East Region Fan Poll

[dlippiel]

Ithaca's big loss to SJF is very surprising to dlip. SJF is just kind of hard to figure out right now. dlip thinks Unions result vs Salisbury may give us some more insight into how good SJF may be. WHo knows maybe they are starting to find their rhythm now??? dlip feels they have a lot of talent and coming into 09 felt they would only have one loss at this point. Who the **** knows? dlip has them at a respectful #6 this week. Maybe a bit high, but time will tell.

[tecmobowler]

I think fisher fans are fooling themselves if they believe to be an elite team this year.  They tried every way possible to keep a horrendous Ithaca effort in the game for the first half on Saturday.

I couldn't help but think during the game how fans on both sides must yearn for the talent that was on the field four or five years back.

[pumkinattack]

I've intimated this before, but the East is down this year.  Admittedly, I don't know jack squat about the MAC or NJAC, but I'll take PBR's word that DVC is legit this year.  I'm still down on the MAC after I watched Hobart pound out Lyco in the first round last year (after growing up on the NY/PA border when Berwick was really good and thinking all PA kids were strong) and the NJAC doesn't look like they have anyone who could beat a top 10-15 team nationally.  This could be a year where the "top" east team takes a Randolph Macon like beating from MUC in the playoffs.  I'd like to see Wesley or another geographically close team come over rather than MUC more to see some different programs, but the east doesn't have anyone ready to step up this year. 

[maxpower]

'Member the discussion in here about whether a loss should just be a loss in the polls? Anyone else notice that Capital lost to MUC by 7 and moved up five places in the top 25?

[union89]

I know nobody is saying it cuz they dont want to be 'that' guy, but I have always been that guy so here goes...Alfred is not the Number 1 team in the east.  For poll purposes fine...they are undefeated and seem to be the 'easy' popular choice.  Fact is...they have never lived up to their billing in the past, so why now as a No. 1 will they?  So far they have taken care of their business but have not been really tested.  I dont know much about Albright, but I say AU would lose 3 outta 5 to Kean, Del Val and Fisher. 4 outta 5 to Rowan.  Union is the only team within striking distance in this poll they could probably handle regularly.  I have always liked and respected AU...love going to Merrill.

When all is said and done in the East though, AU will be 5-7 in most polls.

Pep and Kaz00 can agree that it's too early to anoint the Saxons as King of the East Region. AU is taking care of business, but AU didn't open with Mount Union or travel to southern Maryland for Salisbury Steak...so Oct. 24 at Growney will be the Saxons' next test.

The only thing Pep would contend in your statement, '82, is that AU, if memory serves Pep correctly, never has had "a billing" to live up to. Pep doesn't recall the Saxons ever being favored to sweep through the E8. The Saxons just have a recent past of hanging around and making things interesting...and perhaps that will be the case again in 2009. Who knows? But win or lose, the ride on the bandwagon has been a blast! Stay tuned.....

On Saxon Warriors!

Pep, by their "billing" I wasnt referring to having been favored in the E8, certainly that has never been the case.   You would agree though that a few times in the past half-decade AU has been kinda the team that many have said "this is going to be the year they put it together" and then its always the IC-SJF-3RD TEAM (?) stretch that nips them.

I just dont see why everyone sees this year as any different. I guess maybe many power teams have slipped back to them in the East and SJF has been scheduling giants to start the season so their record doesnt looks all that good 5 games in.

We'll see of course...

82,
If anyone can understand how a team can turn around their fortunes it should be you.  Back when you played for Fisher, the Cardinals couldn't do anything right....look how far they have come.

Cut Alfred some slack....they are a very well deserving #1....regardless of your barbs.

leave it to someone....especially you, to try and make something out of nothing.  There was no barbs at AU....just my opinion that they are not the Beast of the East yet.  

And since you have no idea when I played, you talk out your ass about my team that went 21-19 in my 4 years.

....I bet the competition now is alot better than when you played as well.....you should be proud.

