East Region Fan Poll

[boobyhasgameyo]

Given the title of this thread, Pep was curious as to what D3 Eastern Region football programs had accumulated the most wins since 1999. Thanks to d3football.com, that information was easy to find, particularly for a library assistant!

Top 20 Eastern Regional Teams By Wins Since 1999:
1) Curry (91)
2) Rowan (89)
3) Ithaca (83)
4) Widener (77)
    Hobart (77)
6) RPI (75)
7) Montclair (72)
8  Union (71)
9) Bridgewater State (69)
    Brockport State (69)
11) Cortland State (68)
12) St. John Fisher (67)
      Springfield (67)
14) Trinity (65)
15) Delaware Valley (64)
      Western Connecticut (64)
      Wilkes (64)
18) Alfred (63)   
19) Lycoming (62)
      Massachusetts-Dartmouth (62)

Pep knows that this will certainly be cause for discussion as "strength of schedule" may have something to do with win production. Nevertheless, these are the "facts" pertaining to the matter.

That's not bad for Fisher considering how terrible they were from '99-'01.  If they would have even played slightly below average and finished with 4-6 or 5-5 type seasons they would have ranked right up there in the RPI/Hobart Range. 

[theoriginalupstate]

Given the title of this thread, Pep was curious as to what D3 Eastern Region football programs had accumulated the most wins since 1999. Thanks to d3football.com, that information was easy to find, particularly for a library assistant!

Top 20 Eastern Regional Teams By Wins Since 1999:
1) Curry (91)
2) Rowan (89)
3) Ithaca (83)
4) Widener (77)
    Hobart (77)
6) RPI (75)
7) Montclair (72)
8  Union (71)
9) Bridgewater State (69)
    Brockport State (69)
11) Cortland State (68)
12) St. John Fisher (67)
      Springfield (67)
14) Trinity (65)
15) Delaware Valley (64)
      Western Connecticut (64)
      Wilkes (64)
18) Alfred (63)   
19) Lycoming (62)
      Massachusetts-Dartmouth (62)

Pep knows that this will certainly be cause for discussion as "strength of schedule" may have something to do with win production. Nevertheless, these are the "facts" pertaining to the matter.

That's not bad for Fisher considering how terrible they were from '99-'01.  If they would have even played slightly below average and finished with 4-6 or 5-5 type seasons they would have ranked right up there in the RPI/Hobart Range. 

Try 1-8 (99), 1-9 (00) and 3-7 (01)...

They didn't crack .500 until 2002...

Which makes it more impressive that they are in the top 12 with 3 season like that added in...

[slick]

Trinity with 65 wins only can play a 8 game season due to NESCAC rules. Thats a .8125 winning pct over last 10 yrs. I would like to see the winning pct rankings for the last 5 yrs, and I am not suggesting thst they are in the same category as a Cortland or St John Fisher or NJAC schools. But they have dominated the NESCAC.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Trinity with 65 wins only can play a 8 game season due to NESCAC rules. Thats a .8125 winning pct over last 10 yrs. I would like to see the winning pct rankings for the last 5 yrs, and I am not suggesting thst they are in the same category as a Cortland or St John Fisher or NJAC schools. But they have dominated the NESCAC.

Remind me again why the NESCAC prevents their football teams from playing more than 8 games/year when the Trinity Baseball team went 33-7 this year and participated in the DIII playoffs?  Don't throw the academic card at me because how many classes did the BB team miss playing 40 games this past year...

[theoriginalupstate]

Trinity with 65 wins only can play a 8 game season due to NESCAC rules. Thats a .8125 winning pct over last 10 yrs. I would like to see the winning pct rankings for the last 5 yrs, and I am not suggesting thst they are in the same category as a Cortland or St John Fisher or NJAC schools. But they have dominated the NESCAC.

SJF has a .78 winning percentage over the past 5 years (48-13)...

Of course it's not vs the vaunted NESCAC but they've played some decent unknown teams like Mount Union, Ithaca, RPI, Hobart and Alfred. 

[lewdogg11]

Trinity with 65 wins only can play a 8 game season due to NESCAC rules. Thats a .8125 winning pct over last 10 yrs. I would like to see the winning pct rankings for the last 5 yrs, and I am not suggesting thst they are in the same category as a Cortland or St John Fisher or NJAC schools. But they have dominated the NESCAC.

Remind me again why the NESCAC prevents their football teams from playing more than 8 games/year when the Trinity Baseball team went 33-7 this year and participated in the DIII playoffs?  Don't throw the academic card at me because how many classes did the BB team miss playing 40 games this past year...

It's because November is when the finest wool sweaters are made, and all of the NESCACers have to get together, sip scotch, and rub wool elbows.

[dlippiel]

Trinity with 65 wins only can play a 8 game season due to NESCAC rules. Thats a .8125 winning pct over last 10 yrs. I would like to see the winning pct rankings for the last 5 yrs, and I am not suggesting thst they are in the same category as a Cortland or St John Fisher or NJAC schools. But they have dominated the NESCAC.

SJF has a .78 winning percentage over the past 5 years (48-13)...

