Worst (1st, 2nd...etc.) Round Pairing(s)

ILive4This · February 27, 2007, 12:51:36 AM

It seems like some top teams on the top 25, or in the QOWI/RPI are facing each other in the first round, just wondering which pairing people feel is the most top heavy...i.e. one you would have prefered to see in the sweet 16 or later.

John Gleich · February 27, 2007, 01:01:09 AM

Why only put three options? (4 with the "other"...) Almost out of principle, I'm going to pick the "other" category, because the sheer possibility of it being one of the OTHER games is a lot better. How about Oxy/Mississippi College? Oxy should have, at the very least, gotten MHB. The "fix" is better than the original posted bracket, but far from perfect. It appears to flyin the face of the "seeds"...

ILive4This · February 27, 2007, 10:20:23 AM

I feel as though salem state with a bye is bad but not terrible, they were ranked 2nd in the region by the ncaa regardless of whether you like that or not. Also it may be based on tradition a little bit, this is a school that has gone to the tournament a number of times and gotten very far as well.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 27, 2007, 10:41:55 AM

Salem and the bye wasn't good, but Lake Erie and the bye is even worse.

tigerphil · February 27, 2007, 11:31:58 AM

I don't necessarily like how the Sectionals are set-up. All three ODAC teams are in the same Sectional, I don't like how you have to play teams from your conference early in the tournament. I understand the travel rules, but come on, some people have posted on other sites that their could be a possible fifth match-up between two teams this year, that is utterly absurd.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 27, 2007, 11:34:07 AM

Quote from: tigerphil on February 27, 2007, 11:31:58 AM
I don't necessarily like how the Sectionals are set-up. All three ODAC teams are in the same Sectional, I don't like how you have to play teams from your conference early in the tournament. I understand the travel rules, but come on, some people have posted on other sites that their could be a possible fifth match-up between two teams this year, that is utterly absurd.

That's only because they're in the same conference, met in the tournament final AND scheduled another non-conference game on top of it. Don't believe their fans, Hope and Calvin really do love each other.

fcnews · February 27, 2007, 11:34:41 AM

How about Wash U. ? A team that is the conference champions of a league that get's four teams in. Reward. You get to play the school next door. They are actually 30 meters a part. Seperated by the width of Wydown Blvd. which is two lanes. Fontbonne played well with Wash U. earlier before falling to the Bears by 15. In that game, FU's Trevor White saw limited action and had zero field goals due to a groin injury. White is now the SLIAC NOY, All - Conf., All- Tourney and ranked 8th in the nation from 3's. Not bad for a fr. 6'5 G/F. I can't imagine Wash U. wanting to be in this situation at all. Remember these two schools do have history. 2001 Fontbonne womens team stopped Wash U's 82 game win streak and went on to reach the sweet sixteen that year.

This pairing definately saved the NCAA some much needed travel funds.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 27, 2007, 11:36:29 AM

Quote from: fcnews on February 27, 2007, 11:34:41 AM
This pairing definately saved the NCAA some much needed travel funds.

I wonder if Fontbonne will still put their kids in a hotel? I totally would. Does the NCAA have a minimum travel distance to pay for lodging?

fcnews · February 27, 2007, 11:43:42 AM

It is basically considered as the same as hosting. Without the PERKS. Thanks for the game day meal NCAA. This is an on going joke with the NCAA and FU. FU's volleyball team ,that was regionally ranked, got to take this nice trip in three out of four straight years. I really expected to see Chicago or MS. College in the first round. But hey, we're in.

tigerphil · February 27, 2007, 11:44:30 AM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 27, 2007, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: tigerphil on February 27, 2007, 11:31:58 AM
I don't necessarily like how the Sectionals are set-up. All three ODAC teams are in the same Sectional, I don't like how you have to play teams from your conference early in the tournament. I understand the travel rules, but come on, some people have posted on other sites that their could be a possible fifth match-up between two teams this year, that is utterly absurd.

That's only because they're in the same conference, met in the tournament final AND scheduled another non-conference game on top of it. Don't believe their fans, Hope and Calvin really do love each other.

That might be the case, but still five match-ups in one year is a little too much, even four which could happen the second round if Hampden-Sydney and Virginia Wesleyan both win. A Fourth match-up shouldn't happen in the second round of the tournie

sac · February 27, 2007, 11:47:52 AM

I think most D3's take advantage of the lodging.

Storytime
Calvin played at the Albion sectional in 2005 and stayed in a hotel near Albion, despite being just a 2 hour drive from home. After winning on Friday night, they had all day Saturday to kill, so the coach loaded the kids on the team bus and they spent a few hours driving up and down Interstate-94 watching movies to kill time. Probably longer than the drive from Grand Rapids would have taken.

Not only do most school take advantage of the lodging, some enhance them and stay at much nicer hotels.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 27, 2007, 11:54:14 AM

I'm guessing the NCAA might have a minimum distance though, something like 35 miles or whatever.

fcnews · February 27, 2007, 12:00:14 PM

There is a Ritz Carleton in Clayton, Mo. On second thought. Wydown Blvd. is the boundery that seperates Clayton from University City. So we are traveling out of town.

Pat Coleman · February 27, 2007, 12:21:10 PM

Quote from: tigerphil on February 27, 2007, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 27, 2007, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: tigerphil on February 27, 2007, 11:31:58 AM
I don't necessarily like how the Sectionals are set-up. All three ODAC teams are in the same Sectional, I don't like how you have to play teams from your conference early in the tournament. I understand the travel rules, but come on, some people have posted on other sites that their could be a possible fifth match-up between two teams this year, that is utterly absurd.

That's only because they're in the same conference, met in the tournament final AND scheduled another non-conference game on top of it. Don't believe their fans, Hope and Calvin really do love each other.

That might be the case, but still five match-ups in one year is a little too much, even four which could happen the second round if Hampden-Sydney and Virginia Wesleyan both win. A Fourth match-up shouldn't happen in the second round of the tournie

Phil, this just isn't Division I. We're not going to send HSC to Boise so they can get out of the bracket.

tigerphil · February 27, 2007, 11:45:35 PM

Pat

I know that it isn't D1, nor do I ever expect it to be. I just would like to not have to face an ODAC opponent in the second round of the tournament. It was nice years ago when HSC may have faced Randolph Macon College in the Sectional Final hosted at RMC, but I guess when three teams from your conference make it, its hard not to get them to meet so early especially with the travel rules and VWC only being about a 4 hour drive from HSC. I guess thats just the D1 in me wanting to see conference matches later in the tournament. That said, HSC and VWC may not even play in the second round if they don't take care of business in the first round (so my argument could be null and void).