BB: LL: Liberty League

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scuba16

Quote from: StarvinMarvin on November 28, 2008, 10:13:25 PM
I believe the regionals will be played at SUNY Farmingdale.  It's an all turf complex, very nice!
If that is true it is ridiculous! As usual it will be the Sunyac champ and LL champ pool A and usually IC (E-8 champ) pool B. If another team happens to win the Sunyac besides Cortland or the LL has 2 very strong teams and one of them garners a pool C bid, your going to make 3-4 upstate teams travel to L.I. to play the regional? If your talking about cost, thats alot of $ to pay for 3-4 upstate teams travel to L.I.! Also the problem I have with turf is that it is nice when there is snow on the ground and you are playing when no one else is but you can't find a bad hop and it makes a average fielder a superstar! 
In sports it's not how you start, its how you finish!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: scuba16 on November 29, 2008, 03:54:35 PM
Quote from: StarvinMarvin on November 28, 2008, 10:13:25 PM
I believe the regionals will be played at SUNY Farmingdale.  It's an all turf complex, very nice!
If that is true it is ridiculous! As usual it will be the Sunyac champ and LL champ pool A and usually IC (E-8 champ) pool B. If another team happens to win the Sunyac besides Cortland or the LL has 2 very strong teams and one of them garners a pool C bid, your going to make 3-4 upstate teams travel to L.I. to play the regional? If your talking about cost, thats alot of $ to pay for 3-4 upstate teams travel to L.I.! Also the problem I have with turf is that it is nice when there is snow on the ground and you are playing when no one else is but you can't find a bad hop and it makes a average fielder a superstar! 
With the expansion of the tournament, that will probably be an 8-team bracket, again. 

The New England region has 6 Pool A bids.  There may be some overflow into the New York bracket.

Last year, there were three upstate teams, but the NCAA bussed in Ohio Wesleyan, Grove City (PA), Eastern Connecticut State and Montclair (NJ) St, as well Farmingdale.  ECSU, Farmingdale and Montclair St are relatively close to LI.  Those travel costs to fill the bracket with 8 teams are almost a wash.

The Mid-Atlantic site has not been determined.

The NCAA seems to be moving the tourney sites around this year.   :)

spectator123

Quote from: StarvinMarvin on November 28, 2008, 10:13:25 PM
I believe the regionals will be played at SUNY Farmingdale.  It's an all turf complex, very nice!

I'm confused...why would Old Westbury be the host playing at Farmingdale?

John McGraw

Quote from: spectator123 on December 05, 2008, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: StarvinMarvin on November 28, 2008, 10:13:25 PM
I believe the regionals will be played at SUNY Farmingdale.  It's an all turf complex, very nice!

I'm confused...why would Old Westbury be the host playing at Farmingdale?

Who knows. We'll know more once the season and then the playoffs get closer.

spectator123

Quote from: John McGraw on December 05, 2008, 01:47:16 PM
Quote from: spectator123 on December 05, 2008, 09:22:54 AM
Quote from: StarvinMarvin on November 28, 2008, 10:13:25 PM
I believe the regionals will be played at SUNY Farmingdale.  It's an all turf complex, very nice!

I'm confused...why would Old Westbury be the host playing at Farmingdale?

Who knows. We'll know more once the season and then the playoffs get closer.
I thought I was missing something

scuba16

I guess if its going to be an 8 team regional again, maybe the travel woud be less if u have 4-5 ny teams, 1-2 mid atlantic team and 2-3 new england teams. L.I. would probably be geographically centered when u take all 8 teams travel into account. Its just a 5 hr trip for me to L.I. as opposed to a 1 hr trip to auburn!
In sports it's not how you start, its how you finish!

MMTPdthree

isnt SUNY Old Westbury hosting?  Where is all of this comming from about SUNY Farmingdale hosting it?  Regardless - its still on the island.

John McGraw

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Quote from: scuba16 on December 06, 2008, 01:09:53 PM
I guess if its going to be an 8 team regional again, maybe the travel woud be less if u have 4-5 ny teams, 1-2 mid atlantic team and 2-3 new england teams. L.I. would probably be geographically centered when u take all 8 teams travel into account. Its just a 5 hr trip for me to L.I. as opposed to a 1 hr trip to auburn!

It's been a while since anyone but the "Big Three" (Ithaca, RPI, cortland) hosted the regionals. I must admit, it's nice to have a change of scenery and have the regionals moved down to the tri-state area. Travel time will certainly be easier on any Mid-Atlantic or western New England schools that make the field. I don't see it being that bad of a hike for Ithaca or cortland though for eastern Ohio/western Pennsylvania schools it may be a long ride. Having the regional in Auburn made it a closer drive (at least last year) for Grove city and Ohio Wesleyan.

