Great Lakes Region

[Hugenerd]

The "East" that Rochester is in is an "evaluation region," one of 8 (Great Lakes is another.)  Rochester and CMU are also in "administrative region 2," which encompasses New York and Pennsylvania.

http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php?question=44

Thanks, I guess I missed the fine print.

[smedindy]

Key matchups
Wed:  #8 Wabash @ #9 Ohio Wesleyan
Fri: #5 Carnegie-Mellon @ #9 national  Washington U
Sat:  #8 Wabash @ #2 Wooster

(make or break week for Wabash?)

Yep, it's time to get it done or go home for the LGs.

[kiltedbryan]

It's extra important for Wabash to come away with some road NCAC wins because Bash already has two home NCAC losses (Witt and Woo).  OWU has one (Woo), and Woo and Witt haven't lost at home in the NCAC so far. Also, a win tonight over OWU would give Bash the season sweep of the Bishops.

Hopefully I'm not jinxing them when I point it out, but Wooster is the only NCAC team that hasn't lost any home games this year (9-0). Glancing at the schedule, it looks like Hope hasn't lost at DeVos yet, either.

[David Collinge]

It's extra important for Wabash to come away with some road NCAC wins because Bash already has two home NCAC losses (Witt and Woo).  OWU has one (Woo), and Woo and Witt haven't lost at home in the NCAC so far.

And Kenyon only has lost one as well (OWU), with Witt the only formidable team yet to visit Gambier.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

First official NCAA rankings coming out in 2 days!

[sac]

Great Lakes Region Poll --Week 5 how they fared

1. Hope (4) 17-3, 12-2.................won Olivet 86-58; won @ Kzoo 74-58
2. Wooster (5) 18-3, 11-2............won Hiram 104-61; won Wabash 83-71
3. Capital (1) 18-3, 17-3..............won @ Marietta 82-48; won Muskingum 72-66
4. Wittenberg 15-6, 14-4.............won Earlham 70-54; won Allegheny 78-66
5. Carnegie-Mellon 13-7, 10-6.....lost @ Wash U 68-79; lost @ Chicago 78-97
6. Heidelberg 16-5, 14-4..............lost @ Bald-Wally 84-87; won Marietta 93-66
7. Albion 14-5, 10-3......................won Kzoo 80-54; won @ Olivet 59-43
8. Wabash 13-8, 10-6..................lost @ Ohio Wesl 57-96; lost @ Wooster 71-83
9. Ohio Wesleyan 14-6, 13-4.......won Wabash 86-57; won Hiram 85-71
10. Calvin 13-7, 8-3.....................won Alma 74-60; won Adrian 63-48

The records should be current and hopefully correct.  Given my track record, corrections always welcome.

[kiltedbryan]

So we'll get one night to dissect the GL poster's opinions on the region tonight, and then we'll get the "real" poll from the NCAA tomorrow.

Will 6 teams be ranked from the Great Lakes? Wasn't that the amount from previous years?

[sac]

Great Lakes Region Poll Week 6

1. Hope (5) 17-3, 12-2.................85
2. Wooster (4) 18-3, 11-2............82
3. Capital  18-3, 17-3....................76
4. Albion 14-5, 10-3......................55
5. Wittenberg 15-6, 14-4.............54
6. Ohio Wesleyan 14-6, 13-4.......39
7. Heidelberg 16-5, 14-4..............34
8. Calvin 13-7, 8-3.........................22
9. PSU-Behrend 17-4, 15-3............21
10. Carnegie-Mellon 13-7, 10-6.....14

Others: Ohio Northern 7, Lake Erie 4, Wabash 2

Key games

Wednesday
#8 Calvin @ #4 Albion
#6 Ohio Weleyan @ #5 Wittenberg

Saturday
#5 Wittenberg @ #2 Wooster

Sunday
#10 Carnegie Mellon @ National #10 Brandeis


Albion was the big mover up, jumping 3 place, Carnegie Mellon falls 5  after 2 UAA losses.  Penn St.-Behrend joins the top 10, Wabash drops out.

[David Collinge]

Interestingly, #6 OWU has beaten both #4 Albion and #5 Wittenberg.  Their only losses since the Albion game were at Wabash (by 5) and at Wooster (by 8.)

[kiltedbryan]

Interestingly, #6 OWU has beaten both #4 Albion and #5 Wittenberg.  Their only losses since the Albion game were at Wabash (by 5) and at Wooster (by 8.)

Yeah, I had OWU above Witt on my current ballot.  Of course, I also got to see OWU dismantle Wabash in person last week.

[sac]

Witt was ahead of Albion on 6 of the 9 ballots, the ninth ballot as I counted them was particularly damaging to the Tigers, which was odd because it was the lowest Albion was slotted.

Albion was ahead of OWU on all 9 ballots.

[David Collinge]

Albion was ahead of OWU on all 9 ballots.

See, I don't get that.  I was at the OWU/Albion game, and while it wasn't exactly dominant, there was little doubt left as to which was the better team.  And OWU has done nothing but improve since then.  But since I don't vote in polls like this, I guess I forfeit the right to complain about the results.

[kiltedbryan]

Albion was ahead of OWU on all 9 ballots.

See, I don't get that.  I was at the OWU/Albion game, and while it wasn't exactly dominant, there was little doubt left as to which was the better team.  And OWU has done nothing but improve since then.  But since I don't vote in polls like this, I guess I forfeit the right to complain about the results.

The only rationale I can give is that Albion has its victory over Hope, while OWU lost to Wooster twice...at least, I moved Albion well up on my ballot after the Hope victory.

I was also only looking at recent results and tweaking my ballot...I forgot about the Albion-OWU head-to-head matchup when filling out this ballot.  (Perhaps other posters are also forgetting about this neutral-floor meeting.)

[sac]

We get our first look at the real rankings tonight.  Going  off RPI and in-region records, I'm guessing

1. Wooster
2. Hope
3. Cap
4. PSU-Behrend
5. Wittenberg
6. Albion


If I did RPI right (unlikely), and using in-region records, this is how it should shake out.

I have the RPI's like this

Capital-----2.452
Wooster---2.391
Hope-------2.378
Albion------2.199
PSB---------2.184
Witt--------2.15

OWU-------2.35

We'll see but I think in-region record might carry more weight.

[Basketball23]

I'm "Guessing":

1. Capital
2. Wooster
3. Hope
4. OWU
5. Heidelberg
6. PSU-Behrend