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BoomerIL

Bob Maxwell....

I do "bet" for food, no money!!!    ;D
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

BaseB13

Still not following VictoryLane's reasoning that Rochester needs to get by RPI.  If Rochester wants to win the conference tournament they need to be more worried about getting by St Lawrence and Skidmore, who have won the conference the last three years and have also been 5 of the 6 finalist teams in the last 3 years.  As for this transfer player,  rumor has it he is a "physical presence", a big guy, who may mash in BP, but I have not heard that there is much more to him than that as of yet.  The only way to prove it is to get the job done against live pitching in the games which have yet to be played. 

VictoryLane

i agree.  practice meands nothing for any sport.  only games.  rochester had to get a few freshmen come in just to prepare for the backlog the next years.   NO new guys have chances?  or is it because all starters back?

As far as my RPI comments they are always the best in regular season and with jv team and all they prepare kids better.   So their soph/jun come in and hit ground running vs sitting on pines whole year.   double elimination playoffs - the best team don't always win

BoomerIL

BaseB13....

I agree with your comments.  We can speculate all we want, but it only counts on the field!


VictoryLane....

When make a good point when you talk about RPI "hitting the ground running."  I had forgotten about their JV players.
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

VictoryLane

boomer,

hey sorry about that situation i put you in.  i hadrs  no idea how or what your affiliation was to rochester.  I just heard second hand about a guy.  your son's numbers were outstanding last year, went back and looked. you have nothing to worry about!  good luck this year.

RPI def hits the ground running.

Greg

BoomerIL

VictoryLane....

You didn't put me in any situation, really.  There are no hard feelings!!  When we post our views or opinions on these boards, there just that, views or opinions.  We are all entitled to them and should respect one another no matter if we agree or disagree with them.

You and I have had a mild debate about how RPI will finish this coming season.  Others have contributed to this conversation.  Again, those opinions are appreciated and taken with respect for the party who is giving them.  I hope you are wrong in your analysis about RPI, but that is only because my son plays for Rochester.  I hope you can appreciate that.   :)

I have stated before that RPI has some great talent and some of those kids don't get the credit they deserve.  I think the same holds true for the St.Lawrance, Skidmore, Union, and even some of the Rochester players.  I appreciate your comments about my son and his play, he did well as a freshman.  He was never a lead-off guy in high school, so he knows that he needs to be more of an "on base" guy this year.  He was somewhat disappointed in his offensive numbers and hopes to improve upon them as well.  I'm concerned though about the 'sophomore slump' theory myself.

No matter who plays where, Rochester on paper looks better than they did a year ago.  IF, everyone stays healthy, plays great defense, and HITS, they should be in it at the end for conference.  BUT, isn't that what all of the teams across the nation are trying to do as well in their conferences??  Getting into the tournament would be a major bonus!!    8)
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

VictoryLane

boomer

any other infielders or pitchers that have made a good impression (new comers); any additional speed on bases?

w/  your pitchers back and starters you should contend again.

Thanks,
VIctory

pavanyks

Best Freshmen Class

Has to go to RPI in my opinion.

Ciezko, Stroud, Marchese in the infielder and catcher positions (Cieszko and Marchese both catch).  Marchese can play inf as well.

Agenta and Carey pitching

and in the outfield brock and cody.

These guys should help continue to build the RPI program.

Good Job rpi.

BaseB13

Pavanyks since you seem to be very familiar with all of the teams freshman classes can you please shed some light on what the other schools brought in and how some fo these players are?

VictoryLane

Can each team post what incoming freshmen they have and who they feel might have impact on there team this year?

RPI is posted above:

Skidmore:  2 of last 3 titles and they were young to begin with; Rubenstien Utility; Arena Catcher, Darin, Brucoto, Sullivan, Laracuente,  pitcher; zach brown (from Victor) - Look for brown to push for time early. If they are going to compete this year, 1 or 2 of these pitchers may have to step into starting roles.

Hamilton: Mancini infielders,   Tomaszewski, Vigneau pitchers,  Perkowski  outfield Currier Catcher.  Small class like rochester, expect them to fight for time.

Clarkson: Grosweski, Giovannone,  Pitkin, Baldwin, Moldoff, Laclair, Goergold, mcinereney Ptichers,  Falteisek outfield, Clarkson obviously beefed up in the pitching department.  They will be pressed into action early.  We will see who emergens.

Rochester: Larioni infielder, Just catcher, Chanatry,Cacciola, Wesler pitchers, Francis outfield; Liverpool and North syracuse had great highschool teams so they maybe pretty good.  Pitchng is solid at rochester, so the new guys will lprobably be asked for middle relief.  But rochester has all starters back so i don't see anyone on this list participating except maybe pitchers early. 

St lawarence Fitzgerald, Ludwig, Hewins, outfielders, Skelly, Cook, Landers pitchers, 2 catchers with Fedo and Shimkin; and Kelly and broedel in INF.  Big glass, 3 of these guys will be in the starting lineup on opening day.

Union:  Moran utility; Goldman, Lefebvre, Johnston, Disalvio, Wyman, outfield class (expect these guys to be in the lineup, with only Tillo coming back. Lounsbury infield, and Rogers pitchers


VictoryLane

My picks for players of the year: 

Top picks

Zack Tillo Union, Ken Carroll RPI,


Top picks

Joe Zongol RPI, John Dreimmiler RPI, Veenema Rochester

John McGraw

Quote from: VictoryLane on March 01, 2008, 06:54:25 PM
Hamilton: Mancini infielders,   Tomaszewski, Vigneau pitchers,  Perkowski  outfield Currier Catcher.  Small class like rochester, expect them to fight for time.

Hamilton's baseball team competes in the NESCAC.

VictoryLane

You are correct. My bad ...

BaseB13

Looks like Skidmore and Vassar are both playing today..  Can't find any information on how Vassar is going.. Skidmore is playing @ Stevens.. Live play by play stats at stevensducks.com  Skidmore is up 10 to 4 in the top of the 8th.  I checked Skidmore's line up and they arent batting two of their best hitters from last year.  Looks like Ferri is not playing (he is a hockey player also so he probably didnt make the trip I think).. Marcus isnt playing in game one either.  I bet thats because he is pitching game 2. 

Stevens is in the E8 now so do they count as an in region game for everyone in NY? Looks like they lost to Kean 4 to 3 the other day...

Victory- Ludwig at St Lawrence will be a good player for them.. He was very good at Victor.  I don't see Brown from Victor playing much for Skidmore.  They're 2b is not playing today and they have a sophomore playing there instead so he may be a couple years away.  Liverpool and N Syracuse do have good programs so those players at Rochester are probably decent at worst.

anonymous234

Edit:  Ferri, Mendell, Goldman are all sophomores.  Seems like z brown has some talent, unfortunately he is behind a logjam.