BB: LL: Liberty League

[airball55]

Good stuff here guys.  Maybe these are some of the reasons Clarkson and Skidmore have represented the LL the past few years.  I am looking for Skidmore to surprise in the regional.  They are flying under the radar right now.  It is a whole different game though, they will have to score runs to do some damage there.  The game with Keene St. should be one of the best in the early rounds.

[BoomerIL]

Being at the games Saturday at Rochester, and seeing them lose was very difficult.  To hear that the team didn't shake hands after the Skidmore game is a disappointment as well.  Sportsmanship is a part of college baseball, and for that matter, a part of life.  As competitive of a battle that a baseball game may become, the teams need to end on neutral terms.  A handshake, good job, good battle, the best team won today.

I'm not defending what did or didn't happen, but I will say that this is highly uncharacteristic of the team, Rochester, and especially Coach Reina.  They are not those types of people to ignore a handshake.  Something must have happened that made them not think about it!!.  It wasn't because they lost.  They have lost under worse circumstances in the past.  I really think they all either forgot or they were thinking of the next game against Clarkson.  It wasn't done intentionally.  I know those guys were well prepared for this tournament, but didn't come through like they expected to.  I'm not making excuses for the team or the coaches.  I do believe they just didn't think about it.  It is however a "black-eye" for the coaches and for UR.

I know there is a mutual respect for one another as far as the teams are concerned.  After the game, I asked the Skidmore shortstop, Anthony Ferri, what he and my son were talking about when my son was on second base.  He said they were teasing one another because they had played against one another for 4 years.  He said he liked the way my son played and hated when he was on base because of his stolen bases reputation.  He said he played "dirty" as all of you players say in slang terms that mean "hard, nasty, good, etc." like when a pitchers has a dirty curveball or dirty cutter.  Mr. Ferri didn't mention anything about not shaking hands, and none of the parents from the two teams did either.

I apologize for making my comment/opinion long.  I know that not shaking hands was not done intentionally, however it seems to be unfortunate that this happened. 

[BoomerIL]

Good Luck to Skidmore in representing the Liberty League in the NCAA regional.  They will surprise many.  They certainly surprised us, Rochester.

[BBFan62]

To add to what Boomer stated, I talked to my son today and he reinforced what Boomer said, that it was not intentional, they just forgot because they knew they had to play another game right away and usually shake hands after a double header. Nobody thought about it, etc. He realizes it was a mistake and told me they were kind of stunned because of how they lost. My son knows and respects the game and his opponents and did feel bad when he realized how it is perceived. Best of luck to Skidmore; let's hope they make it all the way, because after all, they do represent the Liberty League.

[BaseB13]

Disapointing to hear that UR did that.  Doesnt  sound like them...but there is a first for everything!  Clarkson is a class group no s=doubt but Skidmore.......Seen them play and watched there coaches complain about EVERYTHING under the sun!  Discipline is a little suspect!  Hope to see then vs. Cortland.  Looking at the Regional....cakewalk for my Red Dragons???  Dont see much standing in there way.  No offese to Skidmore, but they have no Offense. Fisher may be tough but do they have enough arms??   Keene State i hear is pretty good.

THoughts?

I don't think you've watched Skidmore much at all then.  If by seeing a coach "complain" you mean arguing calls well that's part of the game.  As for the players, if you've watched them play, for an opposing team they rarely even comment about the other team, generally just rooting for themselves.  Regardless I think a Cortland homer is the last person to be commenting on other teams discipline or behavior on the field.

[airball55]

 I don't always side with the Rochester boys but isn't this the pot calling the kettle black in regards to Cortland and class.  That is pretty funny watching a Cortland supporter calling out another program in regards to some of the things the Red Dragons have pulled over the years.  I like Cortland a lot with what they have on the field but let's call it what it is here.

[scscoach]

Boomer and BBfan, thanks for clearing that incident up. What your sons said makes perfect sense and I feel much better now about what happened. Congrats on a great season and winning the regular seson title.
I would like to add that UR did an amazing job of hosting the LL tourney. Everything ran very well and things were well prepared and organized. Even the programs were amazing. Good job Rochester.

