East Region Fan Poll

[Bombers798891]

Port had a rough start this year but seem to be climbing back to respectability with 3 straight wins.  They'll likely make themselves eligible for the ECAC's this year.

Port vs SJF in the ECAC's anyone???

Two teams separated by 30 miles could equal big time numbers at the gate...

ECAC bowls are like minor league playoffs - nobody knows about them, everyone has previous plans, and the seats are half full.

I agree. I posted this on the E8 board, but I've always hated them. They're often played during Thanksgiving break, so a lot of kids aren't there. Half the time, you've got a disinterested team who's so dissappointed by the regular season, they phone it in.The other half of the time, one team is so angry and being left out of the NCAA's they obliterate their opponent. I've yet to see IC play a moderately entertaining ECAC game. 1998 and 2004 they were angry and destroyed people and in 1999 they had no desire to play and lost. Cortland also famously phoned one in one season after missing out following a 9-1 season.

[SJFF82]

Port had a rough start this year but seem to be climbing back to respectability with 3 straight wins.  They'll likely make themselves eligible for the ECAC's this year.

Port vs SJF in the ECAC's anyone???

Two teams separated by 30 miles could equal big time numbers at the gate...

ECAC bowls are like minor league playoffs - nobody knows about them, everyone has previous plans, and the seats are half full.

I agree. I posted this on the E8 board, but I've always hated them. They're often played during Thanksgiving break, so a lot of kids aren't there. Half the time, you've got a disinterested team who's so dissappointed by the regular season, they phone it in.The other half of the time, one team is so angry and being left out of the NCAA's they obliterate their opponent. I've yet to see IC play a moderately entertaining ECAC game. 1998 and 2004 they were angry and destroyed people and in 1999 they had no desire to play and lost. Cortland also famously phoned one in one season after missing out following a 9-1 season.

You referring to the SJF-CORT ECAC game of 2003?  There is a 3rd scenario...a team on the rise embraces the opportunity for a ECAC game and blasts the stuffin out of a perennial powerhouse.  That was sweet as many Cortland fans were so very rowdy and cocky sitting on Fisher 'side' in the 1st qu....they had a good fan base there as I recall.

[AUKaz00]

ECAC bowls are like minor league playoffs - nobody knows about them, everyone has previous plans, and the seats are half full.

I agree. I posted this on the E8 board, but I've always hated them. They're often played during Thanksgiving break, so a lot of kids aren't there. Half the time, you've got a disinterested team who's so dissappointed by the regular season, they phone it in.The other half of the time, one team is so angry and being left out of the NCAA's they obliterate their opponent. I've yet to see IC play a moderately entertaining ECAC game...

The 2006 ECAC that Alfred won in OT was nothing short of exhilarating.  However, it seemed as though the reason that it had such a great finish (especially if you were a Saxons' fan) was that Alfred came out completely cold to start the game after losing in week 11 in what amounted to an NCAA tournament play-in game against Fisher.  It wasn't until late in the third quarter, down by 15 that the Saxon offense started to click and made it a game (and a thrilling finale).

I think it should be a decision made by the players since they would know whether or not they'd want to play in such a game.  If I were a senior I'd like the chance to play one last game and as a fan I love getting to see my Saxons play one more time (it's a long time between seasons living in Mayberry).

[labart96]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 8 (10/27/08)

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	Cortland State ( 9 )	7-0	99	1	at New Jersey
2	RPI ( 1 )	6-0	89	2	vs. Union
3	Ithaca	6-1	78	3	vs, Springfield
4	Hartwick	5-1	59	4	vs. Norwich
5	Rowan	6-1	49	8	vs. Kean
6	Montclair State	6-1	48	6	at Western Connecticut
7	St. John Fisher	5-3	42	7	at Utica
8	Hobart	5-1	32	9	vs. #9 WPI
9	WPI	6-1	19	T10	at #8 Hobart
10	Lycoming	5-2	12	NR	at FDU-Florham

Others Receiving votes:      

Alfred 8,
Albright 5,
Kean 4,
Delaware Valley 3,
Lebanon Valley 2,
Trinity 1

Dropping out: Delaware Valley #5, Alfred #10


Voting Breakdown:

