East Region Fan Poll

[superman57]

listen I have no issue having fisher low on the poll... but who didn't put them on the poll at all

[union89]

listen I have no issue having fisher low on the poll... but who didn't put them on the poll at all

That's me....shouldn't the better question be who has Fisher at #4 and Rowan unranked??

I had Fisher out last week...after a major struggle with Springfield, if anything I view them as weaker...

[union89]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

[superman57]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

[AUKaz00]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

Comparing like opponents, how is Fisher any different than Alfred? (Disclosure: Pep and I don't have Alfred ranked, but we do have Fisher) 

Fisher lost to Wick at home by 3; Alfred lost at Wick by 5.  Fisher beat Springfield at home by 3; Alfred beat Springfield in Springfield by 3.  Fisher beat Norwich in Norwich by 39; Alfred beat Norwich at home by 42. 

After this weekend we'll be able to compare the scores of Utica and Rochester for both teams, but it seems like the 11/15 meeting at Merrill could be very evenly matched.

[union89]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

The MUC argument is rediculous....Fisher lost by 30 and was outgained 2 to 1.  I don't slam them for that loss, but on the other hand I don't give them any credit for getting smoked like any other Eastern team would have.  Losing to Salisbury when Salisbury had a bunch of suspensions does not hold up well either.  As for Springfield, my Union team beat them handily this year....does that mean that Union should be ranked above Fisher also?

Fisher had 2 great years and I think they will return to similar status.  I am not voting for them this year due to their reputation over the last 2.  SJF is simply not that good this year IMO.

[AUPepBand]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

Fisher will always be #1, Supes...in your own mind, much like Alfred will always be #1 in mine.

[SJFF82]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

The MUC argument is rediculous....Fisher lost by 30 and was outgained 2 to 1.  I don't slam them for that loss, but on the other hand I don't give them any credit for getting smoked like any other Eastern team would have.  Losing to Salisbury when Salisbury had a bunch of suspensions does not hold up well either.  As for Springfield, my Union team beat them handily this year....does that mean that Union should be ranked above Fisher also?

Fisher had 2 great years and I think they will return to similar status.  I am not voting for them this year due to their reputation over the last 2.  SJF is simply not that good this year IMO.

silly rabbit...I told you already that you are confused....check SJF's record since 2003, including how many consecutive trips to the play-offs.

Also go back and reread Supes post a few back re: actual game results for this year, and as much as everyone wants to continue to pay lip service to SJF having played MUC, they (especially you) also immediately use their modest 30 pt loss against them...even though you say you are not.

[Jonny Utah]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

The MUC argument is rediculous....Fisher lost by 30 and was outgained 2 to 1.  I don't slam them for that loss, but on the other hand I don't give them any credit for getting smoked like any other Eastern team would have.  Losing to Salisbury when Salisbury had a bunch of suspensions does not hold up well either.  As for Springfield, my Union team beat them handily this year....does that mean that Union should be ranked above Fisher also?

Fisher had 2 great years and I think they will return to similar status.  I am not voting for them this year due to their reputation over the last 2.  SJF is simply not that good this year IMO.

silly rabbit...I told you already that you are confused....check SJF's record since 2003, including how many consecutive trips to the play-offs.

Also go back and reread Supes post a few back re: actual game results for this year, and as much as everyone wants to continue to pay lip service to SJF having played MUC, they (especially you) also immediately use their modest 30 pt loss against them...even though you say you are not.

This is an arguement with no right answer, but what SJF did since 2003 means absoutly nothing in this years poll.

[union89]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

The MUC argument is rediculous....Fisher lost by 30 and was outgained 2 to 1.  I don't slam them for that loss, but on the other hand I don't give them any credit for getting smoked like any other Eastern team would have.  Losing to Salisbury when Salisbury had a bunch of suspensions does not hold up well either.  As for Springfield, my Union team beat them handily this year....does that mean that Union should be ranked above Fisher also?

