BB: LL: Liberty League

[Ron Ron]

Skidmore downs Rochester 6-5, Rochester playing Clarkson as we speak, then winner has to take 2 from Skidmore.

[John McGraw]

Clarkson 4 Rochester 0
Top 6

[John McGraw]

Final
Clarkson 8 Rochester 0

Clarkson vs. Skidmore tomorrow for the title. Clarkson has to win twice, Skidmore once.

[airball55]

I think Clarkson could get two, they still have Chudy, a freshman back.  Tough hill to climb though.  Not to surprised by this outcome, I thought Clarkson, Rochester and Skidmore were fairly even teams.  Good season for Rochester though, regular season champs and almost got to the 30 win mark. 

[Ron Ron]

Skidmore has Laracuente and a relatively rested bullpen to go for 1 win in 2 tries.

No chance Rochester gets an at-large right?  Another failed opportunity in the LL tourney.  Just adds to the "Can't win the big one" label and adds to why they aren't on the national attention level of cortland, ithaca, etc that upset Boomer.  Good season for them, maybe next year is the year.

[airball55]

I don't think so Ron man.  Too man upsets elsewhere with teams that may take those spots.  Besides, Cortland is already probably in from this region and I don't see the NCAA giving our beloved NY region 3 at at larges (Cortland C, Fisher B).  John would be able to speak to this better but I don't see it.

[DefenseWins]

Saw the end of the UR Skidmore game today as well as the whole Clarkson UR game......

UR just looked mentally and physically defeated from the game against skidmore....Judging by the line, Marcus handled them well to improve to 9-2 i believe.

in the second game clarskon just capitalized all game, UR had more hits but nothing to show, and as i saw towards the end of the skidmore game they were jus unable to get runners in. I would like to know they runners left on base combined for the two games. UR didnt show up today and it showed.

Congrats to Skidmore and Clarkson for making it to the championship...Clarkson still has Chudy as someone mentioned, although i cant believe he hasnt pitched yet, is he hurt? and skidmore still has laracuente, brucato who threw a little on fri. and a rested bullpen. gotta give the edge to skidmore tomorrow as most winners bracket champs usually have

Skidmore wins game 1.......7-4

[reddragon00]

Saw the Skidmore UR game today.  Teams looked pretty even and Rochester hit balls all over just couldn't  get anything to drop...Tough loss and they never got it back together.  Looking athte ROster that has youth written all over it.  Could be skidmore's year!!  As to someone point about coaching....Plourde is a decent coach but with those 4 horses he has, Doorey could win with them!! Good season UR but you have got to win the big one.  They return a lot so could make a run at it next year!

[Ron Ron]

OK Trider, the award goes for the regular season, not the post season.  Sure Skidmore was lucky to take 3-4 from UR in the Regular season, but UR was able to sweep St Lawrence (Skidmore 2-2), RPI (Skidmore 2-2), Union (Skidmore 3-1), and Vassar (Skidmore 3-1), sure looks like UR accomplished a whole ton more in the REGULAR SEASON which is what the award is for.  You can't tell me the Skidmore coaching staff is better in the REGULAR SEASON when they lost one to Vassar and Union, and split with St. Law, when UR swept all of the above.  There is a reason UR held the LL tournament because they were the best team in the REGULAR SEASON and that is what the award is for, the REGULAR SEASON.

And I have no idea why UR didn't shake hands.  I am not a UR supporter like boomer and all the rest Trider, I just think whatever team hosts the tournament clearly had the best REGULAR SEASON and therefore should have the coaching staff honored.  UR also graduated a ton last year.  Skidmore, not so much.  A great catcher, an OK bullpen arm, and a starting pitcher who wouldn't have been in the starting rotation this year.  UR lost a lot more and played a lot better during the REGULAR SEASON.  That, Trider, is why UR's coaching staff deserved the award, not Skidmore.  How can you argue with my logic about the REGULAR SEASON?

