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John McGraw

Ithaca-Cortland canceled yesterday because Cortland had to make up a conference doubleheader at home against Brockport.

Today...
Ithaca 11 Oswego 1

Nick Sottung earns his 28th career victory, tying cousin Kyle for the school record in career victories. In an interesting note, it's Sottung's third appearance and second start in just over a week. He went seven innings today and allowed one run on 10 hits.

Sottung pitched five innings of relief last Wednesday against New Paltz. He started the conference opener against Stevens on Saturday and threw six innings. And then today's start came on four days rest.

Throughout his career, Nick has shown that he can pitch on short rest. Last year at the regionals, he pitched Ithaca's first game against Westfield State and threw seven innings. He came back in the title round on two days rest and pitched seven strong innings against Cortland and IMHO would have won if Ithaca's defense hadn't fallen apart.

While Sottung is a bulldog, I can't say I like the idea of having him make three appearances in one week (two of which in non-conference games) as a starter. So far, Ithaca has used just nine pitchers and six of the nine have started. The lack of pitchers won't be a factor during the regular season but it could come back to haunt IC in the playoffs should they make it. That's been the team's MO since I can remember, two or three strong starters through the season and then they're ridden as long as they can go in the playoffs.

Ithaca fans, any thoughts?

pudge27

Quote from: John McGraw on April 03, 2008, 07:47:51 PM
Ithaca-Cortland canceled yesterday because Cortland had to make up a conference doubleheader at home against Brockport.


Ithaca fans, any thoughts?


Good point John.  I don't have any additional thoughts aside from what you said, but I would officially like to start the clock on how long in with take JQViper to whip out that picture of IC's trophy case from 1980.  And.........It is 8:08 pm. 

shoeless

Ithaca beat Oswego today.  Why has oswego got so few games in?  do they not travel south?

Bob Maxwell

Why would that happen... they have pitching depth.  Seems like you are playing roulette with his arn.

John McGraw

Yesterday over at Cornell...

Ithaca 9 Utica 1
Ithaca 12 Utica 3

Two more today at what looks like will be sun-drenched Freeman Field. If I didn't have work today I'd drive down to IC and check out the games.

John McGraw

Ithaca 1 Utica 0
Ithaca 6 Utica 3

Ithaca has won 12 straight since getting back from California. The Bombers host Oneonta for a midweek game next.

JQV

Quote from: pudge27 on April 03, 2008, 08:08:43 PMbut I would officially like to start the clock on how long in with take JQViper to whip out that picture of IC's trophy case from 1980.  And.........It is 8:08 pm. 

Nah, no need for the trophy case.

Besides, everyone knows that Cortland is just using the 'Port twinbill as an excuse.  They obviously cancelled the game because IC had its pitching lined up to use its top starters midweek.  You know, because they never use them in conference play on the weekends.

+k

John McGraw

Today at Freeman Field...

Ithaca 12 Oneonta 5

-Nick Sottung earned his school record 29th career victory.

pudge27

Quote from: JoseQViper on April 07, 2008, 09:19:33 AM
Quote from: pudge27 on April 03, 2008, 08:08:43 PMbut I would officially like to start the clock on how long in with take JQViper to whip out that picture of IC's trophy case from 1980.  And.........It is 8:08 pm. 

Nah, no need for the trophy case.

Besides, everyone knows that Cortland is just using the 'Port twinbill as an excuse.  They obviously cancelled the game because IC had its pitching lined up to use its top starters midweek.  You know, because they never use them in conference play on the weekends.

+k

Can't say that I blame them.  The idea of throwing your ace midweek and taking 4 from UC on the weekends has worked pretty well in the recent past.  It's actually nice to see some NY schools playing well.  I think it would be great to have an all NY regional this year.  Cortland, IC, RPI, UR, SJFC all seem to be playing well.  It's pretty early, but any other votes on who we might see from NYS come regional time?

John McGraw

Quote from: pudge27 on April 09, 2008, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on April 07, 2008, 09:19:33 AM
Quote from: pudge27 on April 03, 2008, 08:08:43 PMbut I would officially like to start the clock on how long in with take JQViper to whip out that picture of IC's trophy case from 1980.  And.........It is 8:08 pm. 

Nah, no need for the trophy case.

Besides, everyone knows that Cortland is just using the 'Port twinbill as an excuse.  They obviously cancelled the game because IC had its pitching lined up to use its top starters midweek.  You know, because they never use them in conference play on the weekends.

