BB: E8: Empire 8

rob · May 09, 2011, 12:10:55 PM

A couple of things...
Regional records, SOS, etc all of these useful stats come into play when determining which teams are chosen for regionals, but keep in mind that the men who make the picks try to get the BEST teams in.
Sometime going against what may be backed up by the stats, but usually the picks all deserve to be there.
Also, there are ALWAYS surprises. After a month of debate about which teams should or shouldn't be in the committee will inevitably throw some curveballs.
By the way; Farmingdale is a good team with a good program. I'm not sure why this is being questioned as they have been to Regionals the last 3 years or so with a W. S. appaerance in that time. I'm not a big fan but I do follow them and they beat the right teams and win the right games, and yes, they are in a weak conference.

Big Louie · May 09, 2011, 12:46:55 PM

I agree Farmingdale won the Skyline and are in the Regionals. If we were debating if they should get a pool C bid then I understand the argument of the weak conference but that's not the issue.

The real issue here is should St John Fisher get into the NCAA tournament with a great record? They kind of remind me the Oneonta teams of the mid to late 2000's who would regularly rack up 30 win seasons and never get into the NCAA's because they played a weak schedule.

There are only two pool B bids out there and baring any major changes it looks like they will be going to Piedmont and Chapman leaving St John Fisher to hope for one of the 15 Pool C's.

sjfcards · May 09, 2011, 01:45:21 PM

I think fisher has as strong a case to get into the regional as any team in the region not named Cortland. They have won a lot of games and when theybhave played the better teams they have won. I think fisher's SOS has been hurt by the weather some as well, since games with oneonta have bee rained out twice. Not that that is going to make fishers schedule strong, but it would help them if they could beat another regionally ranked team.

They still play Cortland and can hopefully schedule some more games now that finals are over.

JohnnyU · May 09, 2011, 05:05:35 PM

Assuming Penn-State Behrend holds on to their 14-2 lead, St. John's Fisher will be 4-4 inregion against teams over .500.

rob · May 09, 2011, 09:59:52 PM

Fisher's got a rough road to get to regionals...at this point maybe impossible

basesjuiced4 · May 09, 2011, 11:01:14 PM

Guess I picked a bad day to attend my second Fisher game this season. In regards to the 6th inning debocal that cost them the game, PSB had a hit and run on and Fishers 3rd baseman dropped what looked like an easy line drive that would have doubled the runner up at first and there would have been two outs. It was painful to watch as NOT ONE ball that inning was hard hit, they were all bloopers and bleeders that found a hole. Fisher was clearly the better team on the field, but that dropped line drive might have cost them big. I am optimistic that Fisher is still alive if they are able to knock off the Red Dragons on Wednesday. Don't think I will be at that one...might be bad luck. Any predictions on the New York Regional Selections and Seeding?

WrongArm · May 10, 2011, 05:41:56 AM

Without an AQ for the E8, Fisher always had a rough road to make the tournament. And yesterday's game is only one in a body of work that began in February.

JohnnyU · May 10, 2011, 11:09:36 AM

Great addition of Alvernia to the schedule for St. John Fisher. I think the winner of that series is in, but the loser is out. Smart move by both teams to take matters into their own hands and settle it on the field.

John McGraw · May 11, 2011, 01:41:21 PM

The Cortland-Fisher game scheduled for today has been cancelled.

airball55 · May 11, 2011, 05:10:54 PM

Oneonta cancelled against Fisher and now Cortland. They now are going to Alvernia and maybe someone else who may want to play. Hard to strenghten a schedule when no one will play. I wonder, if Ithaca was 25-8 if they would get snubbed? May be a moot point, if they drop both to Alvernia. I can't see an eight team regional up here where the SUNYAC and LL get two teams and Fisher gets a bid as well. New York does not command that kind of post season attention. When was the last time the Empire 8 champ did not get a bid?? Mr. Mcgraw may have that info. It certainly could be this season. I can't believe I am saying this, but they may be better off going totally independant and dropping the Empire 8 schedule, it is getting the nowhere. 3 out of 4, all at Ithaca isn't what it used to be. I

cs2to6 · May 12, 2011, 08:08:20 PM

Alvernia won 11-0 over St. John Fisher today.

airball55 · February 04, 2012, 10:15:06 PM

Let's get the ball rolling on predictions for 2012. At first glance it looks like Fisher and then the rest. Can Ithaca climb back up the ladder to get to the Cardinals? Or is maybe Stevens ready to go by Ithaca? With the departure of RIT, these teams have it real tough to get a post season bid, as was evident last year. I would imagine 30 wins is almost a necessity for an at large.

sjfcards · February 26, 2012, 06:27:16 PM

A good start for Fisher on this year as they sweep a doubleheader against SUNY Purchase. No stats are available yet, but it looks like 2 strong pitching performances as they won 17-2 and 7-1.

Justin Damato started game two so it looks like the new guy Beaumont is the 1 starter as of right now. Looks like a strong 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation.

airball55 · February 27, 2012, 07:08:58 PM

Beaumont is a D2 transfer and a good one. Purchase brings in B-port and Fisher for the weekend and takes the collar, 0-4. Fisher has other arms to go with these two as well, probably needs to make sure they get near the 30 win total if they want the at-large after their experience last year... and they may have the horses to do so.

John McGraw · February 28, 2012, 12:56:58 AM

Quote from: airball55 on February 27, 2012, 07:08:58 PM
Beaumont is a D2 transfer and a good one. Purchase brings in B-port and Fisher for the weekend and takes the collar, 0-4. Fisher has other arms to go with these two as well, probably needs to make sure they get near the 30 win total if they want the at-large after their experience last year... and they may have the horses to do so.

Beaumont was a conference starter at Division II Lynn which plays in one of the toughest Division II leagues in country. He was second on his team in strikeouts last year. Local kid from the Rochester area, pitched at MCC for two years and then spent one season at Lynn before returning home. Like I said in the New York preview, Fisher's 1-2 punch of Beaumont and D'Amato is perhaps the best in the region.