BB: LL: Liberty League

RSSmith · April 26, 2009, 08:21:30 PM

Quote from: John McGraw on April 25, 2009, 05:31:05 PM
Quote from: John McGraw on April 24, 2009, 11:21:05 AM
Any at-large team has to become a big Millsaps fan this weekend, especially after Millsaps' loss to centre.

Millsaps has been knocked out of its' conference tournament. Not good news for any prospective Pool c teams nationally.

Ditto for Wheaton (MA) and WPI.

AlleyCat · April 27, 2009, 08:31:46 AM

The playoff spots are still up for grabs besides Rochester and RPI. Rochester had a great weekend and RPI swept a split doubleheader from 2 down state teams Old Westbury and St Joe's LI. Clarkson and St Lawrence is going to be a battle for a playoff spot and Skidmore plays RPI.

Looks like the Tourney will be at RPI

3 teams 2 spots on the final weekend

BaseB13 · April 27, 2009, 12:59:44 PM

Anyone know the scenarios for the teams? I see Clarkson has 4 games to play but that will not total 24 games.. So it comes down to winning percentage against each opponent correct and then averaged? Not the actual winning percentage. Im assuming Clarkson is not making those games up? It looks like if SLU or Clarkson sweeps the other then Skidmore is in. If some splits occur then it gets confusing. Clarkson and Skidmore obviously have their own destiny in their hands...

AlleyCat · April 27, 2009, 01:30:16 PM

From what it looks like by the conference standings they are only going by winning % this year and not against each team like in the past. RPI and Rochester are already in and depending on this weekend any of those other 3 teams can get in based on what happens.

AlleyCat · April 30, 2009, 07:37:51 AM

Rochester(29-11) beats St John Fisher(17-16) 5-4 and RPI(28-8) beats Williams(21-9) 5-3. Two more good wins for the Liberty League leaders.

nyy2344nyy · May 03, 2009, 05:24:24 PM

Rochester beats St. John Fisher on Friday night to set the single season UR record for wins with a 30 - 11 record.

Liberty League Tournament playoff spots # 3 and # 4 go down to the last day of the season for Skidmore, Clarkson, and St. Lawrence. Just doesn't get any better than that!

BaseB13 · May 03, 2009, 09:19:48 PM

So looks like RPI vs. Skidmore and Rochester vs. Clarkson to start the tournament off.. Anyone know how Rochester was able to play 41 games in the regular season? This maybe because part of their schedule is the UAAs?

nyy2344nyy · May 03, 2009, 11:46:21 PM

Quote from: BaseB13 on May 03, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
So looks like RPI vs. Skidmore and Rochester vs. Clarkson to start the tournament off.. Anyone know how Rochester was able to play 41 games in the regular season? This maybe because part of their schedule is the UAAs?

This is how I understand it to be:

The UAA tournament - 6 games - as an in season tournament, does not count in to the total games played from an NCAA perspective, so 41 - 6 = 35, saving 5 games for the LL tournament, which is the most a team could possibly play, if coming out of the losers bracket to win the first game on Sunday and play again for the championship, for a grand total of 40.

Surprisingly, UR was able to get all of their games in despite the upstate NY weather. Some were rescheduled, but all were played!

Can anyone confirm this to be true?

Thanks!

John McGraw · May 04, 2009, 10:18:31 AM

Quote from: BaseB13 on May 03, 2009, 09:19:48 PM
So looks like RPI vs. Skidmore and Rochester vs. Clarkson to start the tournament off.. Anyone know how Rochester was able to play 41 games in the regular season? This maybe because part of their schedule is the UAAs?

I wouldn't be surprised to see an upset in the first round this weekend which should make for an interesting tournament in Troy. While RPI did take three of four from Skidmore, the Engineers dropped the opening game of the series, 9-1. And Clarkson played Rochester extremely tough earlier this year and the two teams split the season series.

BoomerIL · May 04, 2009, 11:43:27 AM

It will be an interesting tournament. UR played great against RPI despite the 1 and 3 record. That record could have gone the other way. Yes, Clarkson is a very good team. Will they be the spoiler for UR, and will Skidmore spoil RPI's Liberty League title chances. I do think that RPI will get an invite to the regional tournamentanyway if they lose.

But I'm confused as to why RPI plays Skidmore twice on Friday, a 7 and 9 inning game, or is this a typo??

BaseB13 · May 04, 2009, 01:12:31 PM

Have to agree with John. Obviously RPI is the favorite. They've had an impressive season. The UR Clarkson game should be a dogfight. Looks like Veenema is back for UR and is throwing well though. Wonder who will start game 1 for each team? Skidmore/RPI should be close as well. If Reilly throws for Skidmore I think it will be a battle. He beat them Friday and beat them in the opener of the LL tournament a couple years ago. The interesting thing for the Skid/RPI game is they just played four so there shouldn't be many surprises. Both teams should know what to expect pitching wise...

John McGraw · May 04, 2009, 02:20:18 PM

Quote from: BoomerIL on May 04, 2009, 11:43:27 AM
But I'm confused as to why RPI plays Skidmore twice on Friday, a 7 and 9 inning game, or is this a typo??

I would assume so.

nyy2344nyy · May 04, 2009, 09:36:07 PM

Does anyone know why the tournament was 3 games on Friday last year @ Rochester and 3 games on Saturday this year @ RPI? Is it up to the host team? Are there any advantages to which day has 3 games? I think that last year RPI won 2 on Friday, had Saturday off and then beat St. Lawrence in the first game on Sunday. I guess that with the 3 games on Saturday nobody will have an off day!

John McGraw · May 04, 2009, 10:50:23 PM

Quote from: nyy2344nyy on May 04, 2009, 09:36:07 PM
Does anyone know why the tournament was 3 games on Friday last year @ Rochester and 3 games on Saturday this year @ RPI? Is it up to the host team? Are there any advantages to which day has 3 games? I think that last year RPI won 2 on Friday, had Saturday off and then beat St. Lawrence in the first game on Sunday. I guess that with the 3 games on Saturday nobody will have an off day!

You answered your own question. No one will have an off day. It's completely unfair to have team A play two games on a Friday (in this case, RPI last year), get Saturday off and then just need to win once on Sunday to go the regional playoffs. This way, everyone's playing on the first two days of the tournament and no one will have that day off advantage.

BaseB13 · May 06, 2009, 10:46:07 PM

The three day format on friday was designed for weather issues. If the tournament got rained out after Friday there would atleast be a team with two wins and they could easily grant a tournament champion rather than simply giving it to the highest seed with one win. The SUNYAC has bounced back from this format as well. Not sure why they switched back to the two games on friday this year. I see benefits to both sides. Frankly I think the three games on Friday is not a bad idea. Declaring a conference winner by default due to weather is never a good thing and since the LL tournament is the last possible weekend there is no room for bad weather.