BB: Central Region Rankings

[BigPoppa]

I think the committee must be drawing names from a hat!

St. Norbert from nowhere to 2nd (must have been a helluva week!); Coe and Loras also new.  Webster, BV, and Beloit all drop out.  Wash U still no where to be seen.

I hereby withdraw from attempting to predict ANYTHING!

What is says to me is the committee is setting up multiple bids for the CCIW and IIAC. MWC and SLIAC will get the tourney winner only.

[warrior35]

Illinois Wesleyan pulls out game 1 10-6 over Wheaton.

[TheSportsFan]

what's the thinking behind Coe being #4?   Coe is 21-17........Loras and and Luther both have better records and beat Coe in their series.

[trip21]

I don't care what region you're in, 21-17 should not get you 4th in regional rankings. Especially when there are two teams unranked (Beloit and WashU) at 25-7 and 25-10 respectively, one of which already beat that team twice!

[JohnnyU]

Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind these rankings? I would love to hear how these teams ended up in this order.

[BigPoppa]

Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind these rankings? I would love to hear how these teams ended up in this order.

If I had the answer, I would certainly share it. I am even more confused than most of you as I was sure I had a handle on the region like I did the first two rankings.

I am still trying to find out who is on the Central ranking committee to see if they can help answer some questions for us.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind these rankings? I would love to hear how these teams ended up in this order.

I already provided the only explanation I can find:

I think the committee must be drawing names from a hat!

St. Norbert from nowhere to 2nd (must have been a helluva week!); Coe and Loras also new.  Webster, BV, and Beloit all drop out.  Wash U still no where to be seen.

I hereby withdraw from attempting to predict ANYTHING!

[OshDude]

I think the committee must be drawing names from a hat!

St. Norbert from nowhere to 2nd (must have been a helluva week!); Coe and Loras also new.  Webster, BV, and Beloit all drop out.  Wash U still no where to be seen.

I hereby withdraw from attempting to predict ANYTHING!

Amen. I thought SNC should have been there, but I didn't think the MWC would get a slot over Wash U. And No. 2 over IWU? That's bold. Saw SNC against UWO. Good team in De Pere, no doubt.

[CCIWFAN6]

I am very surprised to not see Wheaton anywhere on here.  I would think that 3 wins against an IWU team that ranks third would give them at least some ammunition to go up against the other teams in this region?  Is the rest of their schedule that weak?

[Mr. Ypsi]

I am very surprised to not see Wheaton anywhere on here.  I would think that 3 wins against an IWU team that ranks third would give them at least some ammunition to go up against the other teams in this region?  Is the rest of their schedule that weak?

I think they just piled up too many losses early in the season.  At this time I strongly suspect they are top 6 in the region, but the NCAA counts early and late games the same.

[BearBaseball]

SNC goes 6-0 against last week with 4 wins against a team who's 12-20 and 2 wins against a team who's 18-15 and their in-region record raises to 21-11. They jumped from unranked to #2 in the rankings.

Illinois Wesleyan is 3-8 since the first regional rankings came out. This includes 2 losses against Benedictine and Blackburn, the 5th place team in the SLIAC, and getting swept by Wheaton. Yet they moved down only 1 spot in those 3 weeks.

Coe played one game last week, against a team that was 21-15, to improve their record to 21-17. They've lost 2 of 3 to Luther, 2 of 3 to Loras, and 2 of 2 to WashU yet they are ahead of all 3 of them in the rankings. Even their 20-12 in-region record is behind all 3 of those teams.

Loras played 4 games last week against two teams that were 10-23 and 8-31 respectively, lost one of those, and jumped over Luther, who has a better overall and in-region record than them, to 5th place.

Luther went 4-0 against similarly weak teams, jumps to 25-11 in-region, and drops down a spot to #6.

Beloit also goes 3-0, jumps to 19-5 in-region, and drops out of the rankings altogether.

WashU goes 4-0 against last week with 2 wins against a team who's 21-16 and 2 wins against a team who's 27-14 (and was ranked 3rd in the region), and their in-region record raises to 24-8.  They were the only team on this list to beat a regionally ranked team in that time. They have the same exact OWP as Luther, a much better winning percentage, and they jumped from unranked to right, nowhere.

If you put these teams in any other order, it would have made more sense.

[BigPoppa]

None of it matters.... only the conference champs in the Central will get bids. WashU will be fine as they should get a Pool C... IIAC/CCIW/MWC and SLIAC will all be one-bid conferences. Someone will be shipped in from another region to fill out the bracket. (Hendrix? Millsaps?).

[Mr. Ypsi]

None of it matters.... only the conference champs in the Central will get bids. WashU will be fine as they should get a Pool C... IIAC/CCIW/MWC and SLIAC will all be one-bid conferences. Someone will be shipped in from another region to fill out the bracket. (Hendrix? Millsaps?).

Slight correction: Wash U looks safe for a pool B (not C).  And Carthage is a lock for a pool C if they need it.  I hold out faint hopes for the winner of Wheaton/IWU IF they take the first game against Carthage (IWU because they were still ranked 3rd; Wheaton because they would have won 4 of 5 against IWU - and assuming IWU does not drop completely out of the final final rankings, that gives Wheaton a huge up on wins against regionally-ranked teams).

[BigPoppa]

None of it matters.... only the conference champs in the Central will get bids. WashU will be fine as they should get a Pool C... IIAC/CCIW/MWC and SLIAC will all be one-bid conferences. Someone will be shipped in from another region to fill out the bracket. (Hendrix? Millsaps?).

Slight correction: Wash U looks safe for a pool B (not C).  And Carthage is a lock for a pool C if they need it.  I hold out faint hopes for the winner of Wheaton/IWU IF they take the first game against Carthage (IWU because they were still ranked 3rd; Wheaton because they would have won 4 of 5 against IWU - and assuming IWU does not drop completely out of the final final rankings, that gives Wheaton a huge up on wins against regionally-ranked teams).

Thanks for the correction. WashU is a Pool B not Pool C.

[d3baseballnut]

I think it is clear, so far in this weekend's tournaments, that the committee was wrong about:

1. Dropping Luther down after going 4-0, sitting at 25-11 in region. They are now sitting first in the tournament, while Coe and Loras have lost

2. St Norbert being above Beloit when SNU was 19-10 in region and Beloit was 19-5(that makes no sense....they are in the same conference, committee). Beloit just beat SNU, and is 1 game from proving to the committee their good record was legit all along

3. ANd in the mideast, dropping ROse Hulman out after going 3-0 last week ( makes no sense) and now at 30-11 after winning 10 straight games

......good call committee.....good call

P.S. IWU are a bunch of clowns. Get them out of the rankings. How do you go 2-3 and just go from #2 to #3....Luther should have done that.....they were stupid for going 4-0 :-)