East Region Fan Poll

[SJFF82]

I love the poll results....a direct reflection of being a quality opponent that everyone in the East is gunning for.  Sure dont see any sh#$$^ teams leading the poll results.

My vote is for SJF.

BTW...who started the poll...probably a good indicator of what school should get a vote.

[SJFF82]

#3 RPI, loses at home to U of R 16-10. 

Well hopefully now the RPI fans won't be so vocal about the "lack of respect" their team is getting this year. 

Its funny how UR plays SJF tough every year....many posters point to the score as a potential sign of SJF weakness....then UR usually plays pretty decent in the LL....then they knock of RPI....then SJF gets ridiculed for RPI's loss to UR....Now that is some twisted logic LLPP style.

  Who is knocking "SJF" for RPI's loss to UofR?  

Gro was....you rebuked him also. 

[fisheralum91]

nobody is more important than me

[SJFF82]

nobody is more important than me

how's Saterday looking for a trip to IC?

[HSCTiger74]

Hopkins should be tough, I'm not convinced they will have problems with Muhlenburg.  Grove City's put up a lot of pts this year (40 against CMU also) and based on the little I know F&M had brought back a lot of talent on O.  I'm not saying they are a top 10 team or anything, but there's precedent with Muhlenburg being sent East in the past and you could have three undefeated teams in the south (MHB, Wesley and, potentially a CC school).   If that's the case and you've got someone as close as MUC to move from that region and no one else in the North makes a more compelling case for a 1 seed, it might actually make sense to move one of the south undefeateds to reward going undefeated. 

As long as you're speaking of potential, don't forget Hampden-Sydney, although even I'll admit that history is not on their side.

[pumkinattack]

Its funny how UR plays SJF tough every year....many posters point to the score as a potential sign of SJF weakness....then UR usually plays pretty decent in the LL....then they knock of RPI....then SJF gets ridiculed for RPI's loss to UR....Now that is some twisted logic LLPP style.

  Who is knocking "SJF" for RPI's loss to UofR?  

Gro was....you rebuked him also. 

And what is the relationship between Gro's comment and RPI's loss to U of R?  Specifcally, what background information leads you to believe his comment is specific to RPI's loss and not any other exogenous events (specifically on this board, to which Booby clarified later and covered that). 

['gro]

Its funny how UR plays SJF tough every year....many posters point to the score as a potential sign of SJF weakness....then UR usually plays pretty decent in the LL....then they knock of RPI....then SJF gets ridiculed for RPI's loss to UR....Now that is some twisted logic LLPP style.

  Who is knocking "SJF" for RPI's loss to UofR?   

Gro was....you rebuked him also. 

And what is the relationship between Gro's comment and RPI's loss to U of R?  Specifcally, what background information leads you to believe his comment is specific to RPI's loss and not any other exogenous events (specifically on this board, to which Booby clarified later and covered that). 

to clear the air, cuz it sure does stank in here... Gro was humorously pointing out that for every RPI fan that b!tches about a 3-0 engineer team not getting votes in the top 25 poll there is an equal amount of Fisher fans trying to convince E8 Nation that they have "arrived" on the national scene.

Both arguments are flawed.

[fisheralum91]

82- no chance
friggin wedding.
not even a relative---an outlaw
what a insane waste of time.
enjoy- i should be back for the AU game.

[SJFF82]

Its funny how UR plays SJF tough every year....many posters point to the score as a potential sign of SJF weakness....then UR usually plays pretty decent in the LL....then they knock of RPI....then SJF gets ridiculed for RPI's loss to UR....Now that is some twisted logic LLPP style.

  Who is knocking "SJF" for RPI's loss to UofR?  

Gro was....you rebuked him also. 

And what is the relationship between Gro's comment and RPI's loss to U of R?  Specifcally, what background information leads you to believe his comment is specific to RPI's loss and not any other exogenous events (specifically on this board, to which Booby clarified later and covered that). 

Oh boy...I had typed that "you took my post too seriously" in my original reply....but removed it...suffice it to say, I shoulda left it in.

What da hell does your post say?  Cmon....I was just bustin balls about Gro's comment....and you go freakin analytical on me.  Here is some k....lighten up.

[dlippiel]

Yea I was kind of just sorting out the teams on paper as I thought out the top 10 teams in the east.

But there were a few things I thought out in my head:

-Union has to be ranked over Ithaca
-Rochester cannot be ranked with 3 losses
-SJF will be ranked over RPI with common opponent Rochester
-I have Alfred in that top tier now, only because they smoked Springfield who smoked Utica.  Utica gave IC and RPI a good game.
-Hartwick may need to be in the playoff discussion
-NJAC teams have not really done anything except beat the crappy teams in the conference, and lost to the top teams once.

Why? They may have given ithaca a game, but everything else you say indicates Ithaca ain't that good....