Fisher had 2 great years and I think they will return to similar status.  I am not voting for them this year due to their reputation over the last 2.  SJF is simply not that good this year IMO.

silly rabbit...I told you already that you are confused....check SJF's record since 2003, including how many consecutive trips to the play-offs.

Also go back and reread Supes post a few back re: actual game results for this year, and as much as everyone wants to continue to pay lip service to SJF having played MUC, they (especially you) also immediately use their modest 30 pt loss against them...even though you say you are not.

Dood, I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you on this....I have never had an exchange with you previously, but your reputation on this site is that of a guy who sees everything SJF's way...good for you, I just don't see it that way.

[SJFF82]

nevermind...I checked for you  49-12 over 5 full seasons...trips to at least second round of national play-offs 3 out of 5 seasons and 1 ECAC bowl win.  Only non play-off win season was loss to RPI in ECAC after AU whacked us in season finale at Growney (for you AU posters  )

I  know nobody likes when I boast about SJF , because I am supposed to be neutral....oops, i did it again as Brittney Spears would say

[union89]

nevermind...I checked for you  49-12 over 5 full seasons...trips to at least second round of national play-offs 3 out of 5 seasons and 1 ECAC bowl win.  Only non play-off win season was loss to RPI in ECAC after AU whacked us in season finale at Growney (for you AU posters  )

I  know nobody likes when I boast about SJF , because I am supposed to be neutral....oops, i did it again as Brittney Spears would say

That has to do with the '08 Fisher team, how??

[Jonny Utah]

_{The 2008 Trophy for going 49-12 in the 5 seasons leading up to 2008}

[SJFF82]

I give Fisher credit for their big win vs. Ithaca.

How do SJF's performances vs. MUC, Salisbury, Hartwick and Springfield warrant my vote??  I don't see it...

lets see they've given MUC their best game to date... they went 4 overtimes with the #15 team in the country, they played within 3 of the defending conference champions and they came from behind a springfield team that at times can be dangerous...

The MUC argument is rediculous....Fisher lost by 30 and was outgained 2 to 1.  I don't slam them for that loss, but on the other hand I don't give them any credit for getting smoked like any other Eastern team would have.  Losing to Salisbury when Salisbury had a bunch of suspensions does not hold up well either.  As for Springfield, my Union team beat them handily this year....does that mean that Union should be ranked above Fisher also?

Fisher had 2 great years and I think they will return to similar status.  I am not voting for them this year due to their reputation over the last 2.  SJF is simply not that good this year IMO.

silly rabbit...I told you already that you are confused....check SJF's record since 2003, including how many consecutive trips to the play-offs.

Also go back and reread Supes post a few back re: actual game results for this year, and as much as everyone wants to continue to pay lip service to SJF having played MUC, they (especially you) also immediately use their modest 30 pt loss against them...even though you say you are not.

Dood, I'm not going to keep going back and forth with you on this....I have never had an exchange with you previously, but your reputation on this site is that of a guy who sees everything SJF's way...good for you, I just don't see it that way.

convenient, but not true...I have on numerous occassions been objectively critical of Fisher and have laid out bluntly when and where they are flawed and what their 'prognosis' is.  If you are going to state things like that to make me the scapegoat for all passionate fans of their teams...then back it up with some of my posts, otherwise dont make such generalizations.  You are confusing my fan support for "always seeing it SJF's way"  BTW, is that wrong, if it is true?

[SJFF82]

nevermind...I checked for you  49-12 over 5 full seasons...trips to at least second round of national play-offs 3 out of 5 seasons and 1 ECAC bowl win.  Only non play-off win season was loss to RPI in ECAC after AU whacked us in season finale at Growney (for you AU posters  )

I  know nobody likes when I boast about SJF , because I am supposed to be neutral....oops, i did it again as Brittney Spears would say

That has to do with the '08 Fisher team, how??

It doesnt, nor did I state or imply that it does.  You continue to incorrectly state that they "had 2 good seaons" but you are not going to give them cred for it this year.  I agree, you should not, however I was simply correcting the statement that they had "2 good seasons"  that's all.

Dont put incorrect words in my mouth, so that you can turn around and correct me.