BB: LL: Liberty League

Started by John McGraw, March 11, 2007, 11:40:18 PM

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BaseB13

I heard that there were some interesting tactics by RPI.. And it's no surprise, they're always the most classless team in the conference.  Although I have known some players on the team to be high character individuals, it seems as a team they act like a bunch of clowns at times.

Shoeless I'm not so sure I would agree with the RPI statement about the schedule RPI played.  It wouldn't matter if RPI played tougher teams mid week (and I'm not sure there are any better teams to possibly play within reasonable distance anyways) because they'd still be facing a mid week starter.  That's not going to provide any better pitching for the hitters.  Maybe they could have played a few tougher teams in Florida but let's be serious, you can still run in to weak pitching down there as well if you catch a team at the end of their trip.  Given the 24 game conference schedule I think RPI has played a strong mid week/non conference schedule up north.  RPI has Williams this week which other than Cortland, Williams is as good as any team in New York.

Most of the top teams in the LL this year will have inflated stats because they've been able to play Union and Vassar eight times.  20% of your schedule against teams that win 5 games a season will make those team BA's of .375, .357, and .347 look exceptionally high.  Prior to the schedule change this did not occur as much because LL teams were able to play Ithaca, SJFC, Cortland, etc.  more frequently. 

I'd still like to know the potential scenarios for this weekend.. Anyone have any idea?

shoeless

Boomer

Hats off.  The better pitching team won.  YOu guys pitched better and hit better.  Our defense was only slightly better (neither of us have anything to brag about).

I forgot about looking for you.

shoeless

Carroll was injured during play. i don't believe he played second day.

AlleyCat

I wasn't at the games but it looked like they were good games up to the last of 4. I would guess that if RPI had it's other top 4 starter(Carroll), that game would have been a close game also.

What I need to figure out from a couple of the postings is how a coach trying to get a pitcher to slow down is classless? If a guy is pitching well, you try to slow him down if he is working quick. Now it can be done different ways, but it is all gamemenship. When I played Division 1 ball many many years ago it was done all the time before the NCAA put in all the rules to quicken the pace.

Hey U of R won on the field and they deserve the #1 seed and host.  I still think the Liberty League has 2 quality teams that deserve an NCAA bid unless RPI falls apart in the last 2 weeks or someone besides U of R or RPI win the Tourney.

BoomerIL

O.K.

As we all know there are ways of changing a pitchers rhythm, timing.  But come on, your missing my point.  When is the last time you saw a head coach of a college team make it a point of having one of his players call time between each pitch, step one foot out, and get hand singles from the coach in the dugout when there is two out and no one on base.  Between each pitch!!!  What was the point??  Sure to disrupt the pitchers timing.  WOW, rocket science.

You instruct your player ahead of time on what to do.  But no, the coach needs to take "center stage" away from the two teams playing the game.  To me thats disrespecting the game, the umpires, the players, and even himself.  Why be blatant about it.  He didn't do it in the previous game, and he didn't do it in the games that followed.  Whats even more interesting is that several of the RPI parents thought it wasn't to nice either.  To quote one parent "classless." 

RPI is a heck of a good team, Zongol a very good pitcher, and I guess if you don't have a real game plan, you need tricks.
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

BoomerIL

Carroll injured his knee sliding into third.  He was supposed to pitch the first game on Sunday.  Instead, he was on cruches.  Nice kid from what our players said.  Father got a little "salty" when we asked how his son was doing.


One things for sure, RPI isn't going to 'roll-over' and give anyone the Liberty League Championship, but then neither are the other teams.
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

NYBB

Pete Mac..CG 7 hitter.  6 K's, no walks.  No runs.

BaseB13

NYBB if your boy somehow gets to turn pro I hope you have an agreement with him that you get to be his manager or something.. You are a HUGE fan of his.. Which is fine.. It's just a little amusing that's all..

shoeless

Loss to Fisher.

Univ. of Rochester     IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Pete McEneaney......  3.0  5  4  4  1  3 14 16

Lets just report the facts.

And two more errors by their middle infielders.  The wins against RPI were wins, but it over until the championship is over.

shoeless

BEST DEFENSE will win the league championship series.  My money is still on RPI.

No disrespect to anyone.  Just a statement.  WHen aces are on the mound in the series.  You can not give teams 4 outs. 

RPI and Skidmore will be interesting this weekend.

BoomerIL

shoeless......

You know that I have always said that Zongol is underrated.  You know that our defense has not been stellar, nor has yours.  You know "its not over until its over!"

Now, your getting to be boring!  Let it go!  Give it a rest!!

I know you were at the games and probably saw me.  I still wish though that you would have "man-upped" and stopped to at least say hello!
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

shoeless

Boomer

I think rochester is underrated too.  You guys whooped us no question.  but you beat us with pitching for the most part.  You hit the ball well too.  But your pitchers shut us down for the better part of 3 games. 

neither of our defeneses impressed me. 

Zongol is good he is similar to Veenema.

:'(

shoeless

Rochacha vs SJFC

rochachacha  i see your defensive woes continue causing a loss to SJFC.  Cmon they had 7 hits and 9 runs you gotta give your pitchers more support.

I say this as i bite my tongue, i call a spade a spade we had 8 ERrors against williams. We stunk.

OUCH.

DEFENSE WINS.

ocho

Quote from: shoeless on April 30, 2008, 08:45:44 PM
RPI and Skidmore will be interesting this weekend.

How do you figure?

shoeless

i suspect a sweep of Skidmore.