BB: South Region General Talk -- '07, '08, '09 and '10

[A.G.]

If it comes down to either MU or LC...how much will the committee look at LC winning the H2H season series?

[NCWC]

to back up my point, i ran some numbers...i'll work on ncwc wednesday night for you

cnu - regional record 15-7 (.682) vs. teams with an overall .511 winning percentage - their 15 wins have come against teams who were .469 and their 7 losses have come against teams who were .603

mu - regional record 18-10-1 (.638) vs. teams with an overall .570 winning percentage - their 18 wins have come against teams who were .545 and their 10 losses have come against teams who were .615 - the one tie was against a team that is 22-9-1 (.703)

i'm not sure how the new formula works, but i would think that the difference in winning percentage could certainly be attributed to a difference in strength of schedule - i suspect (although i haven't run the numbers) that the monarchs would have a higher sosi than cnu (although, my understanding is that sosi is no longer and index used by the committee...am i correct?)

Narch, didn't have to work all day so I figured I might help you out.

NCWC- regional record 16-10-1, I didn't count the tie (.615).  Winning % of combined teams (.558).  16 wins against teams with an overall winning % of .573 and 10 losses against teams with an O/A wnng % of .645.  The tie was against a team with a record of 21-12-1.

This is somewhere in the 'hood.  Not right but close the % are +/- bout .005

[alphaomegamission]

Piedmont is having the best season in their history. Twice this year they had a fabulous week and dropped down one spot in the national poll. How can this be? Overall record of 27-8, just recently took 2 of 3 from Emory University (loss was 6-4), and I believe Emory was the runner-up last year? This definitely has to be a team that does not get any respect. Baseball in the south is the best. Hopefully this team will have the opportunity to prove what it can do when the regionals begin. There should be no way this team doesn't make it to the regional playoffs. Go Lions!
Ron

Welcome, Ron!  +1

I have moved this post onto the South Region board so it can draw more comments from the fans in the South Region who are most familiar with Piedmont. 

[NCWC]

Piedmont is having the best season in their history. Twice this year they had a fabulous week and dropped down one spot in the national poll. How can this be? Overall record of 27-8, just recently took 2 of 3 from Emory University (loss was 6-4), and I believe Emory was the runner-up last year? This definitely has to be a team that does not get any respect. Baseball in the south is the best. Hopefully this team will have the opportunity to prove what it can do when the regionals begin. There should be no way this team doesn't make it to the regional playoffs. Go Lions!
Ron

Welcome, Ron!  +1

I have moved this post onto the South Region board so it can draw more comments from the fans in the South Region who are most familiar with Piedmont. 

Narch, has anyone checked out their regional record.  I'm willing to bet it is better than Wesleyans. 8-1 vs ODAC (2 wins against VWC), 3-1 vs USAS ( shen. and NCWC). 11-2 right there plus 2-1 against Emory (13-3).  If sewanee and centre are in the so. region they would be 24 or 25-5 in the region

[A.G.]

In another thread...I think I predicted that Emory and Piedmont should be automatic...along with Salisbury, the ODAC, and USAS winners.  A key for anyone wanting an at-large is no upsets in the tourneys.

[narch]

Piedmont is having the best season in their history. Twice this year they had a fabulous week and dropped down one spot in the national poll. How can this be? Overall record of 27-8, just recently took 2 of 3 from Emory University (loss was 6-4), and I believe Emory was the runner-up last year? This definitely has to be a team that does not get any respect. Baseball in the south is the best. Hopefully this team will have the opportunity to prove what it can do when the regionals begin. There should be no way this team doesn't make it to the regional playoffs. Go Lions!
Ron

i think you'll find that most who post in the south region boards have a great deal of respect for what coach peeples and the pc staff and players have done...of course, it should be noted that they learned everything they know from tom austin

[NCWC]

Piedmont is having the best season in their history. Twice this year they had a fabulous week and dropped down one spot in the national poll. How can this be? Overall record of 27-8, just recently took 2 of 3 from Emory University (loss was 6-4), and I believe Emory was the runner-up last year? This definitely has to be a team that does not get any respect. Baseball in the south is the best. Hopefully this team will have the opportunity to prove what it can do when the regionals begin. There should be no way this team doesn't make it to the regional playoffs. Go Lions!
Ron

i think you'll find that most who post in the south region boards have a great deal of respect for what coach peeples and the pc staff and players have done...of course, it should be noted that they learned everything they know from tom austin

And some large donations.  They have a baseball museum in their gym.  It is like a minny cooperstown.

[narch]

NCWC- regional record 16-10-1, I didn't count the tie (.615).  Winning % of combined teams (.558).  16 wins against teams with an overall winning % of .573 and 10 losses against teams with an O/A wnng % of .645.  The tie was against a team with a record of 21-12-1.

