East Region Fan Poll

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If it makes anyone feel better, I had Curry at 5.

Pep feels much better now...Pep had the spicy boys at #8. Thanks, LD.

Pre-Season polls must take last year's end into account.  The LL folded and Curry flourished so I had to not only have them in the poll but rank them relatively highly.  It was only fair and they deserve it.  1 loss and they are banished forever.

Yeah, I think Curry should get some level of respect for beating Ithaca.  We'll see if they can trample through the NEFC again this year. 

[Jonny Utah]

If it makes anyone feel better, I had Curry at 5.

Pep feels much better now...Pep had the spicy boys at #8. Thanks, LD.

Pre-Season polls must take last year's end into account.  The LL folded and Curry flourished so I had to not only have them in the poll but rank them relatively highly.  It was only fair and they deserve it.  1 loss and they are banished forever.

Yeah, I think Curry should get some level of respect for beating Ithaca.  We'll see if they can trample through the NEFC again this year.  

I think Curry would get a lot more respect if the following had happend/will happen.

-They didn't get smoked by Cortland
-Plymouth didn't get smoked by Cortland
-They lose their 2 best skill positions from last year. (QB and WR)
-Ithaca had its starting QB and RB in the game they beat Ithaca


But.....(from looking at the roster)

-They have most of their defense back (8/11)
-Most of their oline back (4/5)
-RB and FB comming back

The key to Curry's whole season may be the new QB.  I liked the kid from N. Attleboro that they had there.  Im not too impressed with the running backs, but they are big.  

[Jonny Utah]

One more thing on Curry and NEFC teams in general..

I think when a decent team like Curry makes the playoffs, there is this huge emotional swing and feeling of disrespect that fuels the team in that first game.  Im sure the coaches use this as a tool to fire that team up.  

I saw it in an ECAC game I played with against Worcester State in 1996.  I don't want to go into the whole ECAC thing again, but basically we were spent as a team.  We just missed the playoffs in the last game (lost to Buff State) and now had to play a game that didnt matter to us (again, I dont want to into the excuse thing again).  Most of us on that team were a part of the 1994 run that was one catch away from the Stagg Bowl.  Anyway, Worcester State was more fired up than any team I had ever seen.  We could hear them at halftime and it sounded like a gangbusters strike busting rally in the next room.  

Anyway, I have this feeling that after that first game Curry has won in the playoffs the last 2 years (wins versus Hartwick and Ithaca in 2007 and 2008) were followed up by bad losses in the next game (SJF and Cortland, 37-6 and 42-0) in that next round.  I believe that emotion was spent going into that 2nd round.

No excuses but I have a feeling Ithaca was looking past Curry and Cortland last year to that Mt. Union game again.

[lewdogg11]

One more thing on Curry and NEFC teams in general..

I think when a decent team like Curry makes the playoffs, there is this huge emotional swing and feeling of disrespect that fuels the team in that first game.  Im sure the coaches use this as a tool to fire that team up.  

I saw it in an ECAC game I played with against Worcester State in 1996.  I don't want to go into the whole ECAC thing again, but basically we were spent as a team.  We just missed the playoffs in the last game (lost to Buff State) and now had to play a game that didnt matter to us (again, I dont want to into the excuse thing again).  Most of us on that team were a part of the 1994 run that was one catch away from the Stagg Bowl.  Anyway, Worcester State was more fired up than any team I had ever seen.  We could hear them at halftime and it sounded like a gangbusters strike busting rally in the next room.  

Anyway, I have this feeling that after that first game Curry has won in the playoffs the last 2 years (wins versus Hartwick and Ithaca in 2007 and 2008) were followed up by bad losses in the next game (SJF and Cortland, 37-6 and 42-0) in that next round.  I believe that emotion was spent going into that 2nd round.

No excuses but I have a feeling Ithaca was looking past Curry and Cortland last year to that Mt. Union game again.

EXCUSES EXCUSES

[Jonny Utah]

One more thing on Curry and NEFC teams in general..

I think when a decent team like Curry makes the playoffs, there is this huge emotional swing and feeling of disrespect that fuels the team in that first game.  Im sure the coaches use this as a tool to fire that team up.  

I saw it in an ECAC game I played with against Worcester State in 1996.  I don't want to go into the whole ECAC thing again, but basically we were spent as a team.  We just missed the playoffs in the last game (lost to Buff State) and now had to play a game that didnt matter to us (again, I dont want to into the excuse thing again).  Most of us on that team were a part of the 1994 run that was one catch away from the Stagg Bowl.  Anyway, Worcester State was more fired up than any team I had ever seen.  We could hear them at halftime and it sounded like a gangbusters strike busting rally in the next room.  

Anyway, I have this feeling that after that first game Curry has won in the playoffs the last 2 years (wins versus Hartwick and Ithaca in 2007 and 2008) were followed up by bad losses in the next game (SJF and Cortland, 37-6 and 42-0) in that next round.  I believe that emotion was spent going into that 2nd round.

No excuses but I have a feeling Ithaca was looking past Curry and Cortland last year to that Mt. Union game again.

EXCUSES EXCUSES

You don't think emotion is involved in football?

Or ask yourself this LD.  If Ithaca was playing at Curry in the first game this year, would you bet $100 that Curry would win because they beat IC last year?  No, if there was a point spread, you can bet IC would be favored by 14 points.

[Knightstalker]

With my poll part of the problem for Curry was the same problem for the LL teams, no preseason poll or info from the conferences.  I was going off what has been discussed in the east boards and  what previews were out there.  Basically I looked at Curry losing to Plymouth St, beating Ithaca and getting creamed by Cortland and they were hovering at 10.  I also looked at other teams and basically I thought most would beat Curry head to head.  Let the games begin.

[pumkinattack]

If the LL has two going in, I'm guessing it's primarily Hobart and RPI, but I think Union (or the LL #3) will be as strong as the #3 from either the E8 (SJF or AU) or NJAC this year (Montclair or Rowan).  I can undrestand the problem with the lack of info, but Union has a lot of talent returning (their D was shaky last year and they lose their best OL, but there's a lot returning on O).  Their biggest problem is going to be schedule with Ithaca, Muhlenburg (road) and Salisbury (road).  Given that, plus Bart and RPI (and anyone else who might be a challenge in the LL), it's hard to see Union having less than one or two losses this year.

[lewdogg11]

If the LL has two going in, I'm guessing it's primarily Hobart and RPI, but I think Union (or the LL #3) will be as strong as the #3 from either the E8 (SJF or AU) or NJAC this year (Montclair or Rowan).  I can undrestand the problem with the lack of info, but Union has a lot of talent returning (their D was shaky last year and they lose their best OL, but there's a lot returning on O).  Their biggest problem is going to be schedule with Ithaca, Muhlenburg (road) and Salisbury (road).  Given that, plus Bart and RPI (and anyone else who might be a challenge in the LL), it's hard to see Union having less than one or two losses this year.

Based on the last few years, I have Hobart and RPI in, no Union.  Obviously, as we've mentioned, pre-season polls take last year into account more than speculation for this year.  I don't know if Union will be strong, but I have a feeling they might have a tough year.

[pumkinattack]

And that's certainly reasonable.  I'm just looking at a relative value of Union (or any #3 in the LL this year) vs. E8 and NJAC and suggesting that there probably isn't a discernable difference (unlike, the last two years).

[lewdogg11]

My breakdown is:

LL - 2
E8 - 3
NJAC - 3
MAC - 1
NEFC - 1

My E8 surprise is Springfield.  Springfield seems to field a monster team every 3 years or so, so i'm thinking they might improve.  My 5 on the outside looking in were Union, Albright, Hartwick, Plymouth, and Alfred.  All of them could get in after week 1 or 2.

[dlippiel]

If the LL has two going in, I'm guessing it's primarily Hobart and RPI, but I think Union (or the LL #3) will be as strong as the #3 from either the E8 (SJF or AU) or NJAC this year (Montclair or Rowan).  I can undrestand the problem with the lack of info, but Union has a lot of talent returning (their D was shaky last year and they lose their best OL, but there's a lot returning on O).  Their biggest problem is going to be schedule with Ithaca, Muhlenburg (road) and Salisbury (road).  Given that, plus Bart and RPI (and anyone else who might be a challenge in the LL), it's hard to see Union having less than one or two losses this year.

Based on the last few years, I have Hobart and RPI in, no Union.  Obviously, as we've mentioned, pre-season polls take last year into account more than speculation for this year.  I don't know if Union will be strong, but I have a feeling they might have a tough year.

dlippiel just thinks with U's talent on O and a schedule that will make them very battle tested the U will win the LL this season.

[dlippiel]

Of course as usual dlippiel could be way off

[dlippiel]

One more thing on Curry and NEFC teams in general..

I think when a decent team like Curry makes the playoffs, there is this huge emotional swing and feeling of disrespect that fuels the team in that first game.  Im sure the coaches use this as a tool to fire that team up.  

I saw it in an ECAC game I played with against Worcester State in 1996.  I don't want to go into the whole ECAC thing again, but basically we were spent as a team.  We just missed the playoffs in the last game (lost to Buff State) and now had to play a game that didnt matter to us (again, I dont want to into the excuse thing again).  Most of us on that team were a part of the 1994 run that was one catch away from the Stagg Bowl.  Anyway, Worcester State was more fired up than any team I had ever seen.  We could hear them at halftime and it sounded like a gangbusters strike busting rally in the next room.  

Anyway, I have this feeling that after that first game Curry has won in the playoffs the last 2 years (wins versus Hartwick and Ithaca in 2007 and 2008) were followed up by bad losses in the next game (SJF and Cortland, 37-6 and 42-0) in that next round.  I believe that emotion was spent going into that 2nd round.

No excuses but I have a feeling Ithaca was looking past Curry and Cortland last year to that Mt. Union game again.

very good point here utah!

[Boxer7806]

my poll was consistent almost all of the others... I had Curry in the top ten but even as the NEFC poster i had them at #9... Curry's side of the division is weaker this year then the Bogan and should help them in the long run in term of this poll...

I like the Springfield pick as a sleeper but i have a feeling Union could really move up in the poll at years end... i also have good feelings about Alfred this year, I like what they have coming back...

should be an interesting year

[labart96]

Off the top of TGP's head TGP had:

3 NJAC
2 MAC
2 LL
2 E8
1 DSB*

* Curry in the top 10 and may have even given Union a #9 or 10 (can't remember). 

Per PA, Connolly is an entire season wiser and the U's RB is the best in the LL.  Guess we'll see whether the U is improved in week 1 when they face IC.

Although it sounds like most think RPI is "better" going into the season, TGP dinged the Enginegros a) their weak OOC sked vs. U's, b) last year's MMA game and most importantly c) the grad of Robinson, Svensli (sp? their ALL WR), etc (TGP realizes that RPI's D will be back in force, but w/o any color on how good their QB's are coming in TGP went with Connolly and U as the "#2 pre-season LL team").