Great Lakes Region

[ScotsFan]

now with capital  losing wed night i think hope will jump wooster for 1st place in the region 

Why would Capital losing cause Hope to jump Wooster?  The logical assumption would be that Wooster would move to the top spot and Hope would slide in at #2...

[sac]

now with capital  losing wed night i think hope will jump wooster for 1st place in the region 

Why would Capital losing cause Hope to jump Wooster?  The logical assumption would be that Wooster would move to the top spot and Hope would slide in at #2...

I'm not certain Capital losing even moves Capital down more than #2, of course the best part is we'll never know.

[kiltedbryan]

now with capital  losing wed night i think hope will jump wooster for 1st place in the region 

Why would Capital losing cause Hope to jump Wooster?  The logical assumption would be that Wooster would move to the top spot and Hope would slide in at #2...

I'm not certain Capital losing even moves Capital down more than #2, of course the best part is we'll never know.

Yes we will.  We still get a regional rankings report on the 27th.  We'll see where teams are slotted after the completion of the regular season; we won't see where teams are slotted after the completion of conference tournaments.

[ScotsFan]

now with capital  losing wed night i think hope will jump wooster for 1st place in the region 

Why would Capital losing cause Hope to jump Wooster?  The logical assumption would be that Wooster would move to the top spot and Hope would slide in at #2...

I'm not certain Capital losing even moves Capital down more than #2, of course the best part is we'll never know.

I was kind of thinking the same thing.  Except I was thinking that Cap might not even lose their #1 ranking with the loss... 

[Ralph Turner]

the committee didn't get the memo.

Seems to me they did get the memo as Carthage has never been denoted as a regional game this season which is as it should have been all along.  As far as Roanoke is concerned, I would just chalk that up to an honest mistake or an oversight.  Mistakes do happen.  As Pat said, these guys are human after all.  Nobody's perfect.  The important thing is it happened on the 1st poll which and was corrected by the 2nd poll and it really didn't make much of a difference as Wooster is still ranked ahead of Hope even with the Roanoke game included.

Just realize that it's pretty hard to accept the "we're human" excuse, when your school is the one that has had to suffer the consequences of it for several years in a row. 

FDF, come on down to the ASC boards!  We can commiserate together!   

[sac]

I was planning on doing another poll, feel free to vote if interested.

[Mr. Ypsi]

sac, with playoffs approaching I really have lost track of schools unlikely to be involved.  My top five is easy (1. Hope 2. Woo 3. Cap 4. Albion 5. Heidi), but beyond that would take some digging.  Let me know if you really, really need another ballot!

[sac]

sac, with playoffs approaching I really have lost track of schools unlikely to be involved.  My top five is easy (1. Hope 2. Woo 3. Cap 4. Albion 5. Heidi), but beyond that would take some digging.  Let me know if you really, really need another ballot!

Nope its 6:30, and I only have 1 thats not mine, so I'm probably not going to do one.

[smedindy]

So, I guess then my opinion is the one that counts!   

[sac]

Nope these are the only opinions that count.........new poll

Great Lakes Region 
1.  Hope  21-3  15-2 
2.  Capital  21-4  20-4 
3.  Wooster  22-3  15-2 
4.  Heidelberg  20-5  18-4 
5.  Penn State-Behrend  21-4  19-3 
6.  Albion  18-5  14-3

They LOVE Capital.

[smedindy]

Hmmm..'Berg for a "C" if they make it to the OAC final?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Seems like a fairly reasonable conclusion

[sac]

Hmmm..'Berg for a "C" if they make it to the OAC final?

It would be more interesting to see the poll if someone other than Cap were to beat Heidelberg in the OAC final...........then you'd have yourself a poll.  I'd like see how they'd stack Cap, Heid then

[kiltedbryan]

Copied this over from the OWP numbers on the site:  (Sorry if the table formatting didn't come through.)

              In-region   Reg. %    OWP     OOWP
Hope            15-2    .882    0.508    0.494
Capital          20-4    .833    0.528    0.524
Wooster       15-2    .882    0.484    0.490
Heidelberg    18-4    .818    0.519    0.521
Behrend       19-3    .864    0.466    0.492
Albion          14-3    .824    0.476    0.496

Wooster is getting punished for those low OWP/OOWP numbers:

Wooster leads in regional winning % by .049, but Capital leads in OWP by .044 and OOWP by .034.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Yeah, except Hope's OWP and OOWP are nearly as low as Woo's.  My guess would be that the differences among 1, 2, and 3 were razor thin.