 'ducking Marietta' mix. Just because teams don't play each other every year doesn't mean someone is ducking the other. Wabash didn't play Hanover this year - are they DUCKING the Panthers? Schedules just didn't work out.

And again to you, everyone in the NCAC decided at once not to play Marietta after MC had been scheduling 2-3 of them a year since Vanderwal started making the schedule.

Whatever. Going for blackjack today.

smedindy

#1623
If there's anything I know from a decade plus of watching the NCAC, they don't co-ordinate ANYTHING. There's no insidious plot to not schedule Marietta.

You still haven't answered why Marietta didn't schedule any NCAC teams in his first season as coach, when they were awful? Could it be just normal variance of scheduling?

I looked as far as D3 hoops has, in the past few years from 15 back to 07: 0, 3, 3, 3, 1,1,3,0,0 :

In 2014 and 2013 they were in tourneys where they played an NCAC team - in 14 at Defiance and 13 at Wooster.

As a normal course, Marietta isn't a long-time for-sure-must-play game for NCAC in non-conference. They're someone to call when they have holes, and Denison locked them up for a few years it seems for schedule certainty. But that contract ran out, it seems, and Denison went to play at their tourney instead. Plus, why complain Dension is ducking Marietta? It's not like the Big Red helps a lot in SOS or RRs.

And there's travel  - it's easier to get to Otterbein and Capital than Marietta. Sometimes that's a factor.

Why complain though, they played Eastern Connecticut...that's definitely better for them than Denison.
Wabash Always Fights!

ettaexpress

Dude, give up. You've completely lost the plot. Reread the thread and catch up.

I can't think of one thing you've got right.

smedindy

#1625
How? By using facts and asking you to prove your spurious allegations? I just looked at schedules, my friend. And the schedules don't say if they did or did not DUCK Marietta. There was a run where three teams played Marietta, but not before that time and not after. And in two of those seasons, they played Marietta in a in-season tourney where it wasn't pre-ordained they play each other.
Wabash Always Fights!

ettaexpress

I guess if you play someone in a tournament, it doesn't count to you.

Again, give up. You're making a fool of yourself.

smedindy

#1627
I didn't say that at all; I said that it wasn't an OUTRIGHT scheduled game and in tournaments, sometimes you miss teams...
Wabash Always Fights!

Mr. Ypsi

Smed, it might be best to just ignore TGHIJGSTO, Jr.  Since this is not a game played with bats and gloves, he doesn't know how to handle winning. ;)

ettaexpress

Quote from: smedindy on February 07, 2015, 04:04:56 PM
I didn't say that at all; I said that it wasn't an OUTRIGHT scheduled game and in tournaments, sometimes you miss teams...

And I'm saying that doesn't matter at all.

Marietta turning on the style against Wilmington. I bet there's at least one automatic vote on the committee for MC as #1.

ettaexpress

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 07, 2015, 04:12:28 PM
Smed, it might be best to just ignore TGHIJGSTO, Jr.  Since this is not a game played with bats and gloves, he doesn't know how to handle winning. ;)

I don't really appreciate that or think I did anything to deserve it. All I did was give an opinion and everyone has climbed on and dinged me from there. Am I supposed to just let them get away with poor analysis and ridiculous reasoning without giving anything back? I guess so, because they're from the mighty NCAC and apparently I should just shut up.

I would say some people here don't know how to handle being told they're wrong. Case already lost this week, so would love to hear the reasoning behind Marietta not being #1 now.

That's what this is all about, someone that apparently is a deity being told they're wrong.


ettaexpress

Blackjack.

I hope you all are right and somehow the committee doesn't put Marietta #1, even though it would be a travesty. Nothing would motivate this team more going into the very tough road trips they have coming up. They seem to revel in adversity. After a terrible foul call and technical foul, Marietta went on like a 20-2 run sparked by the kid that started the year as the #5 post player.

Wilmington actually played pretty well and tried pretty much everything. Marietta's just a lot better than them.

ettaexpress

Keep up with the -k s, eunuchs. Our passion makes us strong, your hate makes us stronger.

sac

#1633
Bump...for no reason whatsoever.

Last night's results, today and Sunday's games.  Most meaningful games are Mt. St Joseph/Defiance (winner gets upperhand in HCAC) and Washington at Case Western Sunday.


Friday 1/30
Washington @ Carnegie-Mellon (8-7)
Chicago @ Case Western (11-3)

Saturday 1/31
Pitt-Greensburg (11-9) @ Medaille (14-5)
Thomas More (13-6) @ Thiel (9-6)
Defiance (14-5) @ Mt. St. Joseph (14-5)
Anderson (10-9) @ Transylvania (11-8)
Hope (12-6) @ Albion (9-8)
Denison (12-8) @ Wooster (16-4)

Sunday 2/1
Chicago @ Carnegie-Mellon (8-7)
Washington @ Case Western (11-3)

ettaexpress

OAC apparently isn't in the region anymore. Now I get why Marietta won't be the top ranked.