BB: E8: Empire 8

[sjfcards]

Fisher beat Rutgers-Camden today to get to 27 wins, and will play either SUNY Purchase or USMMA in the championship at 3. Fisher probably need to win the second game today to have any chance. I wonder why they are playing in the Metro-region ECACs and not against teams like Oswego and Brockport from upstate?

[airball55]

that's a decent win against Rutgers Camden.  Last I checked they were up 16-1 with the reserves in the game in the seventh.  That makes them 28-14 and very dangerous.  The strength of schedule helps them..not sure why there was no ECAC upstate this year but you have to give them credit to travel and play.  They are a team no one wants to see with D'Amato and Rynerson at the front of the rotation.  But is it too little too late?

[OshDude]

Camden win was good, but it'll be considered in the secondary criteria.

[sjfcards]

Camden win was good, but it'll be considered in the secondary criteria.

Fisher did beat SUNY Purchase, but both wins will be in the secondary criteria as mentioned above. Wish those wins were against Oswego and RPI but they will have to take what they can get.

[OshDude]

Purchase is a primary-criteria win.

[airball55]

that give NY, Cortland, Ithaca, Farmingdale, RPI...then, Fisher would have to be next.  Again, is it enough??  Union and Oswego both lost head to head to Fisher, so they are out of it.  Is the NY region worthy of another spot?  Fisher received an at large last year and played very respectable at the Marietta regional, knocking of Marietta and if the bullpen could have held in the winners bracket game, they had a shot to knock of Marietta.  Should be interesting needless to say.

[AlleyCat]

Like I said before, no pool c teams for NY. NY region is not looked at as a strong region.

[sjfcards]

PC got my hopes up with their projection that Fisher would be in the field, but ultimately I think the committee did the right thing by leaving them out. Tough to take but it is what it is.

[Bombers798891]

Graczyk over Locastro for NY player of the year? Interesting call.

Graczyk: .408/.464/.516 1 HR, 1 3B, 15 2B, 31 RBI, 17 BB, 13 steals in 20 attempts
Locastro: .424/.539/.625 2 HR, 6 3B, 11 2B, 32 RBI, 15 BB, 36 steals in 37 attempts

Graczyk is a CF, Locastro is a SS, so both of them play premium defensive positions—though Locastro's 19 errors would seem like a lot for a SS, and Graczyk made just one (though it tells us nothing about his range)

But these offensive numbers aren't even close. 100 points in slugging? 23 additional steals AND a nearly perfect percentage? Yes, the caliber of competition may have been different, but by how much? The teams played three times, and shared several opponents.

The defense may have been a check in Graczyk's favor, but Locastro's advantage in hitting and baserunning make him the better pick IMO. 

[rob]

Graczyk over Locastro for NY player of the year? Interesting call.

Graczyk: .408/.464/.516 1 HR, 1 3B, 15 2B, 31 RBI, 17 BB, 13 steals in 20 attempts
Locastro: .424/.539/.625 2 HR, 6 3B, 11 2B, 32 RBI, 15 BB, 36 steals in 37 attempts

Graczyk is a CF, Locastro is a SS, so both of them play premium defensive positions—though Locastro's 19 errors would seem like a lot for a SS, and Graczyk made just one (though it tells us nothing about his range)

But these offensive numbers aren't even close. 100 points in slugging? 23 additional steals AND a nearly perfect percentage? Yes, the caliber of competition may have been different, but by how much? The teams played three times, and shared several opponents.

The defense may have been a check in Graczyk's favor, but Locastro's advantage in hitting and baserunning make him the better pick IMO.

Locastro had a great year.
You're comparing stats on a sheet of paper.  How many times have you seen Graczyk actually play?
Graczyk won because he deserves it.  If it went the other way, Locastro would have deserved it.
Stop Whining!!
Ithaca won and you still have sour grapes.

[Bombers798891]

Graczyk over Locastro for NY player of the year? Interesting call.

Graczyk: .408/.464/.516 1 HR, 1 3B, 15 2B, 31 RBI, 17 BB, 13 steals in 20 attempts
Locastro: .424/.539/.625 2 HR, 6 3B, 11 2B, 32 RBI, 15 BB, 36 steals in 37 attempts

Graczyk is a CF, Locastro is a SS, so both of them play premium defensive positions—though Locastro's 19 errors would seem like a lot for a SS, and Graczyk made just one (though it tells us nothing about his range)

But these offensive numbers aren't even close. 100 points in slugging? 23 additional steals AND a nearly perfect percentage? Yes, the caliber of competition may have been different, but by how much? The teams played three times, and shared several opponents.

The defense may have been a check in Graczyk's favor, but Locastro's advantage in hitting and baserunning make him the better pick IMO.

Locastro had a great year.
You're comparing stats on a sheet of paper.  How many times have you seen Graczyk actually play?
Graczyk won because he deserves it.  If it went the other way, Locastro would have deserved it.
Stop Whining!!
Ithaca won and you still have sour grapes.

Of course I'm comparing stats on a sheet of paper. What do you think the voters were doing? It's Division III sports. These games aren't nationally broadcast. There aren't video highlights readily available. You think the people who vote for these things can watch all these games live?

So let's flip it around. If you're a Cortland fan, how many times have you seen Locastro play?

[rob]

Graczyk over Locastro for NY player of the year? Interesting call.

