East Region Fan Poll

[Knightstalker]

I debated about who to drop but in the end I thought that Del Val losing to Iona was worse than Wilkes losing to WPU.  I remember when NJCU then JCSC was losing to St. John Fisher in the early to mid 90's while NJCU would beat up on St. Peters.  But the loss to Iona won't hurt Del Val like the loss to WPU will hurt Wilkes.

I couldn't drop the teams that did not play and while I understand why some would move Alfred into the top ten, they haven't played yet so since they weren't in my preseason top ten, I did not move them in.

Ithaca was my biggest jump, unranked to sixth. 

I think next week things will really start to straighten out when everyone has played a game.

[union89]

I'm the 6th guy in the listing.  I dropped Wilkes from #3 and DelVal from #8 out of the top 10.  Hobart entered at #9 and Widener at #10 for me.  Rowan was a tough one....dropped them from #2 to #5 due to Newport being on a good year pre-seson.  Tough to tell were to rank the LL teams with no games played.  I moved RPI from #5 to #3 due to the previously mentioned losses by Rowan and Wilkes.....Union remained at #6 for me, but will probably move at least a couple of spots unless the Spingfield game is a close loss.


Thanks for organizing this PG!!!!

[pg04]

My pleasure.  I am enjoying seeing how this shakes out, and voting myself. 

I myself dropped Rowan from 3 to 6, and Wilkes out completely.  I also had put UR in 10th in my preseason (whoops!), so they went out.  Kean and Alfred came in 9 and 10 as the newcomers.  Del Val wasn't in mine originally so I had no decision there. 

I'm just disclosing my main moves.  Other pollsters do not have to disclose anything if they don't want to (just making that disclaimer)

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 1 (9/2/07)

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	St. John Fisher ( 8 )	1-0	89	1	@ Buffalo State
2	Springfield ( 1 )	0-0	79	2	@ #7 Union
3	Ithaca	1-0	57	9	vs. King's
4	RPI	0-0	48	7	vs. Endicott
5	Hobart	0-0	46	5	@ Dickinson
6	Cortland State	0-0	43	6	vs. Morrisville State
7	Union	0-0	37	8	vs. #2 Springfield
8	Rowan	0-1	32	4	Idle
9	Alfred	0-0	22	NR	@ Thiel
10	Kean	1-0	20	NR	@ Albright

Other receiving votes: Delaware Valley 13, William Paterson 5, Wilkes 2, Western New England 1, Widener 1

To make the same comparison as someone on the south board.  If you ranked the eastern teams in order of how they appear in the D3football.com, this is what it would look like:

1.  Fisher  (5th)
2.  Springfield (9th)
3.  Rowan (20th)
4.  Ithaca (73 points)
5.  Wilkes (50 points)
6.  Hobart (43 points)
7.  Union (39 points)
8.  Kean (32 points)
9.  Alfred (27 points)
10. Cortland (21 points)

Overall, RPI is placed much higher on our ranking, while Wilkes dropped (while a long way in the top 25) not to far in respect to the other Eastern teams. RPI would be 12th in the Region if just using the D3football poll. 

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 1 (9/2/07) MODIFIED!!!

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	St. John Fisher ( 8 )	1-0	89	1	@ Buffalo State
2	Springfield ( 1 )	0-0	79	2	@ #7 Union
3	Ithaca	1-0	57	9	vs. King's
4	Hobart	0-0	48	5	@ Dickinson
5	RPI	0-0	46	7	vs. Endicott
6	Cortland State	0-0	43	6	vs. Morrisville State
7	Union	0-0	37	8	vs. #2 Springfield
8	Rowan	0-1	32	4	Idle
9	Alfred	0-0	22	NR	@ Thiel
10	Kean	1-0	20	NR	@ Albright

Other receiving votes: Delaware Valley 13, William Paterson 5, Wilkes 2, Western New England 1, Widener 1



Voting distribution by team for the week one poll...

Fisher (1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,-,1)
Springfield (2,1,4,2,2,2,2,3,-,2)
Ithaca (4,5,6,4,5,4,4,2,-,8)
RPI (6,4,8,5,7,3,5,4,-,-)
Hobart (7,3,3,-,4,9,3,5,-,6)
Cortland State (-,7,2,3,3,8,8,9,-,5)
Union (3,8,9,-,8,6,6,8,-,3)
Rowan (9,9,7,10,6,5,7,10,-,4)
Alfred (10,6,-,6,10,7,9,-,-,7)
Kean (8,10,5,7,9,-,-,7,-,-)
Delaware Valley (5,-,-,9,-,-,-,6,-,-)
William Paterson (-,-,-,8,-,-,-,-,-,9)
Wilkes (-,-,10,-,-,-,-,-,-,10)
Western New England (-,-,-,-,-,-,10,-,-,-)
Widener (-,-,-,-,-,10,-,-,-,-)

This modification was due to a pollster putting Hobart in the 3rd and 5th position on accident, when he meant to put RPI in one of the positions.  I did not get a response in time and I incorrectly assumed which position RPI was to go in (3rd).  Instead he wanted them in 5th.  Therefore Hobart and RPI switch in position and number of points. 