Of course it's not vs the vaunted NESCAC but they've played some decent unknown teams like Mount Union, Ithaca, RPI, Hobart and Alfred. 

Until the remarkable NESCAC allows it's teams to play anyone outside of their conference (which obviously they do not), and participate in the playoffs, it is not even worth comparing them to the rest of the east. If they would like, or their fans would like, to be a part of the discussion then they should take the pole out of you know where and play D3 football with the rest of the world. If they or their fans don't care about the rest of the east then that is fine, let them play alone. There is only so much wool to go around. In all honesty I would like to see the NESCAC play with the rest of the field. I have fond memories of going to North Adams as a kid and watching the U play Williams.

[pumkinattack]

I agree.  If the NESCAC wants to play a closed system, that's cool.  However, please don't bother to come around and enter the discussion of comparative strength. 

If you are the best swimmer at Kenyon and dominate a race of 12 year old YMCA-ers, do you compare yourself with Michael Phelps? 

[pg04]

This kinda died off.  Please Private Message me if you want to be involved this season. 

[JT]

I take a look at the NESCAC during the year.  I actually changed my mind about voting for them over the past couple of years.  Keith wrote something in PP that made me think about it.  I kinda look at them as non-BCS DIII.  But I really think they should enter the playoff system.

[Trin9-0]

It's because November is when the finest wool sweaters are made, and all of the NESCACers have to get together, sip scotch, and rub wool elbows.

It is the decision of the NESCAC school presidents to prevent football from competing in non-conference games and/or the NCAA playoffs.  This will not change anytime soon.  They are afraid that any change toward expanding football will appear contradictory to the academic focus of the member institutions.

I personally think it is discriminatory to deny football players the same opportunities that ALL other NESCAC student athletes are provided.

Do not assume that all NESCAC football players/coaches/ fans approve of the leagues exclusionary practices in regards to football.  If I were to estimate the vast majority of NESCAC football players would love the opportunity to prove themselves against the rest of Division III's best, just as their classmates have.

[Jonny Utah]

It's because November is when the finest wool sweaters are made, and all of the NESCACers have to get together, sip scotch, and rub wool elbows.

It is the decision of the NESCAC school presidents to prevent football from competing in non-conference games and/or the NCAA playoffs.  This will not change anytime soon.  They are afraid that any change toward expanding football will appear contradictory to the academic focus of the member institutions.

I personally think it is discriminatory to deny football players the same opportunities that ALL other NESCAC student athletes are provided.

Do not assume that all NESCAC football players/coaches/ fans approve of the leagues exclusionary practices in regards to football.  If I were to estimate the vast majority of NESCAC football players would love the opportunity to prove themselves against the rest of Division III's best, just as their classmates have.

Trin8-0, Its my understanding that although the 'contradiction to acadamic focus' may be an issue to some presidents, the tradition of nescac football is the main reason why they don't go to the playoffs. 

[SJFF82]

Trinity with 65 wins only can play a 8 game season due to NESCAC rules. Thats a .8125 winning pct over last 10 yrs. I would like to see the winning pct rankings for the last 5 yrs, and I am not suggesting thst they are in the same category as a Cortland or St John Fisher or NJAC schools. But they have dominated the NESCAC.

Remind me again why the NESCAC prevents their football teams from playing more than 8 games/year when the Trinity Baseball team went 33-7 this year and participated in the DIII playoffs?  Don't throw the academic card at me because how many classes did the BB team miss playing 40 games this past year...

It's because November is when the finest wool sweaters are made, and all of the NESCACers have to get together, sip scotch, and rub wool elbows.

this coming from an LLer? 

[pumkinattack]

Trinity with 65 wins only can play a 8 game season due to NESCAC rules. Thats a .8125 winning pct over last 10 yrs. I would like to see the winning pct rankings for the last 5 yrs, and I am not suggesting thst they are in the same category as a Cortland or St John Fisher or NJAC schools. But they have dominated the NESCAC.

Remind me again why the NESCAC prevents their football teams from playing more than 8 games/year when the Trinity Baseball team went 33-7 this year and participated in the DIII playoffs?  Don't throw the academic card at me because how many classes did the BB team miss playing 40 games this past year...

It's because November is when the finest wool sweaters are made, and all of the NESCACers have to get together, sip scotch, and rub wool elbows.

this coming from an LLer? 

...as opposed to an E8 grease monkey? 

Seriously though,  I have all the respect in the world for the NESCAC institutions, but going to trinity (or Conn College/Hamilton) isn't necessarily a step up from a number of schools who do participate in the NCAA's so it seems as though people who go to a NESCAC school pretty much forfeit the ability to compare their schools football prowess to the rest of DIII.  It's really a choice of competing at the highest DIII level, or in a closed system comprised of a handful of excellent academic institutions.  I personally applied to transfer and was accepted to both Wesleyan and Tufts (from Hobart), but ultimately decided not to make the move, for social reasons mostly, and realize that I sacrificed some degree prestige along the way, but recognize that you can't have it all.  There's always opportunity cost.   

[pg04]

This kinda died off.  Please Private Message me if you want to be involved this season. 

Only have 2 so far (plus myself to make 3).  Would like to get to 10 like in the past.