BB: LL: Liberty League

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spectator123

Quote from: AlleyCat on February 13, 2009, 08:38:55 AM
To really be a contender in a league that plays 4 game sets you need at least 3 quality starters and 3 out of the pen minimum.  Top 4 go to the Tourney and its a double elimination 3 day tourney I believe. Even then you need 3 starters and a good pen to be a contender. In a 8 team regional you need more than that.  4 or 5 quality starters and 4 or 5 quality relievers. If you don't have that, you better win every game.

Rochester and RPI has good pitching depth although both lost its dominant #1 from last year.
That's a lot of arms...I guess a good defense makes it easier.
Do teams win by just out hitting their opponents...I doubt it

BoomerIL

The Rochester Yellowjackets are off to strong start this spring. With two doubleheader conference wins in St. Petersburg, FL against Skidmore this past weekend, 9-8, 26-3, 8-4, 6-3, and adding a 10-7 win over Emory and 16-2 win over Case Western Reserve yesterday in Rochester's UAA Conference games in Sanford, FL, the rest of the week hopes to be equally strong.  The hitting and pitching have been very, very strong.
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

BoomerIL

Yesterday UR finished their Florida trip, and captured the UAA Tournament title as well! It's been many years since they won this tournament.  Everyone contributed to this successful week. 

With a record of 4-0 against conference rival Skidmore the previous weekend in St.Pete, and the 4-2 record this week in Sanford, UR hopes to keep the momentum going into next weekends games.  The weather was fantastic, and hopefully going back home to play in the cold won't stall this really good team.

"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

AlleyCat

Like I said before Uof R is the team to beat this year. They have the arms and a good offense will make them tough to beat. Skidmore will rebound and make a run at the playoffs, they always do. It looks like RPI had some trouble replacing all the guys who graduated. The rest of the league is just beginning, so who knows.

Rochester should sweep this weekend over Cobleskill and be 11-2. St Lawrence is flying into Troy to play this weekend and those games should be good ones to start the league. Clarkson played pretty well against Cortland.

Bob Maxwell

I agree... Rochester is poised to have a very good year.  This year may be their turn to win the conference and participate in the regional.

nybaseball11

Question..... So how come there was not one article written on D3 Baseball about the UAA champion  Rochester Yellowjackets. The tournament wasn't even mentioned. (If there was an article and I missed it, please correct me). I think it is absurd that we all read articles about individual accolades across the country and there wasn't one mention of the tournament. Following the website for the last few years since is inception I have definitely noticed a serious bias hat exists. The bias of coverage transcends simply through the rankings and especially comes into play when it comes to regional selections. The lack on New York Coverage on the website is directly correlated to the snubbing of many New York teams come selection time at the end of the year. I don't know whether the blame should fall on the schools SID's or whether it falls elsewhere along the chain of coverage. But I truly think that it is a shame.

Congratulations to Rochester on wining the tournament.

Bob Maxwell

someone has to write it...  and it is almost impossible to write a story if you are not at the game.  Or at least ahve someone send you an outline of it.  Jim is always looking for stringers... just remember, if you offer to help you need to be objective with it and not write with a slant like some of the posts some put on the boards.

I am sure Jim will love the help... its just a hard thing to do if you don't keep score, take notes and then you have to get it in to him quickly after the game.  I don't knwo about most of us, but I'm usually driving home or eating for the next few hours after a game.

email jim and offer to help with stories... 

Bob Maxwell

One more thing... I belevie that they don't want to put the onus on any of the school SID's.  And I would think that they would prefer not to have them write the stories... just my tought on it. 

Ralph, Jim, any thoughts... seems like we may have someone interested in contributing???

John McGraw

Quote from: nybaseball11 on March 22, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
Question..... So how come there was not one article written on D3 Baseball about the UAA champion  Rochester Yellowjackets. The tournament wasn't even mentioned. (If there was an article and I missed it, please correct me). I think it is absurd that we all read articles about individual accolades across the country and there wasn't one mention of the tournament. Following the website for the last few years since is inception I have definitely noticed a serious bias hat exists. The bias of coverage transcends simply through the rankings and especially comes into play when it comes to regional selections. The lack on New York Coverage on the website is directly correlated to the snubbing of many New York teams come selection time at the end of the year. I don't know whether the blame should fall on the schools SID's or whether it falls elsewhere along the chain of coverage. But I truly think that it is a shame.

Congratulations to Rochester on wining the tournament.

Pete,

No blame should be placed on an SID here. At the time of the UAA tournament, Dennis O'Donnell, Rochester's great SID, was dealing mostly with the women's basketball tournament along with tons of other sports. UofR hosted games back-to-back weekends all while baseball and other spring sports were just getting going. It's not his job to get the information to us when it's already up on his own site.

As for why there was nothing on the web site. There's many Division III teams across the country and sometimes we just can't get to everything. We only have so many people on the staff that can cover stories. And most of the staff was busy the last few weekends with the men's and women's basketball tournament. Mostly, Jim Dixon is the lone front-page editor and there's only so much that Jim can get to.

I won't ever address the issue of bias because it's completely off base.

This all being said, I'll be seeing Rochester and cortland in person on Tuesday. 