This is somewhere in the 'hood.  Not right but close the % are +/- bout .005

i've actually got this:

ncwc - regional record 19-9-1 (.672) vs. teams with an overall .518 winning percentage - their 19 wins have come against teams who were .461 and their 9 losses have come against teams who were .637 - the tie was against a team that is 22-12-1 (.643)

working on piedmont...it's a little more difficult - does anyone know if marietta and adrian are considered in-region games for pc...how about depauw? (ralph?)

[narch]

If it comes down to either MU or LC...how much will the committee look at LC winning the H2H season series?

in every model that i've ever seen, h2h was a primary consideration

[narch]

for the heck of it:

lc - regional record 20-6 (.769) vs. teams with an overall .486 winning percentage - their 20 wins come against teams who were .461 and their 6 losses come against teams who were .625

[OshDude]

NCWC- regional record 16-10-1, I didn't count the tie (.615).  Winning % of combined teams (.558).  16 wins against teams with an overall winning % of .573 and 10 losses against teams with an O/A wnng % of .645.  The tie was against a team with a record of 21-12-1.

This is somewhere in the 'hood.  Not right but close the % are +/- bout .005

i've actually got this:

ncwc - regional record 19-9-1 (.672) vs. teams with an overall .518 winning percentage - their 19 wins have come against teams who were .461 and their 9 losses have come against teams who were .637 - the tie was against a team that is 22-12-1 (.643)

working on piedmont...it's a little more difficult - does anyone know if marietta and adrian are considered in-region games for pc...how about depauw? (ralph?)

Yes, Marietta and Adrian are in-region games due to Georgia, Ohio and Michigan being in the same administrative region (Region 3).

Anyone questioning what counts as in-region should follow the FAQ link on the main site and click the NCAA Tournament link from there. All that info is on the bottom of that page.

[NCWC]

NCWC- regional record 16-10-1, I didn't count the tie (.615).  Winning % of combined teams (.558).  16 wins against teams with an overall winning % of .573 and 10 losses against teams with an O/A wnng % of .645.  The tie was against a team with a record of 21-12-1.

This is somewhere in the 'hood.  Not right but close the % are +/- bout .005

i've actually got this:

ncwc - regional record 19-9-1 (.672) vs. teams with an overall .518 winning percentage - their 19 wins have come against teams who were .461 and their 9 losses have come against teams who were .637 - the tie was against a team that is 22-12-1 (.643)

working on piedmont...it's a little more difficult - does anyone know if marietta and adrian are considered in-region games for pc...how about depauw? (ralph?)

I'll take that

[narch]

i've calculated pc's regional record at 25-8 (.757)...i'll go to work on opp winning %'s tonight

[A.G.]

I just wanted to add this as a reminder as we get closer to real lively debates:
http://www.d3baseball.com/pressreleases/USAC/2008/01/15/USA-South-to-Co-Host-2008-NCAA-Division-III-Baseball-Regional/2165

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The NCAA Division III Baseball Committee, in conjunction with the annual American Baseball Coaches Association Convention, recently announced the eight regional playoff locations for this upcoming season. The USA South Athletic Conference, along with the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, will co-host the South Regional at American Legion Memorial Post 325 Stadium-Dan Daniel Park in Danville, Virginia from Wednesday, May 14 through Saturday, May 17.

and...

The 2008 Division III baseball championship will feature 54 teams divided into eight regional tournaments. Of the eight regional tournaments, three will feature eight teams while five will consist of six teams. The team which wins the South Regional will advance to the Division III Baseball Championships in Appleton, Wisconsin on Friday, May 23.

Thus, at least according to this, we will be looking at either 6 or 8 teams.  Hopefully, 8 teams from WITHIN the region will be deemed worthy.

[OshDude]

I just wanted to add this as a reminder as we get closer to real lively debates:
http://www.d3baseball.com/pressreleases/USAC/2008/01/15/USA-South-to-Co-Host-2008-NCAA-Division-III-Baseball-Regional/2165

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The NCAA Division III Baseball Committee, in conjunction with the annual American Baseball Coaches Association Convention, recently announced the eight regional playoff locations for this upcoming season. The USA South Athletic Conference, along with the Old Dominion Athletic Conference, will co-host the South Regional at American Legion Memorial Post 325 Stadium-Dan Daniel Park in Danville, Virginia from Wednesday, May 14 through Saturday, May 17.

and...

The 2008 Division III baseball championship will feature 54 teams divided into eight regional tournaments. Of the eight regional tournaments, three will feature eight teams while five will consist of six teams. The team which wins the South Regional will advance to the Division III Baseball Championships in Appleton, Wisconsin on Friday, May 23.

Thus, at least according to this, we will be looking at either 6 or 8 teams.  Hopefully, 8 teams from WITHIN the region will be deemed worthy.

I think the South has a good shot at hosting an eight-teamer. It may come down to either the South or West getting eight, with the other getting six.

In any event, the Central, Mideast and Midwest are almost locks for six-team regionals. So, the South has better than a 50-50 shot at eight teams just based on that.