East Region Fan Poll

[theoriginalupstate]

upstate i think that horrible is a bit of a stretch

What did they do that wasnt horrible?

they scored 10 offensive points vs Utica...

the defensive TD was questionable at best, I was waiting for the ref to signal incomplete, it did not appear that it was a catch to me or the radio guys...

Offensively they were horrible, there is no denying that. 

Defensively they were good, its a shame that this defense is going to get wasted via graduation.  They've been put in horrible positions all year long due to the offense and they've suffered because of it...

[AUPepBand]

Case Western still floating in the middle of the poll.  Gro thinks there are plenty of teams ranked below them that could beat them (Ithaca, RPI, hell probably Hobart).  If Case gets a pool B bid, import them to the east!

Yes, Pep would like to see Case play in the East Bracket. But heck, the Spartans may just fall at Washington, MO, probably their most formidable foe for '08, that is, if they get by Carnegie Mellon.

[fisheralum91]

upstate -that was where i was going was on the d side of the ball.
their talent kept them in this game and allowed very few chances to uc.

on a side note--- no excuses no bias-- because calls were going both ways that nobody could understand--
the officiating crew was as bad as ive seen in years-- they just looked lost

[dewcrew88]

My poll is in.. that's what PG was waiting on.

[pg04]

I could be home late tonight, so the poll may not be available til the late hours of the night.  Sorry guys!  I don't have the data here at work. 

[labart96]

I could be home late tonight, so the poll may not be available til the late hours of the night.  Sorry guys!  I don't have the data here at work. 

no worries.  as usual, we appreciate your efforts!

k+

[Findtheball]

upstate -that was where i was going was on the d side of the ball.
their talent kept them in this game and allowed very few chances to uc.

on a side note--- no excuses no bias-- because calls were going both ways that nobody could understand--
the officiating crew was as bad as ive seen in years-- they just looked lost

amen

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 9 (11/3/08)

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	Cortland State ( 9 )	8-0	99	1	vs. Brockport state
2	RPI ( 1 )	7-0	88	2	vs. #7 Hobart
3	Ithaca	7-1	80	3	at #10 Alfred
4	Hartwick	6-1	59	4	at Springfield
5	Rowan	7-1	53	5	at #6 Montclair State
6	Montclair State	7-1	50	6	vs. #5 Rowan
7	Hobart	6-1	45	8	at #2 RPI
8	Lycoming	6-2	29	10	at King's
9	Albright	6-2	17	NR	vs. Widener
10	Alfred	6-2	15	NR	vs. #3 Ithaca

Others Receiving votes:      

St. John Fisher 9,
Delaware Valley 2,
Trinity 2,
WPI 1,
Brockport State 1


Dropping out: St. John Fisher #7, WPI #9


Voting Breakdown:

Cortland State (1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
RPI (2, 4, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 2, 2)
Ithaca (3, 2, 3, 4, 3, 3, 3, 2, 3, 4)
Hartwick (4, 5, 4, 3, 5, 6, -, 5, 5, 3)
Rowan (6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 4, 5, 4, 4, 5)
Montclair State (5, 3, 5, 5, 9, 5, 4, -, 6, 7)
Hobart (7, 6, 6, 6, 4, 8, 6, 8, 8, 6)
Lycoming (10, 10, 8, 8, 6, 9, 8, 7, 7, 8 )
Albright (-, 8, -, -, 10, -, 7, 6, 9, 9)
Alfred (9, 9, 9, 9, 7, 10, -, 9, -, -)
St. John Fisher (8, -, -, -, -, 7, -, 10, -, 10)
Delaware Valley (-, -, -, -, -, -, 9, -, -, -)
Trinity (-, -, -, 10, -, -, -, -, 10, -)
WPI (-, -, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Brockport State (-, -, -, -, -, -, 10, -, -, -)

Key Regional Games This Week:
#5 Rowan at #6 Montclair State
#7 Hobart at #2 RPI
#3 Ithaca at #10 Alfred
Brockport State at #1 Cortland State

[superman57]

wow I have a hard time seeing fisher dropping completely out of the poll for winning a game... and lets remember they played bad... but it was against an old coach... and HELLO they won the fing game...