Thanks for listening  .  Still getting all the kinks out of this poll thing

[Jonny Utah]

Yea, my fault on that one.  But you had one more mistake in there.  I wanted Union (KY) in there, not Union (NY).  They suck.

[gordonmann]

Looks fantastic, pg.

[pg04]

Yea, my fault on that one.  But you had one more mistake in there.  I wanted Union (KY) in there, not Union (NY).  They suck.

Haha, well there may be no Unions of any sort after this week! 

Looks fantastic, pg.

Thanks Gordon! Appreciate it! 

[pg04]

East Region Fan Poll - Week 1 (9/2/07) MODIFIED!!!

#	School (1st votes)	Record	Pts	Prev.	This Week
1	St. John Fisher ( 8 )	1-0	89	1	@ Buffalo State
2	Springfield ( 1 )	0-0	79	2	@ #7 Union
3	Ithaca	1-0	57	9	vs. King's
4	Hobart	0-0	48	5	@ Dickinson
5	RPI	0-0	46	7	vs. Endicott
6	Cortland State	0-0	43	6	vs. Morrisville State
7	Union	0-0	37	8	vs. #2 Springfield
8	Rowan	0-1	32	4	Idle
9	Alfred	0-0	22	NR	@ Thiel
10	Kean	1-0	20	NR	@ Albright

Other receiving votes: Delaware Valley 13, William Paterson 5, Wilkes 2, Western New England 1, Widener 1



Voting distribution by team for the week one poll...

Fisher (1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,-,1)
Springfield (2,1,4,2,2,2,2,3,-,2)
Ithaca (4,5,6,4,5,4,4,2,-,8)
RPI (6,4,8,5,7,3,5,4,-,-)
Hobart (7,3,3,-,4,9,3,5,-,6)
Cortland State (-,7,2,3,3,8,8,9,-,5)
Union (3,8,9,-,8,6,6,8,-,3)
Rowan (9,9,7,10,6,5,7,10,-,4)
Alfred (10,6,-,6,10,7,9,-,-,7)
Kean (8,10,5,7,9,-,-,7,-,-)
Delaware Valley (5,-,-,9,-,-,-,6,-,-)
William Paterson (-,-,-,8,-,-,-,-,-,9)
Wilkes (-,-,10,-,-,-,-,-,-,10)
Western New England (-,-,-,-,-,-,10,-,-,-)
Widener (-,-,-,-,-,10,-,-,-,-)

This modification was due to a pollster putting Hobart in the 3rd and 5th position on accident, when he meant to put RPI in one of the positions.  I did not get a response in time and I incorrectly assumed which position RPI was to go in (3rd).  Instead he wanted them in 5th.  Therefore Hobart and RPI switch in position and number of points. 

Thanks for listening  .  Still getting all the kinks out of this poll thing

Should be another interesting one this week... Kean got blown away, while Fisher and Ithaca not as impressive on the scoreboard as they would have liked.  Springfield puts away Union with ease and Del Val blows a game vs. Wesley.  Alfred also looked impressive.

As always have picks in before Monday at 8 (and if sooner than that, the better!)

Edit:  And the Hobart loss (As I just read as I try to catch up on everything I missed for the majority of the day..

[pg04]

Oh, and Cortland Winning easily but losing their QB (again)

[pg04]

And other scores of Note:

Montclair State 14 Wilkes 7

Widener 27 North Carolina Wesleyan 17

[AUKaz00]

Conference records for consideration:

E8      8-3
ACFC  5-3
NJAC   5-5
NEFC  10-11
LL       4-7
MAC    4-10

Other conferences that might send a team to East Region Playoffs:
PAC    7-4
CC      9-7

[Jonny Utah]

Still too early, but there were some things I noticed about this weeks poll

1) Should Cortland winning 71-7 mean anything at all?

2) Union loses to one of the best teams in the country while RPI beats their regular cupcake non-league game....does RPI still deserve to be a few notches higher? 

3) Although I dont see them being there at the end of the season, does William Patterson deserve a spot just because of one win?

4) When is a MAC team going to impress me enough to get back in the poll?

['gro]

Still too early, but there were some things I noticed about this weeks poll

1) Should Cortland winning 71-7 mean anything at all?  Mo'ville too young to make a judgement about Cortland.

2) Union loses to one of the best teams in the country while RPI beats their regular cupcake non-league game....does RPI still deserve to be a few notches higher? Hobart will be the test, and since they lost to dickinson RPI will probably stay the same (put cortland at #4, Alfred could move up too)

3) Although I dont see them being there at the end of the season, does William Patterson deserve a spot just because of one win? Wilkes is 0-2 now...

4) When is a MAC team going to impress me enough to get back in the poll? Not yet.

[pg04]

Widener is probably the most impressive of the MAC teams.   But it's debatable whether they should be in or not