Great Lakes Region

[Fifth and Putnam]

Which reminds me, does anyone know what time the Selection Show is Monday? I'd like to book a conference room here at work so I can watch it in peace. 

[KnightSlappy]

I don't think there's a single Atlantic region team deserving of a host. I could see the East region maybe only getting one. NE often needs a third, but I could see three in the Central and three in the GL as long as they can get teams within 500 miles.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

To be blunt... don't expect more than two pods. The committee will try and have two hosts per region - since that is 16 hosts and you need 16 on the Saturday.

It gets complicated when the South, for example, may need an extra (as they did in 2014) with Texas involved. It also gets complicated if say the West needed a third (though, I doubt it this year) with Whitworth stealing a host when they are not ranked as high.

When you start to see third hosts is when the women have priority hosting ... then say a pod that featured a team in another region gets moved to that team when the original host was scrapped. But again, that ends up taking from the other region giving them one ... though it would start to trickle down with other moves.

All things staying even:
- the Northeast will have two hosts
- no reason for the East not to have two (Plattsburgh and Rochester)
- I can't imagine the Mid-Atlantic (CNU and Susquehanna) having two
- the South will be interesting, but expect a Texas host and then it gets interesting if they can pull off a second host (will depend on who gets AQs and such)
- the West will probably be two: Whitworth and St. Thomas
- leaving four bids for the Central and Great Lakes.

If the South doesn't need or can't create a second host (CNU will help alleviate some pressure), that will free up a bid that could come to the Central and Great Lakes.. but also considering the number of teams that may be in the tournament from the northeast (Maryland to New York to Maine), they may need a third host somewhere as well.

Again, I just don't think betting on three hosts in a year where men have priority is something to bank on. In 2014, the GL and Central only had two hosts each (UWW and UWSP were considered West).

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

I don't think there's a single Atlantic region team deserving of a host. I could see the East region maybe only getting one. NE often needs a third, but I could see three in the Central and three in the GL as long as they can get teams within 500 miles.

It isn't how they do it... they do it based on the fact that two from each region is their hope to host. Look at the 2014 bracket as an example: http://static.psbin.com/x/v/c2nubj6x991jbt/2014-mbb-bracket.pdf

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Which reminds me, does anyone know what time the Selection Show is Monday? I'd like to book a conference room here at work so I can watch it in peace. 

12:30 PM ET for Men
2:30 PM ET for Women

Hope the equipment is updated with it's warranty in case I break it.

[KnightSlappy]

I think its pretty clear Hope is behind JCU/OWU for good.  Nothing is going to happen this week in Hope's criteria to change that.

I'm not sure that's true. By RPI those three are in a virtual tie. The committee took the teams that are 3-2 vRRO instead of the team that's 1-1.

Add in a win over Alma and make that number 2-1, that could push them over the top. Especially if either (or both) fall to 3-3.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Something to keep in mind, they don't look at the raw vRRO number.. they really do look at the games themselves, the opponents, where those opponents are ranked, etc. They try and peel as much of that onion as they can.

Trust me when I say, when they also get into secondary criteria - and I am gathering they are going to secondary criteria often - they are diving into as much data as they can to figure out who deserves to be ranked where. While SOS and WL certainly seem to take precedent... my conversations with people end up starting there and then diving into many other places for a case to be made.

[KnightSlappy]

I don't think there's a single Atlantic region team deserving of a host. I could see the East region maybe only getting one. NE often needs a third, but I could see three in the Central and three in the GL as long as they can get teams within 500 miles.

It isn't how they do it... they do it based on the fact that two from each region is their hope to host. Look at the 2014 bracket as an example: http://static.psbin.com/x/v/c2nubj6x991jbt/2014-mbb-bracket.pdf

But they don't always give two to each. A quick look back says the South had three hosts last year and the East had one.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Yes, but I am willing to bet those South region ones have been forced by Texas in the past. That is what I described above. Also with the women having priority last year, it added some wrinkles. That is why I referenced 2014's bracket since it is similar in the fact that the men have priority.

[sac]

Great Lakes Pool C's

2008--Capital, Wooster
2009--Capital, Carnegie-Mellon
2010--John Carroll
2011--Wittenberg, PSU-Behrend
2012--Wittenberg, Ohio Wesleyan
2013--Wooster
2014--Hope, Wittenberg, Ohio Wesleyan
2015--Marietta, John Carroll, Ohio Wesleyan, Wooster

HCAC teams  Anderson(2010), Hanover(2011), Transylvania(2012, 2013) received Pool C's from the Midwest Region.

NCAC--9
OAC--5
MIAA--1
UAA--1
AMCC--1
PAC--0
HCAC--4 (all from Midwest Region)


Probably in line for 2 or 3 this year

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[sac]

Pac Semi's

#4 Thomas More over #2 Bethany
#1 St. Vincent over #7 Westminster

Thomas More at St. Vincent Saturday


OAC
#1 Marietta over #4 Baldwin-Wallace big
#2 John Carroll over #3 Mt. Union

#2 John Carroll at #1 Marietta  Saturday,  teams split the season series.



What to do with Mt. Union who logs loss number 9?  We'll find out in the super-secret invisible rankings on Sunday.

[Mr. Ypsi]

IMO, Mt. Union is dead and buried.  If only it were so easy in football!

[KnightSlappy]

I think Mt. Union will stay ranked in the region, but their near-zero chance at a Pool C just hit zero.

[sac]

Mount Union was done for Pool C when they lost to Muskingum