Well first, Ithaca isn't that good but they are not that bad either. When looking at Wick's schedule you have ABSOLUTELY nothing to gage them by because they play the likes of Pop Warner and Flag Football teams each year before going into E8 play. Hence the only gage any of us have for them is that they played a close, tough game with Ithaca, who, many of us know isn't all that good, but still is literally an E8 contender who D3.com has as # ****in 20 in their national poll. So If you mention Wick in any type of respect or light one must talk about the Ithaca game.

[SJFF82]

Yea I was kind of just sorting out the teams on paper as I thought out the top 10 teams in the east.

But there were a few things I thought out in my head:

-Union has to be ranked over Ithaca
-Rochester cannot be ranked with 3 losses
-SJF will be ranked over RPI with common opponent Rochester
-I have Alfred in that top tier now, only because they smoked Springfield who smoked Utica.  Utica gave IC and RPI a good game.
-Hartwick may need to be in the playoff discussion
-NJAC teams have not really done anything except beat the crappy teams in the conference, and lost to the top teams once.

Why? They may have given ithaca a game, but everything else you say indicates Ithaca ain't that good....

Well first, Ithaca isn't that good but they are not that bad either. 

Oh...thanks!  Was wondering how Fisher might fare against them this Saterday.

[theoriginalupstate]

Obviously the clear choice is Alfred...

I've never seen a poster so narcissistic, self centered and easily rattled as Pep...

obviously this is a joke, just like this current poll is

[pg04]

Obviously the clear choice is Alfred...

I've never seen a poster so narcissistic, self centered and easily rattled as Pep...

obviously this is a joke, just like this current poll is

What a non-scientific poll. 

[Jonny Utah]

Yea I was kind of just sorting out the teams on paper as I thought out the top 10 teams in the east.

But there were a few things I thought out in my head:

-Union has to be ranked over Ithaca
-Rochester cannot be ranked with 3 losses
-SJF will be ranked over RPI with common opponent Rochester
-I have Alfred in that top tier now, only because they smoked Springfield who smoked Utica.  Utica gave IC and RPI a good game.
-Hartwick may need to be in the playoff discussion
-NJAC teams have not really done anything except beat the crappy teams in the conference, and lost to the top teams once.

Why? They may have given ithaca a game, but everything else you say indicates Ithaca ain't that good....

Well first, Ithaca isn't that good but they are not that bad either. When looking at Wick's schedule you have ABSOLUTELY nothing to gage them by because they play the likes of Pop Warner and Flag Football teams each year before going into E8 play. Hence the only gage any of us have for them is that they played a close, tough game with Ithaca, who, many of us know isn't all that good, but still is literally an E8 contender who D3.com has as # ****in 20 in their national poll. So If you mention Wick in any type of respect or light one must talk about the Ithaca game.

Ithaca has not been great this season, but I dont think they have opened up the offense yet either.  Against Union, I think they tried to run off tackle 50 times.  No toss, no sweep, no screen, no angles, no reverse, no nothin.  I just think Ithaca is one of those teams that really improves as the season goes on, and that QB might get better.

As for Hartwick, I was just mentioning that if they can beat SJF or Alfred or Utica they can make the playoffs.  As Ithaca has an easy chance to lose to those teams as well.

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 5 (10/5/09)

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	Alfred  ( 9 )	4-0	97	1	vs. Hartwick
2	Delaware Valley	3-1	75	6	vs. FDU-Florham
3	Albright  ( 1 )	4-0	71	9	at Lycoming
4	Ithaca	4-1	62	4	vs. St. John Fisher
5	Kean	3-1	53	NR	vs. Buffalo State
6	Cortland State	3-1	52	5	at Montclair State
7	Rowan	3-1	49	7	vs. Western Connecticut
8	Union	3-1	31	NR	vs. Hobart
9	Wilkes	3-1	25	2	vs. Lebanon Valley
10	RPI	3-1	15	3	Open Date

 

Others Receiving votes:      
Springfield   9
Hartwick   4
Hobart   3
TCNJ   2
St. John Fisher   2



Dropping out: #8 TCNJ, #10 Lebanon Valley


Voting Breakdown
Alfred (1,1,1,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,)
Delaware Valley (3,2,3,4,4,5,3,5,3,3,)
Albright (2,8,2,2,5,1,2,2,6,9,)
Ithaca (8,5,6,7,3,2,7,4,2,4,)
Kean (9,7,4,6,6,3,4,3,4,NR,)
Cortland State (5,3,8,8,7,6,5,7,7,2,)
Rowan (4,4,NR,3,2,7,6,NR,8,5,)
Union (7,10,5,5,NR,8,NR,6,5,NR,)
Wilkes (6,9,NR,9,8,10,8,8,9,7,)
RPI (10,6,10,10,10,NR,NR,NR,10,6,)
Springfield (NR,NR,7,NR,9,9,10,NR,NR,NR,)
Hartwick (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,9,10,NR,10,)
Hobart (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,8,)
TCNJ (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,9,NR,NR,)
St. John Fisher (NR,NR,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,)

Key Regional Games This Week:

#4 Ithaca vs. St. John Fisher
#6 Cortland State @ Montclair State
#1 Alfred vs. Hartwick
#3 Albright @ Lycoming