Not really.  Except for the 2 MUC games.  We played RPI, BUFF ST, Brockport and a decent UR team every year.  Its all relative of course.

Am I supposed to care about people's posts to you in private because they are too worried about their 'Image' out in the open?  Hmmm...that seems to reflect some good wholesome character.

Seriously though, what BS?  That I  made the simple statement that I disagree with AU's #1?

I will play along though with this fire you Fisher haters are starting. 

You could make it easy and just say what year you graduated....to be open, I graduated in '89.

[PBR...]

I've intimated this before, but the East is down this year.  Admittedly, I don't know jack squat about the MAC or NJAC, but I'll take PBR's word that DVC is legit this year.  I'm still down on the MAC after I watched Hobart pound out Lyco in the first round last year (after growing up on the NY/PA border when Berwick was really good and thinking all PA kids were strong) and the NJAC doesn't look like they have anyone who could beat a top 10-15 team nationally.  This could be a year where the "top" east team takes a Randolph Macon like beating from MUC in the playoffs.  I'd like to see Wesley or another geographically close team come over rather than MUC more to see some different programs, but the east doesn't have anyone ready to step up this year. 

well the good thing is dvc/albright gets settled on the field the first week of november. now pbr is totally on board that someone can make a case that alfred/dvc/albright should be #1. but in pbr's opinion dvc at this point in time should be ranked ahead of albright for earlier stated reasons. not really sure imho whether dvc or alfred should be #1 in the east w/ albright a close 3rd.

[theoriginalupstate]

Ithaca's big loss to SJF is very surprising to dlip. SJF is just kind of hard to figure out right now. dlip thinks Unions result vs Salisbury may give us some more insight into how good SJF may be. WHo knows maybe they are starting to find their rhythm now??? dlip feels they have a lot of talent and coming into 09 felt they would only have one loss at this point. Who the **** knows? dlip has them at a respectful #6 this week. Maybe a bit high, but time will tell.

I too had them at #6 this week...

[redswarm81]

'Member the discussion in here about whether a loss should just be a loss in the polls? Anyone else notice that Capital lost to MUC by 7 and moved up five places in the top 25?

Yeah, somebody else noticed.

[Saxon73]

Dear DR,

You are truly refreshing to an exhaustingly repetitive intercourse.

I hope you meant interlude...

If not I'm totally lost...

Upstae,

Sorry for the vernacular of previous generations.  I wrote without thinking that educated individuals would understand more than sexual conotations.  Being probably at least a few generations older I just typed what I thought (or learned) years ago.
Intercourse can mean discussion or social dealings between individuals.  I understand as some posters in the past have commented on my "too correct" writings. Sorry for the confusion.

73, I am of previous generations, and I (an engineer, even!) have acquired beaucoup negative karma for commenting on such trite subjects as lack of number and gender agreement in poster's sentences.

Nonetheless, even though I understand the intended meaning of "intercourse," the phrase "refreshing to an exhaustingly repetitive intercourse" makes no sense to me.

redswarm,

Having been an engineer also, I was trained to give short, concise statements or opinions.  As it was getting late in the evening for me I found Dr L's statement short and to the point as opossed to some other repetitive type posts.  Perhaps I was getting a little grumpy myself.

[maxpower]

'Member the discussion in here about whether a loss should just be a loss in the polls? Anyone else notice that Capital lost to MUC by 7 and moved up five places in the top 25?

Yeah, somebody else noticed.

Obviously I meant someone reasonably intelligent..... +k


EDIT: do you prefer + or - K?

[SJFF82]

I know nobody is saying it cuz they dont want to be 'that' guy, but I have always been that guy so here goes...Alfred is not the Number 1 team in the east.  For poll purposes fine...they are undefeated and seem to be the 'easy' popular choice.  Fact is...they have never lived up to their billing in the past, so why now as a No. 1 will they?  So far they have taken care of their business but have not been really tested.  I dont know much about Albright, but I say AU would lose 3 outta 5 to Kean, Del Val and Fisher. 4 outta 5 to Rowan.  Union is the only team within striking distance in this poll they could probably handle regularly.  I have always liked and respected AU...love going to Merrill.