AlleyCat

Well the Liberty League is underway and both Clarkson and RPI got off to good starts to go along with Rochesters early 4-0 start. Clarkson won 3 of 4 putting them in a good place early in the league season and unexpectedly RPI swept St Lawrence outscoring them 50-13.  Was anyone at those games? I'm wondering if RPI looked good after a very shaky start? St Lawrence always plays them tough from looking at past scores.


BoomerIL

I would have loved to have written about UR's Florida trip since I was there, but as usual, I feel that I would have been criticized for being to biased.

I will say though, this team will surprise many this year, and probably for a few more years to come.  They are deep in all positions, they can flat out hit (check the box scores), they have speed, defense has been shakey on occasion, but the pitching is the biggest surprise, to the good!!!!  O.K., so I'm a HOMER!!!!!  I also believe that the reason New York teams might not get enough mention is like Bob Maxwell stated, "someone has to write it."  But like anything else, the team has to continue to win, and prove that it is worthy of mention.

Rochesters's game at Cortland tomorrow has real meaning for both teams.  It will be interesting to see who Cortland pitches since Tone pitched the opener yesterday, and who the Yellowjackets start.  I really want to thank Cortland for having the game on CBS Gametracker, not being there for my first UR vs Cortland game is going to kill me!!!!! 
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

John McGraw

Quote from: BoomerIL on March 23, 2009, 03:49:34 PM
I would have loved to have written about UR's Florida trip since I was there, but as usual, I feel that I would have been criticized for being to biased.

I will say though, this team will surprise many this year, and probably for a few more years to come.  They are deep in all positions, they can flat out hit (check the box scores), they have speed, defense has been shakey on occasion, but the pitching is the biggest surprise, to the good!!!!  O.K., so I'm a HOMER!!!!!  I also believe that the reason New York teams might not get enough mention is like Bob Maxwell stated, "someone has to write it."  But like anything else, the team has to continue to win, and prove that it is worthy of mention.

Rochesters's game at Cortland tomorrow has real meaning for both teams.  It will be interesting to see who Cortland pitches since Tone pitched the opener yesterday, and who the Yellowjackets start.  I really want to thank Cortland for having the game on CBS Gametracker, not being there for my first UR vs Cortland game is going to kill me!!!!! 

You'll more than likely see mid-week guys for both teams seeing as how each team has a myriad of games coming up. While regional implications abound, both coaches I'm sure would rather save their top arms for conference games.

As for Gametracker, I'm pretty sure Cortland doesn't have LiveStats. There'll be an audio broadcast off Cortland's web site and I'll be blogging on D3baseball.com.

BoomerIL

Quote from: John McGraw on March 23, 2009, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: BoomerIL on March 23, 2009, 03:49:34 PM
I would have loved to have written about UR's Florida trip since I was there, but as usual, I feel that I would have been criticized for being to biased.

I will say though, this team will surprise many this year, and probably for a few more years to come.  They are deep in all positions, they can flat out hit (check the box scores), they have speed, defense has been shakey on occasion, but the pitching is the biggest surprise, to the good!!!!  O.K., so I'm a HOMER!!!!!  I also believe that the reason New York teams might not get enough mention is like Bob Maxwell stated, "someone has to write it."  But like anything else, the team has to continue to win, and prove that it is worthy of mention.

Rochesters's game at Cortland tomorrow has real meaning for both teams.  It will be interesting to see who Cortland pitches since Tone pitched the opener yesterday, and who the Yellowjackets start.  I really want to thank Cortland for having the game on CBS Gametracker, not being there for my first UR vs Cortland game is going to kill me!!!!! 

You'll more than likely see mid-week guys for both teams seeing as how each team has a myriad of games coming up. While regional implications abound, both coaches I'm sure would rather save their top arms for conference games.

As for Gametracker, I'm pretty sure Cortland doesn't have LiveStats. There'll be an audio broadcast off Cortland's web site and I'll be blogging on D3baseball.com.

As far as pitching, is Jweid available?  UR could be pitching their 3 or 4.

Yesterday during the Manhattanville games, I was following the action on CBS's Gametracker.  Maybe they won't have it available tomorrow?????
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

John McGraw

Manhattanville has a deal with CBS Sports Gametracker and that's the program they run their LiveStats feature through. A decent number of Division III schools have LiveStats programs and the same can be said for the number of schools that do not have live in-game stats available.

Cortland doesn't have LiveStats. But, like I said, I'll be live blogging tomorrow and there will also be a Cortland audio webcast of the game so there are means of tracking what's going on during the game.

BoomerIL

Well it was a real nice surprise to see Rochester ranked in the ABCA poll this week.  Although it is the first one of the year for the ABCA poll, I certainly hope it won't just be UR's first and only ranking in this poll this season.  Rochester also received votes earlier in the week in the D3 poll.

This weekends DH's with St.Lawrence should be good, however the two down the road with Clasrkson and RPI are going to be tough.  Clarkson played tough last season, and RPI is always in the top tier of the New York or national rankings.

St.John Fisher always gives UR headaches, and any conference game loss will definitely ruin a weekend.  I think if Rochester can win those tough games along with wins against Brockport and Ithaca, well lets just say that you're going to have many happy Yellowjackets fans in May!!
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra