East Region Fan Poll

Started by pg04, July 05, 2007, 09:44:54 PM

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pumkinattack

Maybe it's changed as I haven't played this decade.  I personally thought Union was our main rival (that's also 100 years + old), but I know they have their RPI issues.  I was involved in a scrape on the field up in Schenectady. 

Was Sosa referring to the rivalry or the fact that SJF has become a strong program this decade?  I haven't seen the quote before.

Still doesn't explain the IC/Cortland blowout example though. 

Bombers798891

Quote from: pumkinattack on September 22, 2009, 09:59:39 PM
Maybe it's changed as I haven't played this decade.  I personally thought Union was our main rival (that's also 100 years + old), but I know they have their RPI issues.  I was involved in a scrape on the field up in Schenectady. 

Was Sosa referring to the rivalry or the fact that SJF has become a strong program this decade?  I haven't seen the quote before.

Still doesn't explain the IC/Cortland blowout example though. 

Nine of the last 12 Cortaca Jugs have been decided by one score or less. Ithaca's won three via the blowout. Cortland rarely does it to Ithaca however. In fact, in the entire Cortaca history, 13 of Cortland's 17 wins have been by one score or less. But Ithaca did have a stretch of 14 wins in 15 years where all were by at least 14.

Cortland used to be atrocious though, and IC would regularly embarrass them. In one stretch from 1984-87 the Bombers won by an average score of 40-8. But right now, the talent gap is minimal, which is why you're seeing close games

AUPepBand

Speaking of rivalries, Alfred has none. Nada. Zilch. Aught. It's a wonder AU can muster a schedule of nine or ten games.



On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

maxpower

What about Alfred State? Do they have football? If so, how? If not, why not?

pg04

Quote from: maxpower on September 22, 2009, 11:28:42 PM
What about Alfred State? Do they have football? If so, how? If not, why not?

I think they have a JV team...

AUPepBand

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Quote from: maxpower on September 22, 2009, 11:28:42 PM
What about Alfred State? Do they have football? If so, how? If not, why not?

They have a football program competing at the NJCAA level. Alfred State should be where Morrisville State is currently; however, ASC has a vocational/trades campus in Wellsville with about 700 students who have no baccalaureate program in which to continue their studies. All other two-year degree programs at ASC fall under a baccalaureate program currently offered there. But the Wellsville campus has nothing....thus, the delay in moving to D3 status.

Alfred State competes against Hudson Valley CC, Erie CC, etc. and the rest of its schedule is comprised of D3 JV programs. Pep saw part of the Pioneers' 41-21(?) win over the Buffalo State JVs Monday night.

Alfred State and Alfred University will probably never compete against each other on the football field. Were ill feelings to develop, the campuses are not 30 miles apart, separated only by the single traffic light....and a few cops.

*AU JV team scrimmaged Alfred State on August 29.*
On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

phil

Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

AUPepBand

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Quote from: phil on September 22, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

Pep would have to agree....not sure where the Alfred #1 votes are coming from.  ;)   ...but Pep knows who voted for TCNJ!

On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

pg04

Quote from: phil on September 22, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

You make a very valid argument.  They are my number 11 team right now.  Alfred is 4... but that's mainly because they started near the top to begin with.  Unfortunately that's probably true in most cases.  If Alfred is unfairly ranked, I think we'll see this week vs. Springfield.  

pg04

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Quote from: AUPepBand on September 22, 2009, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: phil on September 22, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

Pep would have to agree....not sure where the Alfred #1 votes are coming from.  ;)   ...but Pep knows who voted for TCNJ!



Oh goodness don't seed the doubt for being biased  :P

Correction:  I just saw the addition to your post. 

AUPepBand

Quote from: pg04 on September 22, 2009, 11:46:57 PM
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 22, 2009, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: phil on September 22, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

Pep would have to agree....not sure where the Alfred #1 votes are coming from.  ;)   ...but Pep knows who voted for TCNJ!



Oh goodness don't seed the doubt for being biased  :P

Pep, as always, was only playing... the whole thing is a mess but it will certainly clear itself up by season's end.
On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

AUPepBand

Quote from: phil on September 22, 2009, 11:41:37 PM
Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

Seriously, Pep told Kaz00 after what TCNJ did to both Buffalo State and FDU-Florham, that the Alfred contingent could not leave TCNJ off the ballot.
On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

maxpower

I think you can pretty easily chalk it up to the new york bias, which is no one's fault really....

pg04

I don't think we'll know much more about TCNJ after this week either, as they play Morrisville.  We'll know a little more after they play at Kean, but really they play Rowan and Cortland 2 of the last 3 weeks. 

AUPepBand

Quote from: pg04 on September 22, 2009, 11:45:39 PM
You make a very valid argument.  They are my number 11 team right now.  Alfred is 4... but that's mainly because they started near the top to begin with.  Unfortunately that's probably true in most cases.  If Alfred is unfairly ranked, I think we'll see this week vs. Springfield.  

Alfred's first real test...same for Springfield. The Pride is the highest scoring team in the nation (56.0 avg.) and leads the nation in rushing yardage per game (447.50), plus another 112 ypg thru the air! Fourth in the nation for total offense (560.0 ypg). Oh, BTW, The Pride also leads the nation in rushing defense, yielding only 10 yards per game? 73 carries for 20 net yards....

Does anyone think that odd? Springfield is #1 in the nation in rushing offense AND #1 in the nation in rushing defense?

On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!