New kick off rule

[Pat Coleman]

And do we get a commission for the new customer you just got from your commercial post on our site that's in violation of the Terms of Service?

[kickerdad]

Sorry about that Pat, had no idea. I should have responded to his email address on the site.

[Pat Coleman]

No no, not your fault. He's the one who posted the commercial post, not you.

[dewcrew88]

Just clicked on the Web site and saw that it was a dead link. Not surprised.

[union89]

Just watched the beginning of that video......  As an old offensive lineman, if that thing were at practice we would take it from the kicker and  screw around with it pre-practice.  I for one would have broken my leg trying to kick the ball and jump over that thing.  Probably works great.....just dangerous for fat kids.

[Just Bill]

Just clicked on the Web site and saw that it was a dead link. Not surprised.

Wow.  Pat can delete other people's web sites.  Now that's power.

[kickerdad]

I was glad to be an offensive lineman in addition to the kicker. Didn't have to worry about getting picked on. Plus this was back in the day of going both ways so most of the offense played defense as well. (yeah, I am an old fart, so don't even start). Today, everyone is a specialist......even the water cooler person is a specialist.

[PrideSportBBallGuy]

I don't think kickstart will come back to the site.  I like the new kickoff rule.  It will help Greensboro's return game alot they have quite a few burner's on the team.  Namely Torrey Lowe. Move it back to the 20 yard is what I say. 

[union89]

I was glad to be an offensive lineman in addition to the kicker. Didn't have to worry about getting picked on. Plus this was back in the day of going both ways so most of the offense played defense as well. (yeah, I am an old fart, so don't even start). Today, everyone is a specialist......even the water cooler person is a specialist.

kickerdad, back then you kicked off with a funny square toed shoe and didn't need to jump in the air while doing it though....

[kickerdad]

kickerdad, back then you kicked off with a funny square toed shoe and didn't need to jump in the air while doing it though....
[/quote]

You are right. And that is why I make no attempt to try and coach my son. I do get on his case about weight lifting and I can show him some of the old things we use to do (leg presses, Leg lifts, Leg Extensions, Calf raises and so on) to make your legs as hard as the gym floor. But they have got to fancy for me now with this soccer style crap. I admit, he can kick pretty good, but damn there is too much to look at and think about with these soccer style guys to try and figure out what is wrong when they are having issues. Plant foot, follow through, leg spead and leg strenght is all I ever cared about, now you can have six chapters in a book for what you need to work on. If I had to kick soccer style right now, I would crush the plumbing system and end up in the hospital with my hip so far out of joint, they would never get it back right.

[kickstart]

Pat:  Sorry for the violation!  As a kickers dad I am always looking for help and tools which is why this discussion caught my attention.  And yes, if anyone buys one I WILL send you a commission, (no kidding) respond to my e-mail address.  Again, sorry for the violation.

As to the lineman.  Kickers as a whole are pretty well respected and accepted by the team.  Most see themselves as football players first and  kickers second.  Jay Feely (Atl. NYGiants and now Miami) kicker, is considered one of the Hardest workers in the weight room!  ALSO, most kickers are the top scorers on the team. 

[Knightstalker]

Then there are kickers like Matt Bahr when he was with the Giants.  He saved more than one touchdown by knowing how to tackle and taking pride in working on it.  He said playing for Joe Paterno everyone had to learn how to tackle, even kickers and punters.

[union89]

Then there are the Garo Yapremian's and Gramatica brother's of the world.

['gro]

Just watched the beginning of that video......  As an old offensive lineman, if that thing were at practice we would take it from the kicker and  screw around with it pre-practice.  I for one would have broken my leg trying to kick the ball and jump over that thing.  Probably works great.....just dangerous for fat kids.

for as much abuse as kickers took from the other players... everyone was always tying to out punt & kick eachother before practice started.

I always wondered what the life of an NFL kicker would be like... maybe something like this

http://deadspin.com/sports/jeff-reed/

[K-Mack]

This addresses the effect of the rules revisions on Division I-A games in Week 1.

FWIW.