BB: LL: Liberty League

[airball55]

Clarkson has a traditional cut out now.  Actually, the best fields in the LL may be the northern ones at Clarkson and St. Lawrence.  U of R is a strange place indeed.  Short in left center then a bomb into right center.  Dugouts literally right on top of the plate.  The short RPI right field line is fun as well.

[baseballislife]

Word is U of R is getting a new field within three years max, maybe sooner.  It will field turf, which in the upstate new york climate should definitely be an advantage and eliminate some cancellations.

Lights, new dugouts and a clubhouse with recruit entertainment deck...should be very nice.

[URFlorida]

Rochester wins 2-games against Vasser today, the weather was cold and very windy ... the key difference in the games was Rochester's varied, offense approach.  They won both games, mixing in home runs (long balls), bunts and running the bases very aggresively (small ball) ... very impressive (kept Vasser off balance all day).  The pitching was solid, even more so when you factor in the weather ... very tough pitching conditions.

[Ron Ron]

How is cold weather poor pitching conditions?  In my opinion, that is great pitching conditions because that makes life on the hitter even worse.  URFlorida you must have never played baseball because if you did, you would understand that cold weather works against the hitter, not the pitcher.  UR pitching did a bad job against Vassar and the offense bailed them out, just admit it.  Cold Weather = pitcher friendly, all day everyday.

[BoomerIL]

Rochester wins 2-games against Vasser today, the weather was cold and very windy ... the key difference in the games was Rochester's varied, offense approach.  They won both games, mixing in home runs (long balls), bunts and running the bases very aggresively (small ball) ... very impressive (kept Vasser off balance all day).  The pitching was solid, even more so when you factor in the weather ... very tough pitching conditions.

How is cold weather poor pitching conditions?  In my opinion, that is great pitching conditions because that makes life on the hitter even worse.  URFlorida you must have never played baseball because if you did, you would understand that cold weather works against the hitter, not the pitcher.  UR pitching did a bad job against Vassar and the offense bailed them out, just admit it.  Cold Weather = pitcher friendly, all day everyday.

Ron Ron.....

That is exactly the point URFlorida was trying to make!!!!  Whether anyone played baseball or not, both teams pitchers have to have a difficult time with the cold weather.  If the pitcher's fingers/hands get cold, they lose some of the grip on their pitches, consequently losing some control.  That's just plain common sense!!  The hitters had the advantage with a number or well grooved pitches.  Another thing, no team is perfect.  If Rochester's pitchers struggle, and their offense puts up the runs, and then win the games, what difference does it make.  Everyone knows that pitching is key, but so is defense and putting up runs.  UR is averaging over 9 runs per game. 

[airball55]

Recruitment deck!!  Wow, wish I was going thru the playing college ball process again I want to ge to Rochester!  That's a nice move, they need a field there bad.  Liberty League has some nice facilities and they are getting better.  Maybe someday Skidmore will step up to the plate as well.

[pudge27]

Rochester wins 2-games against Vasser today, the weather was cold and very windy ... the key difference in the games was Rochester's varied, offense approach.  They won both games, mixing in home runs (long balls), bunts and running the bases very aggresively (small ball) ... very impressive (kept Vasser off balance all day).  The pitching was solid, even more so when you factor in the weather ... very tough pitching conditions.

How is cold weather poor pitching conditions?  In my opinion, that is great pitching conditions because that makes life on the hitter even worse.  URFlorida you must have never played baseball because if you did, you would understand that cold weather works against the hitter, not the pitcher.  UR pitching did a bad job against Vassar and the offense bailed them out, just admit it.  Cold Weather = pitcher friendly, all day everyday.

Ron Ron.....

That is exactly the point URFlorida was trying to make!!!!  Whether anyone played baseball or not, both teams pitchers have to have a difficult time with the cold weather.  If the pitcher's fingers/hands get cold, they lose some of the grip on their pitches, consequently losing some control.  That's just plain common sense!!  The hitters had the advantage with a number or well grooved pitches.  Another thing, no team is perfect.  If Rochester's pitchers struggle, and their offense puts up the runs, and then win the games, what difference does it make.  Everyone knows that pitching is key, but so is defense and putting up runs.  UR is averaging over 9 runs per game. 