When all is said and done in the East though, AU will be 5-7 in most polls.

Pep and Kaz00 can agree that it's too early to anoint the Saxons as King of the East Region. AU is taking care of business, but AU didn't open with Mount Union or travel to southern Maryland for Salisbury Steak...so Oct. 24 at Growney will be the Saxons' next test.

The only thing Pep would contend in your statement, '82, is that AU, if memory serves Pep correctly, never has had "a billing" to live up to. Pep doesn't recall the Saxons ever being favored to sweep through the E8. The Saxons just have a recent past of hanging around and making things interesting...and perhaps that will be the case again in 2009. Who knows? But win or lose, the ride on the bandwagon has been a blast! Stay tuned.....

On Saxon Warriors!

Pep, by their "billing" I wasnt referring to having been favored in the E8, certainly that has never been the case.   You would agree though that a few times in the past half-decade AU has been kinda the team that many have said "this is going to be the year they put it together" and then its always the IC-SJF-3RD TEAM (?) stretch that nips them.

I just dont see why everyone sees this year as any different. I guess maybe many power teams have slipped back to them in the East and SJF has been scheduling giants to start the season so their record doesnt looks all that good 5 games in.

We'll see of course...

82,
If anyone can understand how a team can turn around their fortunes it should be you.  Back when you played for Fisher, the Cardinals couldn't do anything right....look how far they have come.

Cut Alfred some slack....they are a very well deserving #1....regardless of your barbs.

leave it to someone....especially you, to try and make something out of nothing.  There was no barbs at AU....just my opinion that they are not the Beast of the East yet.  

And since you have no idea when I played, you talk out your ass about my team that went 21-19 in my 4 years.

....I bet the competition now is alot better than when you played as well.....you should be proud.

Not really.  Except for the 2 MUC games.  We played RPI, BUFF ST, Brockport and a decent UR team every year.  Its all relative of course.

Am I supposed to care about people's posts to you in private because they are too worried about their 'Image' out in the open?  Hmmm...that seems to reflect some good wholesome character.

Seriously though, what BS?  That I  made the simple statement that I disagree with AU's #1?

I will play along though with this fire you Fisher haters are starting. 

You could make it easy and just say what year you graduated....to be open, I graduated in '89.

make what easier?  I told you the truth about the record and who we played...you obviously dont believe me?

I played from '92-95.  I forgot to mention we also played a then, very good Catholic team in those years. 

[union89]

Maybe I'm strange....I enjoy knowing when guys played.  I know when every poster in the LLPP graduated, along with a number of E8 guys.......makes it interesting for me as a point of reference.

Sorry if my query got you all self conscious.  Thanks for the reply.

[SJFF82]

Maybe I'm strange....I enjoy knowing when guys played.  I know when every poster in the LLPP graduated, along with a number of E8 guys.......makes it interesting for me as a point of reference.

Sorry if my query got you all self conscious.  Thanks for the reply.

so I made it easier for you to "enjoy" yourself...glad I could help.

[SJFF82]

I think fisher fans are fooling themselves if they believe to be an elite team this year.  They tried every way possible to keep a horrendous Ithaca effort in the game for the first half on Saturday.

I couldn't help but think during the game how fans on both sides must yearn for the talent that was on the field four or five years back.

did a Fisher fan say or imply they were elite this year?

"horrendous Ithaca effort"...so that's why the final was 40-17.  Did the second half count?

[maxpower]

I think fisher fans are fooling themselves if they believe to be an elite team this year.  They tried every way possible to keep a horrendous Ithaca effort in the game for the first half on Saturday.

I couldn't help but think during the game how fans on both sides must yearn for the talent that was on the field four or five years back.

did a Fisher fan say or imply they were elite this year?

"horrendous Ithaca effort"...so that's why the final was 40-17.  Did the second half count?

Are you saying that only very good teams can win blowouts? Have you seen Utica's results this year?