[BoomerIL]

Boomer and BBfan, thanks for clearing that incident up. What your sons said makes perfect sense and I feel much better now about what happened. Congrats on a great season and winning the regular seson title.
I would like to add that UR did an amazing job of hosting the LL tourney. Everything ran very well and things were well prepared and organized. Even the programs were amazing. Good job Rochester.

Thanks for the "thanks."  We knew the boys wouldn't do it intentionally.  Sometimes things happen during games that create situations that appear to be mean spirited, but not at UR.  Coach Reina is a very fine person, and wouldn't allowing anything like that to happen on purpose.

[scscoach]

I watched all four regional games today.  Rochester should be here!

[reddragon00]

Scscoach...I watched them all as well!  I have to agree with you.  I was disgusted by the Oneonta-Farmingdale game.  Didn't think much of Castleton as well.  I liked Keene St. and thought that game was good.  I am pretty sure this makes 3 years in a row that the NCAA has left Rochester out for an at-large.  Granted, they don't get it done in the LL tourney but the NCAA should look at the "Body of work" for the year.  Anyway, maybe I will see you there today.  Should be some good ones!!

[BoomerIL]

I watched all four regional games today.  Rochester should be here!

Scscoach...I watched them all as well!  I have to agree with you.  I was disgusted by the Oneonta-Farmingdale game.  Didn't think much of Castleton as well.  I liked Keene St. and thought that game was good.  I am pretty sure this makes 3 years in a row that the NCAA has left Rochester out for an at-large.  Granted, they don't get it done in the LL tourney but the NCAA should look at the "Body of work" for the year.  Anyway, maybe I will see you there today.  Should be some good ones!!

It's o.k. that Rochester didn't get in, because UR's record against Skidmore, St. John Fisher, Brockport and their SOS probably kept them out.  Besides, the experts got to see Filak pitch.

Remember these words......."any team on any given day can beat any other team."

[trider400t]

To add to what Boomer stated, I talked to my son today and he reinforced what Boomer said, that it was not intentional, they just forgot because they knew they had to play another game right away and usually shake hands after a double header. Nobody thought about it, etc. He realizes it was a mistake and told me they were kind of stunned because of how they lost. My son knows and respects the game and his opponents and did feel bad when he realized how it is perceived. Best of luck to Skidmore; let's hope they make it all the way, because after all, they do represent the Liberty League.

Intentional or not, it's up to the coaches to make sure it gets done.  I'm sorry, but it comes off as classless.  Maybe Rochester should go back to the UAA when RIT comes into the league and then it doesn't matter anymore.

[trider400t]

I watched all four regional games today.  Rochester should be here!

Coach, you have said some great things here, but that isn't one of them.  Could Rochester have competed. Yes. Did they earn the right to compete. No. They had a chance, but rolled over against Clarkson.  Actually, I bet RPI would have been more competitive, but the NCAA Tournament is about league winners. If you don't win your league then you don't have a reason to complain.

[scscoach]

I watched all four regional games today.  Rochester should be here!

Coach, you have said some great things here, but that isn't one of them.  Could Rochester have competed. Yes. Did they earn the right to compete. No. They had a chance, but rolled over against Clarkson.  Actually, I bet RPI would have been more competitive, but the NCAA Tournament is about league winners. If you don't win your league then you don't have a reason to complain.

I'm pretty new to D3 baseball, prior to writing that comment I was not aware of just how many teams needed to be considered for the very few at large bids. Rochester really impressed me but you are likely correct about this issue.

[BoomerIL]

To add to what Boomer stated, I talked to my son today and he reinforced what Boomer said, that it was not intentional, they just forgot because they knew they had to play another game right away and usually shake hands after a double header. Nobody thought about it, etc. He realizes it was a mistake and told me they were kind of stunned because of how they lost. My son knows and respects the game and his opponents and did feel bad when he realized how it is perceived. Best of luck to Skidmore; let's hope they make it all the way, because after all, they do represent the Liberty League.

Intentional or not, it's up to the coaches to make sure it gets done.  I'm sorry, but it comes off as classless.  Maybe Rochester should go back to the UAA when RIT comes into the league and then it doesn't matter anymore.

You're a douche bag!!!  Now, bring on the negative karma's, because what I said about you was worth it, classless or not.  P.S., you an idiot also.