And I'm with you Scuba, it's about a five-hour trip from central New York to Long Island. Depending on the teams involved, I may sit this one out. That being said, I've missed only one of the last eight tournament's and that was because of graduation.

BoomerIL

Congratulations are in order for three University of Rochester players.

Blair Veenema - LHP
Dan Brien - 1B
Jay Jay Vanderstyne - 2B

They were selected by the Division III baseball coaches from across the country as "Players To Watch" in 2009 as listed in the January 2 issue of Collegiate Baseball newspaper.  The university is also listed as one of the "other top teams" for 2009.
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

John McGraw

Quote from: BoomerIL on January 01, 2009, 07:06:56 PM
Congratulations are in order for three University of Rochester players.

Blair Veenema - LHP
Dan Brien - 1B
Jay Jay Vanderstyne - 2B

They were selected by the Division III baseball coaches from across the country as "Players To Watch" in 2009 as listed in the January 2 issue of Collegiate Baseball newspaper.  The university is also listed as one of the "other top teams" for 2009.

No offense, but isn't that the list that includes 200-or-so players? I seem to remember Plattsburgh having eight on that list one year. Not to take anything away from those three players, but it's like Don Hansen's football selections, it's not as prestigious when everyone makes it.

BoomerIL

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John.....

You may not mean "no offense" but for some reason I don't think I want to believe you.  I sit and read all of these topics and posts of all the players that people give their opinions on, good and otherwise.  I decide to give some "props" to some of the Rochester kids, and you think its no big deal because there are 200+ players on the list.  The list in most cases has become a popularity contest in some respects.  It's safe to talk about the All-Americans because everyone wants to jump on their bandwagon.

Rochester has not been the "adoring" team like everyone wants to read or care about, but I do, and so do the players and parents!  You are probably one of the "voters" that didn't give them any consideration for the post season either.  Sure, they lost games they should have won, and they lost in the conference tournament that they hosted for a chance to get into the regional.  A telling tale which I'm sure you might say, "I told you so!"

If those names listed in the Collegiate Baseball newspaper are not important to you, then what is?  All those 200+ players seem to have garnered some acolades from a source other than the D3 website.  Hard to believe, isn't it!

No offense John, but I took offense, and I took offense at the fact that the three Rochester players did get some recognition from someone other than you.  I used to read your posts with some interest, but now I can say that your post's are no more "prestigious" than anyone elses!   :D
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

Big Louie

boomer to help clear some things up....the players UR has listed were put on that list by their head coach as players he thought would have big seasons. There is no voting or anything involved its just up to the head coach to put whoever he wants on the list, like John said Plattsburgh had like 8 guys listed one year, anyone can be on the list as long as his head coach thinks hes worthy of it.

BoomerIL

D3 Guy......

Your input is very helpful in understanding how some things work!!!  If I come across a sbeing nieve, well then so be it.  I try to understand how things work in college baseball/sports, and it seems that there is no real straight information as to how the system/process works.

I appreciate the clarification very much!  I was trying to give the UR kids some attention for their hard work, just like the other players listed received.  It seems that their are certain schools that get most of the attention, and I can understand that based upon their past history of performance.  UR has not been one of those schools.  Their program has gotten better, but has squandered opportunities to get to the next level.

If the listed players is Collegiate Baseball newspaper is no big deal, then it must be no big deal.  I will take that with a grain-of-salt from now on.

Thanks again "D3" for the clarification on how those players are selected!
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

Big Louie

Boomer i know where your coming from, it would be nice to see some other NY region teams garner some respect but until they can win consistently that probably won't happen. The Liberty League is going to have RPI, the SUNYAC will have Cortland, and the Empire 8 Ithaca, it just seems like every year come tourney time those teams are always in leaving the rest of us to wait for next year. It's nice to see a program like Rochester pushing to make the regionals.

BoomerIL

Like I said, they had an excellent chance last season and didn't do it.  It was a very good team.  Losing Pete won't help, but like I believe, "one player does not make a team, but one player can make a difference."

The recruits for this season are supposed to be pretty good.  The bats should do as well as last season, and the pitching with Veenama, Park, and Guzski should do very well.  The question mark really comes from the 4th, or even the 5th starter.  Relief pitching will hopefully have improved.

It was tough losing in the conference tournament, especially after beating RPI 3 of 4, which I happily add was no fluke.  I would have loved to have seen them play Cortland, but those contests have been rained out the last two years.  This seasons schedule is average at best, with some interesting fill-ins  ::), but it wouldn't hurt to get some more "good" competition.
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra