East Region Fan Poll

[Findtheball]

Congrats U89...your ranking, or lack thereof, of SJF has been vindicated by the braintrust that thinks Husson and Plymouth St. are worthy of East Top 10 rankings

Thanks SJF82, but I wasn't smart enough to vote for Plymouth St. or Husson.

Obviously you didn't vote for Fisher either......LOL

[dlippiel]

Congrats U89...your ranking, or lack thereof, of SJF has been vindicated by the braintrust that thinks Husson and Plymouth St. are worthy of East Top 10 rankings

Thanks SJF82, but I wasn't smart enough to vote for Plymouth St. or Husson.

Obviously you didn't vote for Fisher either......LOL

Why all this hostility towards Plymouth St and the NEFC? Didn't WNEC beat up on Wick last year? We all know how good WNEC is!;D

[Findtheball]

  .......Big Ouch......

[Findtheball]

                        good luck to all hope to see you down the road .

[redswarm81]

So far, the following ranked teams have lost:

No. 9 Washington & Jefferson
No. 14 Trinity (TX) (to No. 5 Millsaps)
No. 15 Wheaton
No. 16 Salisbury (to No. 10 Wesley)
No. 19 UW-Eau Claire (to No. 6 UW-Whitewater)

I see Trinity dropping a bit, if voters notice their dismal OWP/OOWP.
I'm guessing Salisbury drops a bit on account of this being their second loss.
Normally I'd say UW-Eau Claire wouldn't drop out, but this is their third loss.

No. 4 Muhlenberg clinched a Pool A bid with a 6 point win over Dickinson.
No. 7 Cortland St. came from behind to beat New Jersey by 6, welcome to Pool A.

My prediction: Otterbein will be the new No. 14 team in the nation, on the eve of its back-to-back games v. Mound Union and John Carroll.  If they lose both games, they'll probably have trouble competing for a Pool C bid, with two losses and no wins v. ranked opponents.

I think St. John's could win the MIAC.

Hobart inherits all of WPI's votes from last week.

[theoriginalupstate]

SJF almost played their way off of the SJF contingents ballot...

Totally lackluster performance today and with the way AU is playing a 6-4 season and their first season w/o a postseason game in 5 years is a distinct possibility....

[redswarm81]

I've been looking at the East Region rankings.  Here's one scenario:  assume that the top-ranked team from each Pool A conference wins out, and higher ranked teams beat lower ranked teams in showdowns.  Here's how I think it plays out among the East ranked teams:

EAST REGION
1. Cortland State  10-0 10-0  NJAC  Pool A
2. RPI                  9-0  9-0    LL     Pool A
3. Ithaca             7-2 8-2      E8     Pool A
4. Montclair State  9-1 9-1    NJAC  Pool C
5. Rowan             8-2 8-2     NJAC  Pool C
6. Hartwick          8-1 8-1     E8      Pool C
7. Worcester Poly  8-2 8-2     LL     Pool C
8. Hobart            7-2 7-2       LL     Pool C
9. Plymouth State 8-1 10-1   NEFC  Pool A
10. Husson          7-0 7-2              Pool B

MAC Conference Pool A is not ranked.

In this scenario, Rowan probably drops down and WPI and Hobart maybe drop out, but who could take their places?  If we borrow the likeliest candidates from the East Region Fan Poll, we get

St. John Fisher     7-1 7-3       E8      Pool C

and then it gets tricky.  The East Region Fan Poll voters like Lycoming, a MAC Pool A candidate.  But there's still Albright, who has the same conference record as Lyco, but has a head-to-head loss to Lycoming, so Lyco wins Pool A if it wins out, and if Albright wins out, the MAC looks like this:

Lycoming           7-2 8-2      MAC   Pool A
Albright            8-2 8-2       MAC  Pool C

Also lurking would be

Curry               9-1  9-1     NEFC   Pool C

In this exercise, Rowan would be 0-2 v. ranked opponents, Curry 0-1, and Albright and Lyco 0-0 v. ranked opponents.  I figure it'd be a battle of Rowan's OWP/OOWP v. Curry's winning percentage, for the final ranked spot.

In either case, the MAC makes for 5 Pool A spots in the East Region.  Only three remain available to Husson and the Pool C candidates--two, if a top seed is moved into the East, as we know is quite possible.

Thus, Rowan and Montclair St. play next week for the only "safe" Pool C bid in the East.  Hartwick obviously stays way ahead of Fisher if they win out, but they'd have to be considered on the bubble.

RPI v. Hobart next Saturday might for the Liberty League's only NCAA playoff representative.  If RPI wins, I don't see a 7-2 Hobart getting a Pool C bid.  If Hobart wins, RPI will be trapped in the same bubble as Hartwick.

[DanPadavona]

Have we heard from anyone at Cortland on this?  I can't believe that any Red Dragons would admit to being okay with letting the Engineers pound them.

I seriously doubt any team is okay with being pounded.  Some things to keep in mind about this game - Cortland was down to their 4th string quarterback, a freshman, who played very poorly.  Also it was pretty obvious the players didn't play with an intensity level anywhere near the Cortaca Jug win of a week prior and clearly were thinking playoffs, not ECAC's.  But the bottom line was RPI had some match up advantages and took full advantage.  RPI was a very good team, and I think the game would have been a lot more exciting if played a few weeks prior with Miles at QB.

[DanPadavona]

Redswarm -

The East is viewed as the weakest of all the regions, so we will only send a few teams out of B/C to the tournament.  Immediately, I would eliminate the Rowan-Montclair loser.  WPI isn't getting in (or at least, only 1 team between WPI and Hobart gets in), and I would be surprised if Husson was given a birth based on their lack of meaningful games.

I see a Wesley (or someone bigger) being imported into the East Region to fill out the bracket.

[DanPadavona]

Based on that assessment, i would say the NJAC sucks, RPI should have KILLED Cortland, and basically, Cortland was the most over ranked team of all time.  I don't care if i'm playing Gro's grandma in checkers, i'm gonna beat that woman til her nose bleeds...Maybe the Cortland guys were looking forward to their future gym teacher careers instead.....

Don't you have a roller coaster to design or something?

[rams1102]

Based on that assessment, i would say the NJAC sucks, RPI should have KILLED Cortland, and basically, Cortland was the most over ranked team of all time.  I don't care if i'm playing Gro's grandma in checkers, i'm gonna beat that woman til her nose bleeds...Maybe the Cortland guys were looking forward to their future gym teacher careers instead.....

Don't you have a roller coaster to design or something?

Congratulations to Cortland for winning the NJAC Championship !!!  TCNJ did not make it easy for you guys from what I read. Life in the NJAC. Time for a big one at Sam Mills Field on Saturday.

[labart96]

Redswarm -

The East is viewed as the weakest of all the regions, so we will only send a few teams out of B/C to the tournament.  Immediately, I would eliminate the Rowan-Montclair loser.  WPI isn't getting in (or at least, only 1 team between WPI and Hobart gets in), and I would be surprised if Husson was given a birth based on their lack of meaningful games.

I see a Wesley (or someone bigger) being imported into the East Region to fill out the bracket.

I agree.  East will get their 5 Pool A (LL, E8, NEFC, NJAC and MAC) bids and probably 1 Pool C (my best guess would be Montclair if they win out since their only loss would be to Cortland - still a big IF since Rowan is no push over) bid. 

Husson getting a B is a crap shoot.  No idea whether or not they will impress the committee?  If not, then the East possibly gets 1 one C (2nd place E8 team) and then the bracket is likely filled up by an incoming Muhlenberg or other conference champ (Wesley).

Speaking of the Mules, Dickinson almost knocked them off last Saturday (31-25).  If Muhlenberg does end up in the east, the score of yesterday's game should give the rest of the east bracket some hope.

[DanPadavona]

Lewdogg,

I saw your post before it was deleted.  We're just having some fun here.  If "designing roller coasters" upset you, I  truly am sorry.  It was meant as a joke and nothing else.  I doubt 'Gro thought I was serious.  Lighten up, it's Sunday.

By the way I haven't been in the press booth for about 20 years.  I photograph from the field, I'm not an announcer.  And I did play football in school, though I was never big or athletic enough to play thereafter.  I'm not certain why you brought it up though.

[lewdogg11]

Lewdogg,

I saw your post before it was deleted.  We're just having some fun here.  If "designing roller coasters" upset you, I  truly am sorry.  It was meant as a joke and nothing else.  I doubt 'Gro thought I was serious.  Lighten up, it's Sunday.

By the way I haven't been in the press booth for about 20 years.  I photograph from the field, I'm not an announcer.  And I did play football in school, though I was never big or athletic enough to play thereafter.  I'm not certain why you brought it up though.

Yeah, I pulled it down.  Uncalled for.  My apologies.  Back to my train set.

[DanPadavona]

No problem man.  Get your poll in...errr...