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goscots

#90
February 25, 2007, 12:46:56 PM
Using the projeced field by D3Hoops and the regional rankings by Scotsbrod above, I would guess the pairings to be:

1 Lake Erie 
bye

@ Capital, winner to Lake Eire
5 Calvin
6 Capital


@ Wooster

2 Wooster
7 Westminster (Pa.)

3 Hope
4 Centre

sac

#91
February 25, 2007, 12:48:30 PM
Your original point:   I agree the Allegheny loss killed Wittenberg much more than the loss to OWU.  Beat 'gheny and lose to OWU, Witts probably much more in the 'C' picture, but still not in great shape.

David Collinge

#92
February 25, 2007, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: sac on February 25, 2007, 12:48:30 PM
Your original point:   I agree the Allegheny loss killed Wittenberg much more than the loss to OWU.  Beat 'gheny and lose to OWU, Witts probably much more in the 'C' picture, but still not in great shape.

I didn't say that the Allegheny loss killed Wittenberg, so you're not agreeing with me.  What I did say was:

Quote from: David Collinge on February 25, 2007, 12:47:03 AMTo accumulate such a total, you really can't afford any slip-ups, like Witt's losses to Allegheny and OWU.  Even if they had beaten Allegheny, their QoWI would be just 9.545, as that win would have pushed 'Gheny down below .500.  In order to feel confident of a Pool C bid, Witt would have had to convert two of those four losses to wins--in other words, to go 19-3 in-region. 

All other things being equal, if Witt beats Allegheny, they still sit at home next week.  If they had beaten OWU this weekend, or back in January, they'd be in better shape, with a QoWI of 9.727, but still firmly on the bubble.  To get off the bubble and into the tournament, they'd needed to have won two of these three games...or have swept Wooster.

wooscotsfan

#93
February 25, 2007, 01:16:30 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on February 25, 2007, 12:34:15 PM
The difference, such as it is, is that Wooster tends to get the job done against their NCAC foes; they are less prone to the slip-up than their Springfield counterparts.  It's not that the Scots schedule better, it's that they almost never lose to the "Dorksen Eight" teams.

"Dorksen Eight" -- hilarious!   Would that be a "dork" or a certain newspaper writer that assembled that list?  :) :P

David - you are quite right that Wooster rarely slips up against the rest of the NCAC.  Since the 2001-2002 season, Wooster has only two losses to any NCAC team other than Wittenberg (Wabash in 2001-2002 and OWU last season).

smedindy

#94
February 25, 2007, 02:37:06 PM
There's trouble in River City for any "C" since Amherst and WPI lost.
Wabash Always Fights!

ScotsFan

#95
February 25, 2007, 04:02:39 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on February 25, 2007, 01:16:30 PM
David - you are quite right that Wooster rarely slips up against the rest of the NCAC.  Since the 2001-2002 season, Wooster has only two losses to any NCAC team other than Wittenberg (Wabash in 2001-2002 and OWU last season).
wooscotsfan,

You can actually go back even farther than that.  You have to go all the way back to the '96-'97 season to find a season where Wooster lost multiple games to NCAC foes not named Witt!  After that season, Wooster didn't lose to anyone other than Witt in the regular season until Wabash got them in '02.  So they have actually lost only 2 conference games to NCAC teams not named Witt since the '97-'98 season! :o  Note, they did lose to Allegheny in the conference finals in 1998 but still made the tournament at large.

ScotsFan

#96
February 25, 2007, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: goscots on February 25, 2007, 12:46:56 PM
Using the projeced field by D3Hoops and the regional rankings by Scotsbrod above, I would guess the pairings to be:

1 Lake Erie 
bye

@ Capital, winner to Lake Eire
5 Calvin
6 Capital


@ Wooster

2 Wooster
7 Westminster (Pa.)

3 Hope
4 Centre

Personally, I'm hoping Wooster gets a rematch with last year's first round opponent, Transy.  Only this time it will be in Timken!  I'd like to see Westminster take out LEC in a 1st round matchup as well!!! 8) ;D

David Collinge

#97
February 25, 2007, 04:08:20 PM
Wooster lost to Transy in the second round last year.  In the first round the Scots beat Randolph-Macon.

ScotsFan

#98
February 25, 2007, 04:11:23 PM
First round, second round, I still want Trany!!!

sac

#99
February 25, 2007, 04:12:41 PM
Quote from: ScotsFan on February 25, 2007, 04:11:23 PM
First round, second round, I still want Trany!!!

Gotta be a bit carefull with how you phrase that......ya know. ;)

ChicagoHopeNut

#100
February 25, 2007, 04:31:44 PM
Good news for Hope and John Carroll as John Hopkins held on to beat Haverford in the Centential Conference tourney.  Centre also has a 12 point half time lead while Mississippi College has a 61-53 lead with about 4 minutes left.
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pennstghs

#101
February 25, 2007, 05:18:38 PM
transy is not as strong as a team this year-i think if wooster were to get them at home they wouldn't have much trouble at all with them
WE ARE.................PENN STATE!
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ScotsFan

#102
February 25, 2007, 05:34:33 PM
I just want Transy strictly on a revenge basis because  they knocked  Wooster out of the tournament last year and it would be nice if the Scots could return the favor to the Pios!!!  Really, the biggest thing I want is for Wooster to be hosting as long as they possibly can.  I'm banking on them being home this coming weekend, and if they can get through that game or games, I'm hoping they get the sectional as well, regardless of who they play. 

Speaking of a possible matchup with Westminster, this season was the 1st time since the 2000-2001 season that this series wasn't renewed for a regular season matchup.  I'm not sure what was behind this series not being renewed, but seeing as how my alma mater has gone 0-6 vs. Wooster in that span, I would guess they had a bit of a say in not renewing things with the Scots.  Wouldn't it be ironic that they still got to face off anyways in the post-season?

kiltedbryan

#103
February 25, 2007, 11:42:56 PM
Quote from: goscots on February 25, 2007, 12:46:56 PM
Using the projeced field by D3Hoops and the regional rankings by Scotsbrod above, I would guess the pairings to be:

1 Lake Erie 
bye

@ Capital, winner to Lake Eire
5 Calvin
6 Capital


@ Wooster

2 Wooster
7 Westminster (Pa.)

3 Hope
4 Centre


I thought that in the GL bracket it's pretty rare to get byes because none of the teams tend to be that geographically challenged.  Lake Erie could draw someone to the east/mid-atlantic?  For that matter, so could Woo?

sac

#104
February 25, 2007, 11:55:06 PM
Centre, DePauw, Transylvania and even Maryville are in a reasonable distance to Ohio.  Not so much Centre and Maryville....but within reason.

We shouldn't forget these teams, 1 or 2 might end up playing a GL team.

Last year the tournament seemed to make its best effort at moving teams around.........sending North Central to Minnesota, and UW-LaCrosse to Michigan even though each was much closer to the others location.

I still like one of the MIAA's to go to Chicago with Aurora, Chicago and Carroll

That leaves an odd set of GL teams which opens up a bye for Wooster or Lake Erie (god forbid)..........and brings in the possibility of seeing a DePauw, Transylvania, Centre in our Region, to go with JCU and Capital
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