Also, Trider, according to your logic, UR should have 0 non-conference players because they aren't playing anymore, and instead Clarkson and Skidmore should have every single all-conference players because they are still playing.  Then, when one team wins, their whole roster should be the all-conference players, because they are the team that is still playing, so clearly they deserve the all conference nods.  But hey, apparently you're the expert Trider, since your logic makes so much sense.  

[BBFan62]

Well, even though the outcome is not what we wanted, Rochester had a decent season. Congratulations to Skidmore and Clarkson; good luck to both teams.
In answer to DefenseWins, Rochester left a total of 19 men on base in the games yesterday, 11 of them in game two. We had chances but did not do what we needed to do. We will miss the 4 seniors graduating today. All 4 were starters for a number of years; fine athletes and students. Great guys.
Having said that, next year should be another very competitive year in the Liberty League. I am a bit concerned about replacing the 3 senior position players, but we do have some good, young talent.
Our pitching staff will only lose 1 player. Two of our starters were Freshmen and our closer was also a Freshman. If you look at the conference game stats you will see the 3 returning starters were a combined 15-2 in conference games and all 3 were in the top 10 for low ERA. One of the Freshman starters was also our DH, moving into that position in the middle of the season. Hopefully they can build on what they went through this year and learn to "win the big one". Being a Cub fan, I'm used to saying "wait 'til next year"!

[Truthfinder]

Skidmore wins it, is that their third in five or six years? They have to be the standard in the LL now. But more importantly, you know that didn't go over well in Plattsburgh. Rochester deserves a Pool C look, but who knows what'll happen tonight.

[airball55]

Skidmore has had a heck of a season.  They sneak by Clarkson in two close games.  Let's hope that they get a couple of W's in the regional.  They will run up against some good offensive clubs but from the outside looking in it appears they have a shot in NY this season.  Clarkson has to be encouraged with the freshman Chudy and will be back next year.  I can't see any scenario where Plattsburgh or Rochester gets any consideration for pool C with the upsets around the country but we will see tonight. 

[URFlorida]

Congratulations to Skidmore ... well deserved tournament win.  I wish them continued success as they represent the Liberty League.

[airball55]

I just read the d3 projections for the at large bids.  Great stuff.  Amazing how fast they calculate.  I don't agree with the last selections however.  They also have Skidmore as the 8 seed in the east behind teams like Brockport, Ithaca??  Yikes.  They also have Plattsburgh in over Rochester which I also don't believe.  Rochester finished higher in their conference, played a much more challenging non-league schedule and won the regular season league title.  They also won a tournament game.  If Plattsburgh gets in, first of all congrats, but.... I think teams like U of R would be rushing next year to schedule the Keuka's, Medialle's etc. and not the Fisher's, Brockports, etc... out of conference.  Plus, truthfinder would hang himself and although we all have fun on here, we wouldn't want Truthfinder to do that!!

Regional records need to be recalculated and re-evaluated.  In the current system, Plattsburgh may get in for a weak Florida schedule that counts as in region games (most of them) and big non league wins against St. Lawrence and St. Michaels (and those games don't count).  They did get unlucky some with Old Westbury and Mt. St. Mary's struggling at the end of the year which hurt that sweep they had early.  Castleton and Clarkson (who is good) smacked them pretty bad midweek. 

[Ron Ron]

Yeah how is Skidmore an 8 seed according to these projections?  3 years ago they were 21-19 or something close and were a 5 or 6 seed, and now that they are 30-13, they fall to an 8 seed? Getting passed by the likes of Plattsburgh, Ithaca, Brockport, etc? Definitely disagree with that.  Depending on who comes in from other areas, Skid should probly be a 3 behind Cortland and SJF.  Also, Rochester should make it over Plattsburgh.  Plattsburgh's league record was a joke, they don't deserve it.  Would love for my team in the NY regional to play them first round though, might as well be a bye... (Them's fighting words, I know, haha).