BB: E8: Empire 8

Tarheel0550 · April 28, 2011, 04:47:47 PM

Regional Rankings just out
C-Land
O-State
B-Port
RPI
ST.J Fisher
Farmingdale

looks like SOS makes up alot of the determination on who gets in.If O-State would atleast spit with Fisher I cant see STJF jumping over them.O-State still has 3 games with B-Port this weekend

WrongArm · April 28, 2011, 08:05:03 PM

The records listed in the ranking don't appear to take into account Wednesday's games. St John Fisher was undetered by their unfavorable SOS number and beat Brockport. And a not-so-scarey Ithaca team put a loss on Oneonta. Lots of baseball left.

Tarheel0550 · April 28, 2011, 08:41:21 PM

Oneonta also blanked ithaca earlier in season 8-0.Undetered or not Like I said before O-State has the 25th sorry 20th toughest SOS in the nation ST J Fisher 324, that will go a long way in the minds of the selection commitee

basesjuiced4 · April 29, 2011, 12:53:33 AM

If you look ahead at SJF schedule they still have to play Oneonta, Ithaca (DH), Cortland, Penn St. Behrend, RIT (4), and a couple others. I believe the way it works is that their SOS will get tremendously better as they play those games because I don't think SOS takes into account your entire schedule just the games that you have played. Can someone clarify this for me? I think a big problem for baseball in this region is that when you are making a schedule a year in advance you can't account for teams like Ithaca to be mediocre, you almost depend on them to help your SOS and in this case they did not.

Ralph Turner · April 29, 2011, 01:18:38 AM

Quote from: sjfcards on April 26, 2011, 04:58:57 PM
What happened to the baseball team at Hartwick? I remember Fisher playing them when I was there. It is too bad that the E8 can not get a good baseball conference going. The other sports seem to have some real solid leagues. In football and golf (and other sports) they have gone outside of the traditional schools to fill out the league (Springfield, Salisbury, Buff State, etc.). Why not for baseball?
...

Hartwick dropped baseball after 2006.

Tarheel0550 · April 29, 2011, 08:13:53 AM

basesjuiced-you are correct they ony take into account games played this far and opponents games played this far

rob · April 29, 2011, 08:23:55 AM

Juiced- Those teams may help your SOS but you have to win some of them as well. Wins need to come first. Usually, if you deserve a bid you may get one.

airball55 · April 29, 2011, 09:06:46 AM

Fisher will certainly get their chance to play some of the teams ahead of them. They will be fine and with their pitching depth still looks like a solid at large team. With a heads up win at Brockport and a DH with Oneonta still they will get to show their worth.

basesjuiced4 · May 01, 2011, 07:38:41 PM

It appears that the preseason picks didn't pan out for the bombers this year in the E8. I am sure they are a solid team but it looks like Fisher is now the team to beat. Wasn't at the games this weekend but I see that Fisher clinched the E8 title for the 2nd year in a row. The numbers at this point don't lie http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary. I believe the conference player of the year (Barressi) transfered to Ithaca from Fisher over the winter if I'm not mistaken. Wonder if there are any regrets there?

sjfcards · May 02, 2011, 02:24:21 PM

Quote from: airball55 on April 29, 2011, 09:06:46 AM
Fisher will certainly get their chance to play some of the teams ahead of them. They will be fine and with their pitching depth still looks like a solid at large team. With a heads up win at Brockport and a DH with Oneonta still they will get to show their worth.

Just following Upstate Baseball as much as I have this year (admittedly not that much) I can't see how Fisher will not be in the regional if they finish the year playing anything close to what they have been this season. Fisher has been a solid team from the start, and has only lost twice since coming back from Florida. Obviously a bad SOS makes all the wins less impressive, but they have done all that they have needed to do so far. The game against Cortland and two against Oneonta should go a long way to getting Fisher in, or putting them right on that bubble.

I don't know if this years team is as good as last years Fisher team, but I am excited to see what they can do down the stretch and in the playoffs.

Any ideas what happened to Ithaca this year? I always expect Ithaca to be one of the better teams in the state. They are obviously not a terrible team, but they have struggled to stay above .500 this year. What gives?

WrongArm · May 02, 2011, 06:05:17 PM

The American Baseball Coaches Association (ABCA), in the poll results for Apr. 26 (next poll on May 3), ranked only two NY teams in the top 30 -- Cortland and St. John Fisher. I think Fisher is better than last year. Their pitching is solid and deep and they've got lots of ways to score runs.

Quote from: basesjuiced4 on May 01, 2011, 07:38:41 PM
I believe the conference player of the year (Barressi) transfered to Ithaca from Fisher over the winter if I'm not mistaken.

Jeff Dornes from RIT was 2010 Conference player of the year. Barresi didn't make first or second team but was an Honorable Mention.

http://www.empire8.com/documents/2010/8/19/Baseball%20All-Conference%202010.pdf

basesjuiced4 · May 02, 2011, 08:38:40 PM

My mistake wrongarm, I read it wrong on the Ithaca website, he was rookie of the year as a freshman and all tournament team at the regional last year-either way has got to be dissapointing. I agree with you that Fisher appears to be a lot deeper this year. It should be interesting to see how the rest of the games play out since it seems like it is make or break time for a lot of teams in the next ten days or so with all of this beautiful weather we have had in upstate NY this spring.

airball55 · May 03, 2011, 12:22:04 PM

St. John Fisher is certainly a team that has exceeded some expectations. But, they had good young players and losing Jurik has not cost them as much as once maybe thought. The Barresi transfer has not cost them at all as well. If they can get Cortland, as well as at least split with Oneonta, people may have to look at them as the one seed in this region and not as a team that may or may not get in.

WrongArm · May 03, 2011, 02:23:43 PM

Quote from: airball55 on May 03, 2011, 12:22:04 PM
If they can get Cortland, as well as at least split with Oneonta, people may have to look at them as the one seed in this region and not as a team that may or may not get in.

Today's ABCA poll shows Cortland moving up to number 5 from 8 last week, and St. John Fisher, after a good week, rises to 24 from 28. That's a nice bump, but I can't imagine anyone overtaking Cortland. The NCAA ranked three SUNY schools ahead of Fisher. One of them was Brockport. They didn't make the top thirty in the poll, but they did receive votes so they are not going unnoticed. Fisher ought to play like there's no tomorrow and keep their fingers crossed.

http://www.muhlenberg.edu/pdf/main/athletics/abcapoll050311.pdf

John McGraw · May 03, 2011, 10:17:17 PM

Quote from: airball55 on May 03, 2011, 12:22:04 PM
St. John Fisher is certainly a team that has exceeded some expectations. But, they had good young players and losing Jurik has not cost them as much as once maybe thought. The Barresi transfer has not cost them at all as well. If they can get Cortland, as well as at least split with Oneonta, people may have to look at them as the one seed in this region and not as a team that may or may not get in.

Remember though, only two Pool B spots nationally. At this point, Chapman appears to be a lock for one of them. Question is, will Fisher nab the other?