+k

Can't say that I blame them.  The idea of throwing your ace midweek and taking 4 from UC on the weekends has worked pretty well in the recent past.  It's actually nice to see some NY schools playing well.  I think it would be great to have an all NY regional this year.  Cortland, IC, RPI, UR, SJFC all seem to be playing well.  It's pretty early, but any other votes on who we might see from NYS come regional time?

Maybe it's just me, but I long for the days of the four-team regional. I think the last one was in 2001 at Falcon Park. I'd check up on it, but my current work project has me not wanting to do extensive research. It was an all-New York regional with Cortland, RPI, Ithaca and Old Westbury. Heck of a tournament that saw Cortland win and make its fifth-straight trip to the World Series. The best game of the tournament may have been the opener with Travis Teeter and RPI against Cortland and Mike Howell (I think that's who it was).

Now, you have six and seven team regionals and it feels just too crowded, especially when you get four games in one day for two-straight days to start the tournament.

Not sure who we'll see in Auburn, but I'd have to haphazard a guess that four of the teams would be Cortland, Ithaca, RPI and Rochester. It's early and there could very well be a fifth team sneaking into that grouping.

My question would be, if Manhattanville wins the MAC Freedom, do they get shipped to New York?

John McGraw

Ithaca 12 RIT 0
Ithaca 3 RIT 0

scuba16

Quote from: John McGraw on April 09, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: pudge27 on April 09, 2008, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: JoseQViper on April 07, 2008, 09:19:33 AM
Quote from: pudge27 on April 03, 2008, 08:08:43 PMbut I would officially like to start the clock on how long in with take JQViper to whip out that picture of IC's trophy case from 1980.  And.........It is 8:08 pm. 

Nah, no need for the trophy case.

Besides, everyone knows that Cortland is just using the 'Port twinbill as an excuse.  They obviously cancelled the game because IC had its pitching lined up to use its top starters midweek.  You know, because they never use them in conference play on the weekends.

+k

Can't say that I blame them.  The idea of throwing your ace midweek and taking 4 from UC on the weekends has worked pretty well in the recent past.  It's actually nice to see some NY schools playing well.  I think it would be great to have an all NY regional this year.  Cortland, IC, RPI, UR, SJFC all seem to be playing well.  It's pretty early, but any other votes on who we might see from NYS come regional time?

Maybe it's just me, but I long for the days of the four-team regional. I think the last one was in 2001 at Falcon Park. I'd check up on it, but my current work project has me not wanting to do extensive research. It was an all-New York regional with Cortland, RPI, Ithaca and Old Westbury. Heck of a tournament that saw Cortland win and make its fifth-straight trip to the World Series. The best game of the tournament may have been the opener with Travis Teeter and RPI against Cortland and Mike Howell (I think that's who it was).

Now, you have six and seven team regionals and it feels just too crowded, especially when you get four games in one day for two-straight days to start the tournament.

Not sure who we'll see in Auburn, but I'd have to haphazard a guess that four of the teams would be Cortland, Ithaca, RPI and Rochester. It's early and there could very well be a fifth team sneaking into that grouping.

My question would be, if Manhattanville wins the MAC Freedom, do they get shipped to New York?

4 team regionals were a better overall format, you had the best 4 teams from each region battling it out and no team wore themselves out. Having said that, if you are going to have anywhere from 5-8 team regionals with byes, why not just make 8, 8 team regionals (64 teams) and we'll see the best in Wisconsin.
It should be 8, 4 team regionals or the 2nd best option of 8, 8 team regionals. This nonsense of buys and stuff is ridiculous in a double elimination format. You are giving a team an unfair advantage, earned or unearned!

The other thing that is dumb IMO is shipping teams to different regions. If you are not good enough to make your regional that you play in, you don't make any regional.
I know the goal is to get the best teams playing in the post season, but make the regional of the region you play in or go home!
In sports it's not how you start, its how you finish!

shoeless

is ithaca and corland playing today?  Who won?

jdex


    Cortland at Ithaca on Wednesday. Earlier date at CSt ppd. by weather and yet to be rescheduled. Cortland 21-3 with today's 6-3 decisioning of Plattsburgh in first game of charted conference dh at frigid C'land

jdex


   Cortland wins nightcap 5-4 stretching win streak to 18