[dewcrew88]

wow I have a hard time seeing fisher dropping completely out of the poll for winning a game... and lets remember they played bad... but it was against an old coach... and HELLO they won the fing game...

Supes... the Pioneers hadn't scored an offensive touchdown against SJF since 2004! You have to do better than 17-10 and only 10 of those points on offense... they are out.

[Bombers798891]

wow I have a hard time seeing fisher dropping completely out of the poll for winning a game... and lets remember they played bad... but it was against an old coach... and HELLO they won the fing game...

Why is that every time Fisher wins a game, all that matters is that they won, and we are supposed to ignore who they played and how they played, but every time they lose, we have to ignore the actual loss and give them a pass because it was against a good team and it was close?

You can't have it both ways. If you want credit for giving Mount Union their closest game of the year, and taking Salisbury to 4 OT's--which a lot of you do--then you have to be held accountable for having a difficult time putting away Utica, Rochester and Springfield, all of whom are horrible

[redswarm81]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 9 (11/3/08)

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	Cortland State ( 9 )	8-0	99	1	vs. Brockport state
2	RPI ( 1 )	7-0	88	2	vs. #7 Hobart
3	Ithaca	7-1	80	3	at #10 Alfred
4	Hartwick	6-1	59	4	at Springfield
5	Rowan	7-1	53	5	at #6 Montclair State
6	Montclair State	7-1	50	6	vs. #5 Rowan
7	Hobart	6-1	45	8	at #2 RPI
8	Lycoming	6-2	29	10	at King's
9	Albright	6-2	17	NR	vs. Widener
10	Alfred	6-2	15	NR	vs. #3 Ithaca

Others Receiving votes:      

St. John Fisher 9,
Delaware Valley 2,
Trinity 2,
WPI 1,
Brockport State 1


Dropping out: St. John Fisher #7, WPI #9

This week's ERFP is pretty close to what I figure the updated NCAA Regional Rankings will be, given where they were last week:
EAST REGION
1. Cortland St   7-0 7-0
2. RPI              5-0 6-0
3. Ithaca          5-1 6-1
4. Montclair St   6-1 6-1
5. Rowan          6-1 6-1
6. Hartwick       5-1 5-1
7. WPI             6-1 6-1
8. Hobart         5-1 5-1
9. Plymouth St  5-1 7-1
10. Husson       6-0 6-2

1 through 7 are pretty much spot on compared to the Regional Rankings.  Kind of curious that Husson gets no love from ERFPoll voters, some of whom are still willing to throw a vote or nine to 2-loss WPI and 3-loss Fisher--but I figure nobody knows much of anything about them.  I'll be really interested to see if one of the MAC teams shows up in the new Regional Rankings on Wednesday.

[Jonny Utah]

A couple people have Hartwick ranked over Ithaca.

I respectfully disagree with these morons.

[theoriginalupstate]

A couple people have Hartwick ranked over Ithaca.

I respectfully disagree with these morons.

I totally agree, its not like IC didnt put up 69 on Hartwick or anything...

Oh wait they did...

Supes, they scored 10 offensive points vs UC.  I dont care if you win or not if you score 10 pts vs UC this late in the season you probably dont deserve to be ranked....

[AUKaz00]

wow I have a hard time seeing fisher dropping completely out of the poll for winning a game... and lets remember they played bad... but it was against an old coach... and HELLO they won the fing game...

You also have to consider that the later the season gets, and thus the more information we have to work off of, the more holistic the picture is for each pollster.  I think what hurt Fisher more in their win on saterday (is it saterday or Saturday on this board?) were the comparative scores that resulted from the IC, AU and SJF games.  Fisher did beat Utica, but only by 7 while Ithaca beat them by 35 the week prior and Alfred beat them by 17 the week before that.  And Ithaca's 29 point margin of victory over Springfield made Alfred and Fisher's 3 point wins seem pedestrian in comparison.  And finally the Saxons 29 point margin of victory over the Yellowjackets makes Fisher's 24-17 week 2 win seem mediocre (even though it is a rivalry game).  So, while the Cardinals did win, the way in which they won (and have been winning) was more damning than the fact that they won.