Graczyk: .408/.464/.516 1 HR, 1 3B, 15 2B, 31 RBI, 17 BB, 13 steals in 20 attempts
Locastro: .424/.539/.625 2 HR, 6 3B, 11 2B, 32 RBI, 15 BB, 36 steals in 37 attempts

Graczyk is a CF, Locastro is a SS, so both of them play premium defensive positions—though Locastro's 19 errors would seem like a lot for a SS, and Graczyk made just one (though it tells us nothing about his range)

But these offensive numbers aren't even close. 100 points in slugging? 23 additional steals AND a nearly perfect percentage? Yes, the caliber of competition may have been different, but by how much? The teams played three times, and shared several opponents.

The defense may have been a check in Graczyk's favor, but Locastro's advantage in hitting and baserunning make him the better pick IMO.

Locastro had a great year.
You're comparing stats on a sheet of paper.  How many times have you seen Graczyk actually play?
Graczyk won because he deserves it.  If it went the other way, Locastro would have deserved it.
Stop Whining!!
Ithaca won and you still have sour grapes.

Of course I'm comparing stats on a sheet of paper. What do you think the voters were doing? It's Division III sports. These games aren't nationally broadcast. There aren't video highlights readily available. You think the people who vote for these things can watch all these games live?

So let's flip it around. If you're a Cortland fan, how many times have you seen Locastro play?

My point is, both players had good years, both are deserving.

[CrashDavisD3]

Graczyk over Locastro for NY player of the year? Interesting call.

Graczyk: .408/.464/.516 1 HR, 1 3B, 15 2B, 31 RBI, 17 BB, 13 steals in 20 attempts
Locastro: .424/.539/.625 2 HR, 6 3B, 11 2B, 32 RBI, 15 BB, 36 steals in 37 attempts

Graczyk is a CF, Locastro is a SS, so both of them play premium defensive positions—though Locastro's 19 errors would seem like a lot for a SS, and Graczyk made just one (though it tells us nothing about his range)

But these offensive numbers aren't even close. 100 points in slugging? 23 additional steals AND a nearly perfect percentage? Yes, the caliber of competition may have been different, but by how much? The teams played three times, and shared several opponents.

The defense may have been a check in Graczyk's favor, but Locastro's advantage in hitting and baserunning make him the better pick IMO.

Locastro had a great year.
You're comparing stats on a sheet of paper.  How many times have you seen Graczyk actually play?
Graczyk won because he deserves it.  If it went the other way, Locastro would have deserved it.
Stop Whining!!
Ithaca won and you still have sour grapes.

Of course I'm comparing stats on a sheet of paper. What do you think the voters were doing? It's Division III sports. These games aren't nationally broadcast. There aren't video highlights readily available. You think the people who vote for these things can watch all these games live?

So let's flip it around. If you're a Cortland fan, how many times have you seen Locastro play?

My point is, both players had good years, both are deserving.

This may be true BUT unless they award Co-Player awards a choice must be made and yes numbers is how it should be judged. Honestly who has the better numbers. What is the justification to award the player with lesser numbers. Just the facts should be used. Not politics, not bias, not team reputation or history.

[Jonny Utah]

Graczyk over Locastro for NY player of the year? Interesting call.

Graczyk: .408/.464/.516 1 HR, 1 3B, 15 2B, 31 RBI, 17 BB, 13 steals in 20 attempts
Locastro: .424/.539/.625 2 HR, 6 3B, 11 2B, 32 RBI, 15 BB, 36 steals in 37 attempts

Graczyk is a CF, Locastro is a SS, so both of them play premium defensive positions—though Locastro's 19 errors would seem like a lot for a SS, and Graczyk made just one (though it tells us nothing about his range)

But these offensive numbers aren't even close. 100 points in slugging? 23 additional steals AND a nearly perfect percentage? Yes, the caliber of competition may have been different, but by how much? The teams played three times, and shared several opponents.

The defense may have been a check in Graczyk's favor, but Locastro's advantage in hitting and baserunning make him the better pick IMO.

bombers,  according to the d3baseball.com blurb on the all-american teams, Locastro is credited with only 11 stolen bases (probably confused with doubles).  Locastro also was beaten out by a SS from Manchester with slightly lower numbers.  I hope the voting staff got the right stats!

[Bombers798891]

Graczyk over Locastro for NY player of the year? Interesting call.

Graczyk: .408/.464/.516 1 HR, 1 3B, 15 2B, 31 RBI, 17 BB, 13 steals in 20 attempts
Locastro: .424/.539/.625 2 HR, 6 3B, 11 2B, 32 RBI, 15 BB, 36 steals in 37 attempts

Graczyk is a CF, Locastro is a SS, so both of them play premium defensive positions—though Locastro's 19 errors would seem like a lot for a SS, and Graczyk made just one (though it tells us nothing about his range)

But these offensive numbers aren't even close. 100 points in slugging? 23 additional steals AND a nearly perfect percentage? Yes, the caliber of competition may have been different, but by how much? The teams played three times, and shared several opponents.

The defense may have been a check in Graczyk's favor, but Locastro's advantage in hitting and baserunning make him the better pick IMO.

bombers,  according to the d3baseball.com blurb on the all-american teams, Locastro is credited with only 11 stolen bases (probably confused with doubles).  Locastro also was beaten out by a SS from Manchester with slightly lower numbers.  I hope the voting staff got the right stats!

The steal numbers are wrong, obviously. I'm not as bugged by the Manchester pick. The added power the Manchester player gave might very well be more valuable, but I agree, if for some reason, the people saw that Locastro had 11 steals as opposed to 36, and that influenced their decision, that's unfortunate. (And it's also unfortunate that CS don't seem to be taken into account)