New kick off rule

INQBScout · May 29, 2007, 07:29:26 AM

What will be the impact of the NCAA's decision to move kick offs back to the 30 yard line? Will it mean better field position and more scoring opportunities for the offense?

PA_wesleyfan · May 29, 2007, 04:34:26 PM

I think that it will be bad for DIII. I have been to over one hundred DIII games and I can rememeber very few touchbacks. It will make the onside kick used only on neccessity and not a strategy move. I give the advantage to the return team, It may also change the way teams defer to the second half.

K-Mack · May 30, 2007, 12:41:49 AM

PA,
I agree about Division III, but for a fan, it might be nice to see nearly all kickoffs at our level in play ... as in, we'll see a return and perhaps a big hit or a dazzling juke, instead of a boring kneel-down.

Field-position wary coaches might hate it, but it could be a boon for some of the rest of us.

As you said though, there aren't many D3 guys who can get it out of the end zone anyway, except on a blustery day, so it may have a small impact.

INQBScout · May 30, 2007, 08:50:13 AM

QuoteI give the advantage to the return team, It may also change the way teams defer to the second half.

I was thinking the same thing...wondering how coaches might factor this into game day strategy...I do have to think that offenses in general will be getting some improved field position...

QuoteI agree about Division III, but for a fan, it might be nice to see nearly all kickoffs at our level in play ... as in, we'll see a return and perhaps a big hit or a dazzling juke, instead of a boring kneel-down.

Agree...

PA_wesleyfan · May 30, 2007, 04:29:21 PM

K-Mack

There may be a bodies flying everywhere...

My only other concern that I have seen more and more on the high school level is the pop up kicks to force fair catches. The attitude of give them the ball at the thirty on a pooch kick instead of a running jumps !!!

If a kicker out kicks his coverage to the 5 or even 10 teams will run it back..

I just think it takes a good kickoff guy out of the game!!

INQBScout · May 31, 2007, 08:06:51 AM

QuoteThere may be a bodies flying everywhere...

My only other concern that I have seen more and more on the high school level is the pop up kicks to force fair catches. The attitude of give them the ball at the thirty on a pooch kick instead of a running jumps !!!

Hadn't thought of that...but you may be right. Don't know if there's anything to back it up or just my imagination, but it seems like I've seen the "pop up" kick more frequently over the past two seasons...

kickerdad · May 31, 2007, 02:15:26 PM

These kickers better get off their tails and get those legs stronger this summer. Leg speed, strenght, follow through and timing and height will be the key. Since they lowered the tee size last year, height is a concern. I have preached that to my son since last year. Also these kickers better be in top shape so they can make a tackle. I believe they are going to see more action on that line this year.

INQBScout · May 31, 2007, 03:18:02 PM

QuoteThese kickers better get off their tails and get those legs stronger this summer. Leg speed, strenght, follow through and timing and height will be the key. Since they lowered the tee size last year, height is a concern. I have preached that to my son since last year. Also these kickers better be in top shape so they can make a tackle. I believe they are going to see more action on that line this year.

Atta baby, Kickerdad! I like it...

PA_wesleyfan · May 31, 2007, 04:35:29 PM

Maybe there is a job out there for my son... He was one of the best squib kickers around. Tho I think it's not something that can be taught as much as it is a knack.

Kickerdad

The also better strnegthen their necks because thier heads better be on a swivel looking for hunters!!!

Knightstalker · May 31, 2007, 07:01:43 PM

Just like the NCAA trying to fix something that ain't broke.

Pat Coleman · May 31, 2007, 08:06:24 PM

I'd rather have this to speed up games than the idiotic timing rules they foisted on us last season. This is the 2007 solution to the Division I-A game-length issue.

ADL70 · May 31, 2007, 08:35:49 PM

Why couldn't they keep the kickoff as it was and just shorten the play clock after touchbacks like the new rule for after tv timeouts? Could have the 1st and 10 from the 20 play decided by the time the kick gets to the end zone. Does the shorter play clock hamper the offenses that call the play at the line though?

Knightstalker · May 31, 2007, 09:52:03 PM

You want to shorten the game, lets go back to no substitutions except for injury and run the single wing. Of course Warren and Frank Ubile would have to come out of retirement to coach it.

PA_wesleyfan · May 31, 2007, 10:09:36 PM

Funny how the college kids can kick into the endzone at will and the pros have trouble.... I know the pro's kick a new boxed ball for kick offs ,but I believe the college kids had to kick different balls for kick offs too until last year or the year before??? I guess the famed helium balls that Houston used for Erxlaban had sopmething to do with that???

K-Mack · May 31, 2007, 11:38:39 PM

Quote from: Knightstalker on May 31, 2007, 09:52:03 PM
You want to shorten the game, lets go back to no substitutions except for injury and run the single wing. Of course Warren and Frank Ubile would have to come out of retirement to coach it.

Actually, in Virginia, a high-school team running the single-wing (Osbourn) won the state title in the biggest classification this year. The best part is the coach who installed it took over after the team had lost 32 in a row, and won a state title in four years I think.

Crosstown rival Osbourn Park and some other successful Va. teams (Oakton maybe) have employed elements of the single-wing. Osbourn's was a true single wing when I saw it though, snapping to different guys every play and having a main ballcarrier but no true QB.

Anyway, I know you were kidding, but it actually makes some sense as far as showing defenses something they've never seen. With everyone running some form of the spread these days, you actually have an opportunity to completely baffle a defense by running something proven to work, although years ago

As far as the kickoff, I really don't mind. You would think (hope) D3 kickers could at least get it to the 10 regularly from the new spot.