Cortland State (1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
RPI (2, 4, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2)
Ithaca (3, 3, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4)
Hartwick (4, 6, 4, 3, 5, 5, -, 5, 5, 3)
Rowan (7, 5, 8, 7, -, 4, 6, 4, 4, 5)
Montclair State (6, 2, 5, 5, 10, 7, 4, 10, 6, 7)
St. John Fisher (5, 8, 6, -, 4, 6, 7, 6, 7, 8 )
Hobart (8, 7, 7, 6, 6, -, 5, -, -, 6)
WPI (9, 9, 9, 8, 7, -, 9, -, 9, 9)
Lycoming (-, -, -, 9, -, 8, -, 8, 8, 10)
Alfred (10, 10, 10, -, 8, 9, -, -, -, -)
Albright (-, -, -, -, -, -, -, 7, 10, -)
Kean (-, -, -, -, -, 10, 8, -, -, -)
Delaware Valley (-, -, -, -, -, -, 10, 9, -, -)
Lebanon Valley (-, -, -, -, 9, -, -, -, -, -)
Trinity (-, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -)

as a point of comparison - note the NCAA East Region rankings:

EAST REGION
1. Cortland State 7-0 7-0
2. RPI 5-0 6-0
3. Ithaca 5-1 6-1
4. Montclair State 6-1 6-1
5. Rowan 6-1 6-1
6. Hartwick 5-1 5-1
7. Worcester Polytech 6-1 6-1
8. Hobart 5-1 5-1
9. Plymouth State 5-1 7-1
10. Husson 6-0 6-2

[Bombers798891]

Port had a rough start this year but seem to be climbing back to respectability with 3 straight wins.  They'll likely make themselves eligible for the ECAC's this year.

Port vs SJF in the ECAC's anyone???

Two teams separated by 30 miles could equal big time numbers at the gate...

ECAC bowls are like minor league playoffs - nobody knows about them, everyone has previous plans, and the seats are half full.

I agree. I posted this on the E8 board, but I've always hated them. They're often played during Thanksgiving break, so a lot of kids aren't there. Half the time, you've got a disinterested team who's so dissappointed by the regular season, they phone it in.The other half of the time, one team is so angry and being left out of the NCAA's they obliterate their opponent. I've yet to see IC play a moderately entertaining ECAC game. 1998 and 2004 they were angry and destroyed people and in 1999 they had no desire to play and lost. Cortland also famously phoned one in one season after missing out following a 9-1 season.

You referring to the SJF-CORT ECAC game of 2003?  There is a 3rd scenario...a team on the rise embraces the opportunity for a ECAC game and blasts the stuffin out of a perennial powerhouse.  That was sweet as many Cortland fans were so very rowdy and cocky sitting on Fisher 'side' in the 1st qu....they had a good fan base there as I recall.

I was actually refering to the 2006 game (I think) where Cortland lost to RPI 26-7

[redswarm81]

Port had a rough start this year but seem to be climbing back to respectability with 3 straight wins.  They'll likely make themselves eligible for the ECAC's this year.

Port vs SJF in the ECAC's anyone???

Two teams separated by 30 miles could equal big time numbers at the gate...

ECAC bowls are like minor league playoffs - nobody knows about them, everyone has previous plans, and the seats are half full.

I agree. I posted this on the E8 board, but I've always hated them. They're often played during Thanksgiving break, so a lot of kids aren't there. Half the time, you've got a disinterested team who's so dissappointed by the regular season, they phone it in.The other half of the time, one team is so angry and being left out of the NCAA's they obliterate their opponent. I've yet to see IC play a moderately entertaining ECAC game. 1998 and 2004 they were angry and destroyed people and in 1999 they had no desire to play and lost. Cortland also famously phoned one in one season after missing out following a 9-1 season.

You referring to the SJF-CORT ECAC game of 2003?  There is a 3rd scenario...a team on the rise embraces the opportunity for a ECAC game and blasts the stuffin out of a perennial powerhouse.  That was sweet as many Cortland fans were so very rowdy and cocky sitting on Fisher 'side' in the 1st qu....they had a good fan base there as I recall.

I was actually refering to the 2006 game (I think) where Cortland lost to RPI 26-7

Have we heard from anyone at Cortland on this?  I can't believe that any Red Dragons would admit to being okay with letting the Engineers pound them.

[Bombers798891]

I know they were down to their 18th string QB in that game...but at the same time

1) Seven turnovers (5 Picks, 2 Fumbles)

2) Outgained 398-211.

3) 291 yards allowed on only 14 completions

4) Yes, RPI kicked a bunch of FG's, but...
     A) The first one came from the Cortland 4
     B) The second came from the Cortland 8
     C) The third came from the 10 after being pushed back from the 6
     D) The 4th came from the 12, after a holding penalty pushed them back from  the 2

All of RPI Scoring drives took them inside the Cortland 10. If anything, Cortland was lucky this thing wasn;t worse. This RPI squad was a team that finished FOURTH in their own conference. Cortland was an overtime away from going 10-0 and was ranked 15th in the country and they were at home. RPI wasn't even getting votes. I'm sorry, but I can't believe RPI was better than Cortland that season

[Jonny Utah]

I know they were down to their 18th string QB in that game...but at the same time

1) Seven turnovers (5 Picks, 2 Fumbles)

2) Outgained 398-211.