Boomer.  Try to relax a bit.  I think URFlorida was trying to COMPLIMENT UR.  Not every post here is meant to criticize the Jackets.  UR is having a nice year.  Try to enjoy it a bit.

[Ron Ron]

The pitcher is out there every inning throwing pitches and staying warm.  The batter steps up every 9 guys to stand there after standing in the field the whole time.  Hitters don't have the opportunity to get/stay as warm as a pitcher.  It is also more painful for a hitter to hit in cold weather (especially with wood) than it is for a pitcher to pitch in cold weather.  Cooler weather is an advantage for pitchers (think October playoff baseball).  They just talked about this in the Sox/Rays game on TBS.

[airball55]

Remember, Vassar is in Florida and Rochester is in Texas.  It does get cold from time to time in NY.

[airball55]

RPI easy over Union.  Second game both secondaries struggled a bit, final score 26-13.  Rochester keeps rolling but Vassar resisted some.  If Vassar can get an arm or two, they will be a tough series.  St. Lawrence and Skidmore split and I would expect the same tomorrow.  Clarkson with a nice sweep of a hot Brockport team at home.  Clarkson is better then the sub .500 record and a team I would not want to face in the tournament. 

[BoomerIL]

Rochester wins 2-games against Vasser today, the weather was cold and very windy ... the key difference in the games was Rochester's varied, offense approach.  They won both games, mixing in home runs (long balls), bunts and running the bases very aggresively (small ball) ... very impressive (kept Vasser off balance all day).  The pitching was solid, even more so when you factor in the weather ... very tough pitching conditions.

How is cold weather poor pitching conditions?  In my opinion, that is great pitching conditions because that makes life on the hitter even worse.  URFlorida you must have never played baseball because if you did, you would understand that cold weather works against the hitter, not the pitcher.  UR pitching did a bad job against Vassar and the offense bailed them out, just admit it.  Cold Weather = pitcher friendly, all day everyday.

Ron Ron.....

That is exactly the point URFlorida was trying to make!!!!  Whether anyone played baseball or not, both teams pitchers have to have a difficult time with the cold weather.  If the pitcher's fingers/hands get cold, they lose some of the grip on their pitches, consequently losing some control.  That's just plain common sense!!  The hitters had the advantage with a number or well grooved pitches.  Another thing, no team is perfect.  If Rochester's pitchers struggle, and their offense puts up the runs, and then win the games, what difference does it make.  Everyone knows that pitching is key, but so is defense and putting up runs.  UR is averaging over 9 runs per game. 

Boomer.  Try to relax a bit.  I think URFlorida was trying to COMPLIMENT UR.  Not every post here is meant to criticize the Jackets.  UR is having a nice year.  Try to enjoy it a bit.

pudge27......

Please reread my post.  I was defending URFlorida's opinion.  Secondly, why is it when I post something, someone takes what I say out of context?  Realistically when you think about it, Ron Ron is correct as well.  They both have valid points.  Also, I know Ron Ron was not criticizing the UR!

[URFlorida]

I'm flattered that my relatively simple statement, complementing UR's varied offensive approach, stirred up so many additional comments.  This is fun ... Ron Ron, please bring it on ... I'd be more than happy to discuss baseball's "finer points" with you.  As for your comments regarding who has the advantage in cold weather, obviously you have never pitched.   

[Ron Ron]

College Pitcher and OF'er.  Have done both and will tell you I'd rather have to pitch on a cold day than hit on a cold day.  Just look at October baseball.  Most people will argue it is harder to hit in cold weather than it is to pitch in cold weather.

[Ron Ron]

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/temperature-effects/

[airball55]

Guys, we are digging way to deep into this weather stuff.  Our players, pitchers or hitters are used to playing in cold weather.  It is a disadvantage for both.  With under armor, batting gloves, etc... it is better than it used to be for hitters.  But, the game does slow down, for everyone.  A pitcher who usually sits 85 probably won't be throwing like that when the weather gets colder.  This is why southern D1 programs like northern pitchers, they aren't used to the year round nice weather and their upside is a bit higher.

Bottom line, I think Clarkson and St. Lawrence both would LOVE the temps. to be in the 40's when people travel north because those kids tend to be a bit more accustomed to it.  Good players will make plays regardless of the temperature.  Just my two cents I guess. 

BTW, Vassar should have got at least one in that series, they are improving.