BB: LL: Liberty League

Started by John McGraw, March 11, 2007, 11:40:18 PM

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Big Louie

John good thoughts, I still think Fredonia and Brockport have about as good of chances as Cortland does for at-large considerations, and both definately have better than Rochester IMO. Rochester has 10 region loses as of now and 2 more conference tournament loses would send them to 12 and thats if they win out during the rest of the regular season.

Fredonia has just 5 region loses and Brockport 7 while i believe Cortland is at like 6.

RPI should be a lock

John McGraw

Brockport 14-7 (.667)
Fredonia  11-6 (.647)

I don't see the SUNYAC getting two teams in. It hasn't happened since 2004 (Cortland/Brockport) and before that I believe it was 1996 (Cortland/Oswego).

There's too many good teams on the national level to allow the SUNYAC to get two teams into the NCAA tournament, especially if Cortland wins the SUNYAC tournament.

Big Louie

John I can't argue that the SUNYAC will get two teams. But we need to stop considering Rochester.  The only way two liberty league teams go is if RPI doesnt win the conference tourney. Rochester played themselves out of contention the last two weekends.

BaseB13

Boomer why has Veenema not been pitching the past two weeks?  Is he hurt?  Also, I'd say part of the reason Rochester's average dropped could have been from playing Union three weeks ago and then having to go play RPI and Clarskon.  The four game conference games can really cause a sway in team statistics.  Playing the weaker teams in the conference will give you an artificial boost and it will eventually even out after playing the tougher teams.  I'm sure UR's batting average will improve after four games versus Vassar.

Curious to see how the final 2 spots in the conference tournament shake out.  Last year it was ridiculously close.  I also would not say the tournament championship is going to simply come down to RPI or Rochester.  We've seen multiple times in the past few years that the #1 seed does not always win.  I think the conference tournament will be very interesting to watch.  That being said RPI does look pretty formidable.  I think Clarkson and Skidmore will finish out the top 4 spots in the conference and both will be difficult match ups for RPI and Rochester in the first games of the tournament.  That being said SLU still has a shot at making it in.

BoomerIL

Quote from: Double Play Dave on April 20, 2009, 05:26:45 PM
John I can't argue that the SUNYAC will get two teams. But we need to stop considering Rochester.  The only way two liberty league teams go is if RPI doesnt win the conference tourney. Rochester played themselves out of contention the last two weekends.
Quote from: BaseB13 on April 20, 2009, 08:13:18 PM
Boomer why has Veenema not been pitching the past two weeks?  Is he hurt?  Also, I'd say part of the reason Rochester's average dropped could have been from playing Union three weeks ago and then having to go play RPI and Clarskon.  The four game conference games can really cause a sway in team statistics.  Playing the weaker teams in the conference will give you an artificial boost and it will eventually even out after playing the tougher teams.  I'm sure UR's batting average will improve after four games versus Vassar.

Curious to see how the final 2 spots in the conference tournament shake out.  Last year it was ridiculously close.  I also would not say the tournament championship is going to simply come down to RPI or Rochester.  We've seen multiple times in the past few years that the #1 seed does not always win.  I think the conference tournament will be very interesting to watch.  That being said RPI does look pretty formidable.  I think Clarkson and Skidmore will finish out the top 4 spots in the conference and both will be difficult match ups for RPI and Rochester in the first games of the tournament.  That being said SLU still has a shot at making it in.

Double Play Dave.....

I hope your wrong about being out of contention.  I can't figure out why the bats went cold.  Just like the one game against Union, its not like they couldn't or didn't put the ball into play, they just kept hitting it to someone.  Credit goes to the pitchers in the Union and two Clarkson Games.


BaseB13....

I really don't know why he hasn't pitched.  I did here he wasn't feeling well before his start against RPI.  I know he is supposed to start against Ithaca tomorrow.  That's all I know.
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

John McGraw

Quote from: BoomerIL on April 20, 2009, 11:15:22 PM

I really don't know why he hasn't pitched.  I did here he wasn't feeling well before his start against RPI.  I know he is supposed to start against Ithaca tomorrow.  That's all I know.

Rain looking possible for tomorrow across the state. Hopefully this game is still played.

John McGraw

Ithaca vs. Rochester rescheduled for Thursday at 4pm.

John McGraw

Ithaca 15 Rochester 9

Ithaca scores seven runs in the eighth to erase a 9-7 Rochester lead.


BoomerIL

I really feel for the team.  Tough loss again, especially when they get out ahead on their number 1 pitcher.  I think they have only one chance left now, win the Liberty League. 
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

John McGraw

Quote from: BoomerIL on April 23, 2009, 09:56:22 PM
I really feel for the team.  Tough loss again, especially when they get out ahead on their number 1 pitcher.  I think they have only one chance left now, win the Liberty League. 

Pretty much.

Bob Maxwell

While I am always hopeful that the conferences in NY (especially the SUNYAC because I am a SUNYAC fan) will get two teams in.  I just don't see it happening this year... EVEN if the favorite gets upset in the tournament.  There isn't a team in the region that is ranked high enough and/or has strong enough numbers nationally to be there.  Disappointing as it is... I just don't see it happening.

John McGraw

Any at-large team has to become a big Millsaps fan this weekend, especially after Millsaps' loss to centre.

BoomerIL

Game 1

Rochester  16
Vassar  2

Game 2

Rochester  7
Vassar  0  Bottom 4
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

John McGraw

Quote from: John McGraw on April 24, 2009, 11:21:05 AM
Any at-large team has to become a big Millsaps fan this weekend, especially after Millsaps' loss to centre.

Millsaps has been knocked out of its' conference tournament. Not good news for any prospective Pool c teams nationally.

AlleyCat

RPI wins at Old Westbury 10-2