East Region Fan Poll

[AUPepBand]

Pep, +k for your continued use of Saterday, even when it's at an AU player's expense.

Although now that I think about it, I made fun of dumbass IC ballplayers when I was at school (Jose), why would I stop now?

*now a degree-carrying member of the AU Alumni Association! Now that's exiting!

[redswarm81]

Regional rankings came out... ???Why even give any East region team a #1 ranking if they are going to ****ing bring someone East for the ****ing tourney. It is really ****ing stupid and ridiculous that even if an East region team runs the table and goes undefeated they will not get a #1 seed in a tourney that should be set by ****ing regions. This is really starting to piss dlip off if you guys couldn't tell. Well come on over MUC; Alfred, Albright, Del Val, Rowan, and everyone else are playing for # 2 in the East because the #1 seed in the East will not be from the east. WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!

Nobody said it was the East Region bracket any longer, dlippiel. If the top four teams don't include an East team, then so be it. Get better.

You have a point dlip, one I've made a different way.  The Selection Committee is required to select and seed teams based on the Selection Criteria and the Seeding Criteria, which are 99% based on Regional (in-Region) stats.  In most cases, teams being compared for selection or seeding have no non-regional stats, and for those few who do, it's invariably an irrelevant basis for comparison.  (For example, if you're comparing an 8-2 South team to an 8-2 East team, and the South team has a win against a West team, so what?)

But hasn't his complaint been mainly that if there's a legitimate undefeated team in region (e.g. as opposed to last year where all the top teams had a loss) they shouldn't shift MUC over?  Then you get into, is AU or Albright legitimate and that's where you get into the debate.  What's legitimate is both the debate and problem with the system.  We all pretty much believe that AU and Albright aren't a top 5-6 team in the country, but we've accepted this system that's been in place and now it feels like the subjectivity has crept back in to the detriment of us in the East. 

Dlip,

Would you have a problem if MUC was moved in if Curry was the only undefeated team in the East.  Assume the loss wasn't like a road loss in OT to MUC or Wesley or something like that.  Assume it's a loss to like a 7 win, decent but not great in region team.   

I would have a problem with that.  If the NCAA wants the Selection Committee to seed the playoff Regions based on something other than the Regional criteria that make up 99% of the Selection and Seeding criteria, then they ought to put it in writing.  As it is--and apparently it's the same in basketball and baseball--nearly all of the comparative criteria are Regional data, and yet the Selection Committee seeds the teams without regard to Region.

Using Regional criteria is consistent with the NCAA's explicit and noble mission to promote regional competition.  However, Regional criteria provide no justification for seeding teams out of Region, when there are no relevant bases for comparison.

[AUPepBand]

Are we getting a poll this week? Deadline is looming....

[AUKaz00]

Might have to run last week's this week.  Either that or you could put the NCAA Regional Rankings in there.  How's the full-length feature on the fire coming?

[AUPepBand]

Might have to run last week's this week.  Either that or you could put the NCAA Regional Rankings in there.  How's the full-length feature on the fire coming?

Pep assigned that to his student intern....could do a lot with the fire but by now, it's old news. Election results will be a bit more timely.

[pg04]

Might have to run last week's this week.  Either that or you could put the NCAA Regional Rankings in there.  How's the full-length feature on the fire coming?

Pep assigned that to his student intern....could do a lot with the fire but by now, it's old news. Election results will be a bit more timely.

I hope to tonight, but there is one missing again, a different one this week than last so it would be unfair to not give due time again.  

Correction:  Just got it.  Will be up around 8pm tonight. 

[AUPepBand]

Might have to run last week's this week.  Either that or you could put the NCAA Regional Rankings in there.  How's the full-length feature on the fire coming?

Pep assigned that to his student intern....could do a lot with the fire but by now, it's old news. Election results will be a bit more timely.

I hope to tonight, but there is one missing again, a different one this week than last so it would be unfair to not give due time again.  

Correction:  Just got it.  Will be up around 8pm tonight.  

Thanks, pg04...YOU (B)ROCK(port)!  

[pg04]

Week 9 Fan Poll  -- Positions 4-7 shift slightly, all else Steady

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Alfred (7 )	7-0	97	1	at Ithaca
2   Albright ( 1 )	8-0	85	T2	at #2 Delaware Valley
Delaware Valley ( 2 )	7-1	85	T2	vs. #2 Albright
4   Kean	7-1	73	5	at William Paterson
5   Springfield	7-1	47	T6	vs. #10 St. John Fisher
6   Rowan	6-2	46	4	vs #8 Montclair State
7   Lebanon Valley	7-1	45	T6	vs. Lycoming
8   Montclair State	7-1	27	8	at Rowan
9   Union	6-2	21	9	at Merchant Marine
10 St. John Fisher	4-3	14	10	at #5 Springfield

            
Dropped Out:                        
None (Again -- I think we may have decided our best 10 teams...orrrrrrrr not...)   

Also Receiving votes:              
Susquehanna 7
Curry 2
TCNJ 1    
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Alfred (1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,)
Albright (2,4,2,2,2,4,2,1,3,3,)
Delaware Valley (4,2,3,3,3,1,3,3,1,2,)
Kean (3,3,4,4,4,3,4,4,4,4,)
Springfield (6,8,5,5,5,6,7,10,5,6,)
Rowan (5,6,7,7,7,5,8,6,8,5,)
Lebanon Valley (8,5,6,6,6,8,5,7,6,8,)
Montclair State (10,9,9,9,8,7,6,5,9,NR,)
Union (7,10,8,8,9,NR,NR,9,7,9,)
St. John Fisher (9,NR,10,10,10,10,NR,8,10,7,)
Susquehanna (NR,7,NR,NR,NR,9,10,NR,NR,NR,)
Curry (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,9,NR,NR,NR,)
TCNJ (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,)


Key Matchups (And, I believe this is by far the most intreguing week in the East this year):

#2 Albright at #2 Delaware Valley (The battle of the 2's!)
#5 Springfield vs. #10 St. John Fisher (Last game for Springfield -- If they win, Pool C?)
#6 Rowan vs. #8 Montclair State
#1 Alfred at Ithaca (Alfred clinches NCAA Berth with victory)

I'm fairly pumped up about this weekend!!!

[dlippiel]

+k pg.04 you do a great job with the poll.

[pg04]

+k pg.04 you do a great job with the poll.

Thanks dlip, +K right back at ya.  Thanks for participating.  Without the 9 other participants, there would be no poll! 

[union89]

Great poll question this week.

[pg04]

Great poll question this week.

Yeah, I thought it would be interesting to see who people think can win a tough road game, as in the playoffs most teams will have to try to do. 

[labart96]

I for one can't wait to see how the Albright-DVC game pans out.  I will either be vindicated (or humiliated) for ranking Albright higher than DVC.

That said I see Alfred beating IC, SJFC beating SC and Rowan beating Montclair.

Time will tell.  Great slate of games.

[PBR...]

I for one can't wait to see how the Albright-DVC game pans out.  I will either be vindicated (or humiliated) for ranking Albright higher than DVC.

That said I see Alfred beating IC, SJFC beating SC and Rowan beating Montclair.

Time will tell.  Great slate of games.

here is hoping isgro plays at qb but at least we found out we have a good backup and qb for next year...

[Doid23]

Good poll, solid throughout.