3) 291 yards allowed on only 14 completions

4) Yes, RPI kicked a bunch of FG's, but...
     A) The first one came from the Cortland 4
     B) The second came from the Cortland 8
     C) The third came from the 10 after being pushed back from the 6
     D) The 4th came from the 12, after a holding penalty pushed them back from  the 2

All of RPI Scoring drives took them inside the Cortland 10. If anything, Cortland was lucky this thing wasn;t worse. This RPI squad was a team that finished FOURTH in their own conference. Cortland was an overtime away from going 10-0 and was ranked 15th in the country and they were at home. RPI wasn't even getting votes. I'm sorry, but I can't believe RPI was better than Cortland that season

I dunno bombers, you must have seen Cortland that year.  I was not impressed one bit.  If it wasn't for a toss pass, they would have lost to Ithaca.

['gro]

I know they were down to their 18th string QB in that game...but at the same time

1) Seven turnovers (5 Picks, 2 Fumbles)

2) Outgained 398-211.

3) 291 yards allowed on only 14 completions

4) Yes, RPI kicked a bunch of FG's, but...
     A) The first one came from the Cortland 4
     B) The second came from the Cortland 8
     C) The third came from the 10 after being pushed back from the 6
     D) The 4th came from the 12, after a holding penalty pushed them back from  the 2

All of RPI Scoring drives took them inside the Cortland 10. If anything, Cortland was lucky this thing wasn;t worse. This RPI squad was a team that finished FOURTH in their own conference. Cortland was an overtime away from going 10-0 and was ranked 15th in the country and they were at home. RPI wasn't even getting votes. I'm sorry, but I can't believe RPI was better than Cortland that season

I hate it when the better team doesn't win.

[lewdogg11]

I know they were down to their 18th string QB in that game...but at the same time

1) Seven turnovers (5 Picks, 2 Fumbles)

2) Outgained 398-211.

3) 291 yards allowed on only 14 completions

4) Yes, RPI kicked a bunch of FG's, but...
     A) The first one came from the Cortland 4
     B) The second came from the Cortland 8
     C) The third came from the 10 after being pushed back from the 6
     D) The 4th came from the 12, after a holding penalty pushed them back from  the 2

All of RPI Scoring drives took them inside the Cortland 10. If anything, Cortland was lucky this thing wasn;t worse. This RPI squad was a team that finished FOURTH in their own conference. Cortland was an overtime away from going 10-0 and was ranked 15th in the country and they were at home. RPI wasn't even getting votes. I'm sorry, but I can't believe RPI was better than Cortland that season

I hate it when the better team doesn't win.

Based on that assessment, i would say the NJAC sucks, RPI should have KILLED Cortland, and basically, Cortland was the most over ranked team of all time.  I don't care if i'm playing Gro's grandma in checkers, i'm gonna beat that woman til her nose bleeds...Maybe the Cortland guys were looking forward to their future gym teacher careers instead.....

[SJFF82]

Congrats U89...your ranking, or lack thereof, of SJF has been vindicated by the braintrust that thinks Husson and Plymouth St. are worthy of East Top 10 rankings

[fisheralum91]

ouch- already ranted on the e8 board---but wow---that still stings

[union89]

Congrats U89...your ranking, or lack thereof, of SJF has been vindicated by the braintrust that thinks Husson and Plymouth St. are worthy of East Top 10 rankings

Thanks SJF82, but I wasn't smart enough to vote for Plymouth St. or Husson.

[fisheralum91]

i dont know what hurts more- ply or huss
sheesh

['gro]

Did any other former players get that feeling when there was 2-3 games left like "man, the season is almost over". Doesn't matter what year you are, you start to get that feeling.  Now practice isn't always fun, especially when it gets cold, but if you can't get up for a game you shouldn't be playing football.  All that "we wanted NCAAs but got ECACs" stuff is garbage.

Picture an ECAC game in progress
You're a offensive lineman, across from you is a defensive lineman... do you not want to block the guy?
You're a linebacker, do you not want to make a tackle?
You're a offensive coach, it's 3rd and 8, do you not want a 1st down?

Please Note: this post reads much better if you have the theme music to Rudy playing in your head, then do the Charles S. Dutton clap at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ7ZpLgkVxA